Irish group

[JohnKleeb]

The Irish Affairs Group exists as a place for people to discuss the latest and oldest in all things Irish. Be it soccer, folklore, beer, or politics, our group will discuss it as only a person with any or all Irish in them can. Everyone is Irish in this group, as long as you don't diss the Isle of Green
-Mission Statement of the Irish Group.

[DaveinMD]

1. I'm all for it

as everyone can tell

[gfr4656]

2. im in

100% baby

[MercutioATC]

4. Hey, I'm 1/4 Irish. I'm in.

[Goathead]

17. I'm 1/4 Irish too!

My grandmother on my father's side was born in Donegal. That means I can get Irish citizenship!

[Donkeyboy75]

65. I love the Donegal accent.

One of the most beautiful accents on the entire planet.

[Tweed]

26. Welcome to the DU! Another Chicago Irish Democrat here!

You came just in time to post on the Irish Affairs Group. Now be sure to check out the Illinois Forum. We have some great discussions going on. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=150 So glad to have you. The more Chicago Irish Democrats we have here, the better. You wouldn't perhaps be in college too, would you?

[gfr4656]

39. as a matter of fact

i am returning to the academia after a couple of years off.
south sider

[Tweed]

44. I sent you an E-mail because I wasn't sure if you wanted

the whole world knowing where you were planning on going to school. Your private message on DU are activated yet because of your post count. I'm trying to build up the Chicago College Democrats and could use all the help I can get.

[gfr4656]

55. i'll check it if i can

i'll be posting more

[Maeve]

74. The term is "Irish from County Cook"

As long as the group doesn't become a fight over NI/6 Counties, I'd be for it.

[Tweed]

92. Thanks for the tip!

I love it!

[PartyPooper]

3. I want a Scottish Group!

Anyone else in for it?

:D

:hi:

[JohnKleeb]

7. I am not Scottish

you can start yer own though.

[Tweed]

5. We need a mission statement, do you want to use mine?

[JohnKleeb]

6. sure

[Tweed]

8. Edit the first post and put this in there then

The Irish Affairs Group exists as a place for people to discuss the latest and oldest in all things Irish. Be it soccer, folklore, beer, or politics, our group will discuss it as only a person with any or all Irish in them can. Everyone is Irish in this group, as long as you don't diss the Isle of Green

Thanks Kleeb!

[JohnKleeb]

9. done :) nice statement btw

[XanaDUer]

10. I barely come onto DU much anymore

but when I did I would be happy to pop in that forum.

[JohnKleeb]

12. yeah thatd be nice

[IronLionZion]

11. I'd support it

but I'm only Irish in spirit. and I love Irish spirits!

[JohnKleeb]

13. Hey dude I am only a quarter

and yeah you can be honorary. I hope the Russians will consider me honorary after all my great grandfathers worked on their big ass railroad.

[DaveinMD]

18. I'm not Irish either

but my wife is and we're having an Irish/Jewish baby.

[JohnKleeb]

20. thats nice

congrads on the kid. I read somewhere that Irish Catholic Democrats and Jewish Democrats were among the most liberal white ethnics. Certainly makes sense.

[DaveinMD]

27. my wife isn't liberal

she's socialist.:-)

[JohnKleeb]

31. even cooler

[DaveinMD]

28. my wife isn't liberal

she's socialist.:-)

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

14. sure

I'm only a quarter Irish, a quarter Scottish but I'm half Italian/Sicilian

but hey, I love Irish things! Count me in, yo.

[JohnKleeb]

16. You know that I am too.

a quarter that is, you know what part of the island the Irish came from? I found out for me it was Galway.

[Longgrain]

15. I'm part Irish

so you can add my name to your list...

[JohnKleeb]

19. So uhh what part of Ireland y'all?

is your family originally from. I found out that we are from Galway, :shrug: arent they a many Black Irish, that wouldnt surprise me because my Irish relatives arent pale at all.

[Longgrain]

22. County Cooke

From what I've heard... grandmother's native name was Moorse...

[JohnKleeb]

24. my grandmother is my link, her last name was Keown

I am planning to incorporate that somehow in to one of my kids.

