Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I have a question about cars.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:14 PM
Original message
I have a question about cars.
Cars have drastically changed over the years. Front wheel drive, the most elaborate sound systems. Power everything.

But why is it that cars today still use the same essentially basic internal combustion engine from the days of Henry Ford and the Model T?

Perhaps a stupid question, but I just don't understand why automobile technology, as far as the engine is concerned, really hasn't changed all that much.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. Because they use lots of oil...
and that is good for corporations.

That will have to change soon, though...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. They Can Be More Efficient Today
A Model T got around 30 MPG. I had a Ford Festiva that was much more powerful than a Model T, much more comfortable, and it got 43 to 45 MPG.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
3. It's all about the oil and big Corps.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
4. the reason you don't understand is because....
you're gay.

:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. THAT's it!
I KNEW there was a good reason. :-)

:hi:

T
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:32 PM
Response to Original message
6. The internal combustion engine
is an efficient method of creating mechanical power. Even hydrogen engines are/will be internal combustion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
7. There have been many advancements in engines over the years.
Variable valve timing, multiple displacements systems, common rail and direct injection, low sulfur diesel, turbos, superchargers. Engines today are a heck of a lot more advanced than they were just a mere 10 years ago.

To give you an example of how engines have advanced over the years, in the 30's, more advanced engines put out about 1/2 horsepower per cubic inch of displacement, in the 60s the goal for auto manufacturers was 1 horsepower per cubic inch. Now, in advanced engines such as the one found in the Honda S2000, engines are putting out 2 horsepower per cubic inch of displacement. Basically, this allows for a sports car that gets economy car fuel economy. I'd say engines are advancing quite a bit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. And let's not forget the rotary
Although they digest more oil as a part of the combustion function, Wankel, or rotary, engines represent a different way of creating and utilizing combustive energy with fewer moving parts than the IC engine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
9. I don't think it's true to say:
...."automobile technology, as far as the engine is concerned, really hasn't changed all that much."


I guess it's just perspective. Even the "Air car" being developed in France has, in some ways, more in common with the first internal combustion engines than does the rotary engine mentioned by someone here.

The rotary, while wildly different and unique in mechanical/design/function terms, still uses an explosion of fuel to push an object into rotary motion. But no pistons. (Extremely powerful, but I don't think they've ever found a way to get good gas mileage out of it. Sure wish someone would.)

The "air car" idea is using explosive expansion of air to push pistons in order to produce rotary motion. Who knows, but I think this may change everything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Medium Baby Jesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
10. I don't know where you are
but in Florida we all drive Segways
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 01:34 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC