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Thu Jan-06-05 09:40 AM
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Why Do Supposedly Educated People Use The Word Anxious When They Mean The |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 09:44 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Word Eager?
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:42 AM
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1. I don't know. Why do supposedly educated people use the word wnen |
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when they mean the word when? :evilgrin:
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:42 AM
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2. Because anxious is a synonym for the word eager? |
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From the M-W Online dictionary:
Main Entry: anx·ious Pronunciation: 'a(k)-sh&s Function: adjective Etymology: Latin anxius; akin to Latin angere to strangle, distress -- more at ANGER 1 : characterized by extreme uneasiness of mind or brooding fear about some contingency : WORRIED 2 : characterized by, resulting from, or causing anxiety : WORRYING 3 : ardently or earnestly wishing synonym see EAGER
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:46 AM
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4. There Is A Difference... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 09:47 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Eager denotes a positive form of excitement...
I am eager to watch the NFL playoffs...
Anxious denotes a negative form of excitement...
I am anxious about Bush*'s second term...
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:01 AM
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9. I have heard and read "anxious" used positively for many of my short years |
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Being as I'm only 30, perhaps I may not have been on this earth as long as you, but I've heard anxious used to denote positive excitement since I could understand the concept of positive/negative excitement. M-W's 3rd entry would seem to support my position... It's a colloquialism, and since the English language is an evolving organism... I dunno, it doesn't stress me much. I don't use it much myself. But I don't fret about it. What about "i'm dying to see your new baby"?
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:00 AM
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18. If my team was playing in the playoffs , I would be awaiting anxiously |
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:46 AM
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3. because they are only "supposedly educated?" |
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The overuse of "numerous" instead of "many" is another. But during the 2nd reign I expect both to be relaced by multiferous.
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:53 AM
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5. Why do supposedly educated people capitalize every word in a sentence |
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when it is neither a title of something nor a headline?
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:56 AM
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6. Because It's The Headline... |
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and what's in this box is the rest of the story...
and some times I am too lazy to hit the cap key and some times I feel like capitalizing everything...
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Thu Jan-06-05 09:58 AM
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7. that is one of the great mysteries of life |
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you hear that on TV too, including the news.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:01 AM
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8. I'm Not Saying My English Is Perfect... |
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but anxious is akin to being nervous not eager....
I stopped using the word forte because I refuse to pronounce it wrong and if I pronounce it right people will think I'm pronouncing it wrong...
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:09 AM
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12. Anxious is akin to anxiety. |
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:43 AM
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16. As long as you're not using it in the musical sense |
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you can pronounce it however you want and it will be correct. Well, you can't pronounce it like "dachsund," I suppose, but either "fort" or "fortay" is considered standard these days, and neither prnunciation is etymologically "pure."
I know a few people who still like to say "fort," and I never hold it against them :) (I use either, depending on my mood.)
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:06 AM
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10. Let's ponder that one only after |
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we get the English-speaking world on the same page on apostrophe usage.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:09 AM
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11. -And the spelling of the word 'definitely.' |
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:13 AM
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13. And after we eliminate the use of quotation marks for emphasis |
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:36 AM
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15. Yeah, everyone who's not a looser know's that's what the tilde "~" is for |
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:14 PM
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23. the quotation marks is meant to denote irony... |
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like bush* is a "good" president...
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:32 AM
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14. It denotes both positive and negative expectations |
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the primary definition is considered negative (nervous, etc.), but it is also standard as a synonym of eager. According to my office dictionary (Webster's II) the 2nd definition is "eagerly or earnestly desirous."
Aside from those specifics, I always think of anxious as a slight modification of eager. Eager to me seems without reserve, whereas anxious allows for the possibility of negative results. I'm eager to watch the NFL playoffs, but I'm also anxious, because I think the Broncos have a great shot at knocking off the Colts.
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Thu Jan-06-05 10:45 AM
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17. Are These The Same Folks Who Use "Hopefully"... As In... |
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"Hopefully we will have good weather for the picnic."
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:15 AM
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19. That is a perfectly acceptable use of the word hopefully |
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It is a sentence adverb, just like "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" or "thankfully, the Trojans pulled some of their starters in the fourth quarter so the Sooners wouldn't lose by 50."
The disapproval of "hopefully" is a cause celebre among conservative linguists, but it is a useful expression and there is nothing wrong with it from a practical sense (it is usually not ambiguous) or from a grammatical sense (no other sentence adverb is greeted with such derision).
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:27 AM
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Hey! I'm a conservative liguist with a cause! :eyes:
As long as the meaning is conveyed, there's no need for pesky grammar rules, eh? Language is a living thing that changes over time... yeah.
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Thu Jan-06-05 11:47 AM
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21. well, I didn't mean you were a conservative linguist |
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:hi:
but "hopefully" doesn't violate any grammar rules, and yes, theoretically, (another sentence adverb ;)), language does change over time, to the chagrin of some. And among those who are linguistically conservative, hopefully was seen as objectionable when it first came into widespread use in the 50s and 60s. (I think it's a word that actually has a pretty interesting history, but most people don't get off on the history of words :))
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:02 PM
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abnegation is the most pretentious possible way of saying self denial, yet all the writers who use it do so incorrectly. Why use a big word that you don't even know the meaning of? Especially when most people don't know the meaning of it.
Someone who really knows what the word means will look at you like you're an idiot, and someone who doesn't know what it means will look it up and then look at you like you're an idiot.
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