[Longgrain]

34. Same here...

My grandmother's on my mothers side...

For some reason, I'm the only one in my family with red streaks in my hair and a fair Irish complexion...



Here's a Guinness for all fellow Irish...

[JohnKleeb]

36. Its actually my dad's mother

She's still with us thank god, no one to carry the name though, since her brother was a priest.

[gfr4656]

25. mayo

the spanish armada made a pit stop in southern ireland i think. thats where you get the dark hair

[JohnKleeb]

29. So I could have Spanish blood eh

Freaky but yes I got dark hair if you consider my ethnic bloodline.

[KT2000]

40. Spain sent troops

to help Ireland fight against England and some stayed. Don't know what year that was though.
Ever see the movie "The Secret of Roan Inish?" In that movie they refer to the darks.

[JohnKleeb]

41. Yeah thats right

but I thought most traditional Celts were actually dark haired anyhow. I dont know, I only know my Irish linege to my great grandfather.

[gfr4656]

42. the celts

its my understanding that the celts were basically misplaced vikings. so to speak. blond/red hair. fair skin. adapted to the environment along come the spanish, with dark hair and such. mix that with irish hospitality and you get spanish eyes(u2 song).

[JohnKleeb]

43. hah so you think I could be originally descended from spaniards?

My dad's mom is the Irish link in our family, and she was as a young woman, a dark haired one as were her sisters, and parents i think, I dont know what my great uncle was though.

[gfr4656]

45. a healthy mix

as i posted earlier a lot of the mixed heritage people are more likeley than not to have irish in there. im no expert but i think a lot of people have a lot more in common than they think.

[JohnKleeb]

46. I am only 25% Irish on paper

the other being 25% German, 25% Slovak, and 25% Slovene.

[gfr4656]

47. nobody's perfect

just kidding
by the way, i'm new to discussion boards(obviously), what does n/t mean. i figured out lol & rotflmao but not n/t.

[JohnKleeb]

48. no text

I like being multi ethnic but to be honest, I would get rid of the German before anything, I would rather have an Irish or a Slavic last name. Hah yeah no one is perfect, my younger brother has a very Irish sounding name, I was just named after my grandfathers.

[gfr4656]

49. as i was before me

be proud of your name no matter what it is.(as long as it doesn't end in bush)

[JohnKleeb]

50. I know, it just means glue in German heh

[gfr4656]

51. glue?

by the way, you know pockets the sandwich place, in the window it says calzones, sandwiches, pizza, or something like that. in spanish calzones means underwear.

[JohnKleeb]

52. yeah I know calzones

hah thats funny, and I thought spanish and italian were almost identical. Yeah my last name is German for glue practically.

[gfr4656]

53. hah!

my last name means "the rambunctious ones". anyway, good luck digging out of the snow if you haven't already.

[JohnKleeb]

54. I havent even had my first fall here in Virginia

thats pathetic.

[Bridget Burke]

62. It's a long story & most of what we've been told may be wrong.

Apparently the new edition is finally ready: "The Atlantean Irish: Ireland's Oriental & Maritime Heritage." An earlier edition went out of print & costs far too much on Alibris.

Irish identity is best understood from a maritime perspective. For eight millennia the island has been a haven for explorers, settlers, colonists, navigators, pirates and traders, absorbing goods and peoples from all points of the compass. The reduction of the islanders to the exclusive category 'Celtic' has persisted for three hundred years, and is here rejected as impossibly narrow. No classical author ever described Ireland's inhabitants as 'Celts', and neither did the Irish so describe themselves until recent times. The islanders' sea-girt culture has been crucially shaped by Middle Eastern as well as by European civilizations, by an Islamic heritage as well as a Christian one. The Irish language itself has antique roots extended over thousands of years' trading up and down the Atlantic seaways.

www.lilliputpress.ie/listbook.html?isbn=1%2084351%20024%203

I'll be sending my dollars across the Atlantic to get a copy.

[Donailin]

97. Another informative book

would be "The Celts" by Gerhard Herm -- intensely cerebral, written sort of like "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" -- not a casual read.

I much prefer to keep it all a mystery and stick to contemporary authors like Frank Mc Court.

[Donkeyboy75]

68. I don't think anyone knows.

Some historians will tell you that a dark (possibly Mediterranean) race was here after the Stone Age but before the Picts and Celts.

Anyhow, I support the group. I've no Irish heritage, but I'm living here in the true capital of Ireland. ;)

[Tweed]

66. Does that mean that you support the group?

[njdemocrat106]

61. 1/2 Irish here...

The family's originally from County Cork, right next to my favorite county, County Kerry! (for obvious reasons :) )

[Donailin]

95. Black Irish, here so I'm told.

Don't know the county, only the name of my ancestors; Freel. O'Freel according to ancestry.com.

But you know you're Irish if you have a priest in the family. My great uncle is an ordained Catholic missionary, but he's like 85, retired.

[gfr4656]

21. being irish

have any of you noticed that almost anyone that is of mixed heritage, irish is always in the mix.
btw jimi hendrix and bob marley were part irish. so im told.

[JohnKleeb]

23. yeah sorta

hmmm I read that Marley's father was a British Marine Officer but hey he mighta been Irish.

[democracyindanger]

30. My birthday is on St. Patrick's Day

I'm not Irish, but I demand special dispensation, at least once a year.

[JohnKleeb]

32. you can still join up ya know

I am more Eastern European than I am Irish.

[democracyindanger]

35. Then count me in, boyo!

[Tweed]

38. As the mission statement says

Any or all Irish are welcome!

[HEyHEY]

33. hell ya!

[Tweed]

37. Do you know that Canada could have been New Ireland?

Do you know that story?

[HEyHEY]

69. I took Canadian History in College - never heard that one.

Do tell

[corksean]

56. I'm a 100% proof hairy arsed Paddy living just outside Dublin

Always a pleasure to see so many of the diaspora remembering and celebrating their roots. If, as a local, I can help with anything please feel free.

"Mo sheacht míle grá thú"

Impress your friends with some Irish phrases:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/fun/gaelic.html

[obreaslan]

57. I'm in.....

I'll bring the chips. :hi:

[Tweed]

58. Thank you!

[greatauntoftriplets]

59. I'm in....

n/t

[Squatch]

60. Geeze, can you put down the booze long enough to organize one?

:evilgrin:

[Tweed]

63. Oh yeah!

Well can you.... um... back to my drink.

[name not needed]

64. Hell yes I'm in.

[Sanity Claws]

67. Me too

I'm Irish and would love to participate when the group gets going

[Longgrain]

70. Where's Kleeb?

Did you ever get this thing going :hi: ?

[JohnKleeb]

71. one of y'all is gonna have to email admin for this

I am on right only because my friend who I had over is asleep.

[Tweed]

72. I posted something in the ATA Forum

They haven't gotten back to me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=120x27770

[JohnKleeb]

73. awesome

Thanks, I havent been on today because Ive been asleep or out.

[Wat_Tyler]

75. I'll put my name in if it helps get the numbers up.

Nobody minds if I put my shrine to Ian Paisley in my sig-line, do you? The man's such a tremendous hero of mine. Oh, yes. He's just the greatest. No - in fact he's better than that - better than Jesus in fact, you know things would just be so much better if it were The Father, The Ian and the Holy Ghost, don't ya think? At the very least, the man's definitely a saint. Oh yes - no doubt about that. He's definitely made a great contribution to Ireland, what with his reasonable demeanor and thoughtful, conciliatory speeches.

[JohnKleeb]

76. If ya do that, I shmack ya

I know youre kidding.

[greatauntoftriplets]

77. Ian Paisley????

:spank:

[Wat_Tyler]

80. We really need that sarcasm smiley, don't we? ;-)

[greatauntoftriplets]

82. Coming from you.....

I knew it was sarcasm.

:D

But since I am of Irish ancestry (County Mayo...the wild west), I had to express my feelings on that "man of God".

[Wat_Tyler]

85. Yeah - I knew you knew - I just didn't want anyone else thinking I loved

that strange little man. I have a grandmother from each side of the border - one from Belfast, one from Dublin.

[greatauntoftriplets]

91. Then you have more Irish ancestry than I probably.

Can't wait for the group to get started.

[JohnKleeb]

83. of course I knew you were kidding

Its just I hate Paisley :).

[Wat_Tyler]

86. I know you knew I knew you knew.

Are there any sane people who do not hate Paisley?

[JohnKleeb]

88. I dunno but there are some here who defend the British way

of handling things in Northern Ireland, that doesnt mean they like Paisley of course.

[Wat_Tyler]

89. As someone from a Scottish Nationalist family, with Irish Nationalist

heritage, somehow I can't bring myself to defend that viewpoint, y'know? ;-)

[ZombieNixon]

78. Taim nialas san céad Éireannach (I'm 0% Irish)

but I speak Gaelic and love all thing Irish. I'm all for it!
Tiocfaidh ár la (err, well, "bhúr la")!

[JohnKleeb]

79. Damn how did ya learn it?

BTW Tweed got a response to his ATA thread, we should have it soon y'all. Could someone donate for gfr4656 since you have to be starred I think to post in these groups, I am a poor HS student, I would love to help out but I can't.

[ZombieNixon]

84. I started out by reading the inserts to a couple of Irish CDs mom bought

I probably learned about two words from that. I'm the world biggest language nerd, and I find Celtic languages fascinating, so I combed the web until I found enough material to piece together lessons for myself. Check out http://www.englishirishdictionary.com for lists of words. Grammar is a horse of a different color.

[JohnKleeb]

87. Impressive

Language interests me but I suck at it, Ive been trying to learn Slovene for a couple of years, Slovenia is where my mom's dad is originally from, and he and my grandma bought me a dictionary, its hard though. Ive heard Gaelic music before, its really pretty.

[ZombieNixon]

90. Gaelic's pretty difficult, too.

It has a lot of unusual constructions of idioms. Also, spelling's a bitch. Who'd of known that "bhf" is pronounced like "w"? It's one of the prettiest languages I've ever heard. I'm listening to Irish radio on-line right now, in fact.

[Swede]

81. Here is bit of my clane.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2380028http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2380028http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2380028

[ikojo]

93. If this Irish group gets off the ground....it

should be one of the more active groups....I know Irish folk like to talk and tell stories.

[Donailin]

94. I'm in

Half irish, here. "Donailin" is gaelic for Danielle, my name. Nice to meet you all. Love all things Celtic, especially music and dance. Used to Ceili often, but now too busy to make it on the designated nights here in the DC area. Luckily, a plethora of Irish talent comes through this area year round, however, we haven't had an Irish festival since 2002.

May I suggest some Lunasa to go with that Guinness??

[CBHagman]

96. I'm in.

Great-Great-Grandpa landed in NYC in 1864. I've got copies of his naturalization papers but am not 100 percent sure of which county he came from (possibly Mayo). Our other Irish relatives may be from Mayo and some possibly also from the North, given the surnames.

I'm eager to discuss Irish music, prose, poetry, and genealogy, to say nothing of history and current events.

[RogueTrooper]

98. I'll put my name forward for this

I may be a Brit but I am a Brit who currently lives in Dublin.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

99. Count me in as well.

My husband was born and raised in Co. Down and I'm 75% Irish. My maternal grandfather was born and raised in England, but he was the only "outsider" in the family.

My husband and I own the house he was born and raised in Co. Down. We have fantastic views of the Mourne Mountains from our sitting room and bedroom windows.

UP DOWN!!!

[Longgrain]

100. Too all who just joined...

Approval for the Irish Affairs Group is currently pending in the ATA forum...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=120x27770

There's just a little concern about certain sensitive political issues that might arise.

Other than that, it looks like the Irish Group is a sure thing...:thumbsup:

[Donailin]

101. When you say. .

"There's just a little concern about certain sensitive political issues that might arise."

You mean those Northern Ireland Presbyterians with the standing up hair? Aye, they're troublemakers, that lot, and they're all doomed. .

[PittPoliSci]

102. i like it. good idea.

[catzies]

103. Half Irish. Both maternal grandparents were Irish, one of them born there

Wow, so I just learned you can apply for Irish citizenship by descent. Cool.