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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:00 PM
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L2E: Liberals can't be real Christians...PLEEEAZE help respond!
This is the podunk town I live in. And yes, this person IS serious. This newspaper usually prints anything in the L2E page, even from out-of-towners, so if anybody wants to email something in, have at it, they'll likely print it! editor@ridgecrestca.com

(BTW--the "Mr. or Mrs. or whatever Johnson" bit is due to the original author only having initials accompanying his or her last name.)

http://www.ridgecrestca.com/articles/2005/01/05/opinion_-_editorial/letter_to_the_editor/lte02.txt

"Liberals can't be real Christians because Jesus was not a liberal"

Editor:

I couldn't agree more with Maryann Butterfield. This Mr. or Mrs. or whatever Johnson sounds Christian, but is definitely a Liberal, so he or whatever can't be a real Christian - Jesus was not Liberal - he was good.

Only hateful liberals would complain about Fox news -the only news outlet that combats the lies spread by the other news networks.

Liberals also complain about Jerry Springer and Maury Povich, but both of these men have addressed the bad effects of mixed relationships and outside religion, even if Liberals encourage such things.

Mrs. Butterfield is absolutely right - now is the time we rid ourselves of heathen signs and symbols on churches or temples or whatever they call them.

This country was founded by Christians and our country and our Government should show its roots with pride! If people can't see the writing on the wall they had better move out of the way- it is high time we embrace our Christian heritage and proclaim it to all.

There is plenty of room for people who aren't good Christians in the rest of the world.

Billie Miller

Ridgecrest
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:02 PM
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1. Liberals are the only true Christians
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:04 PM by antiwarwarrior
This coming from an agnostic, too.

EDIT: I guess I should elaborate. Jesus probably wouldn't support the right-wing corporate agenda. He also definitely would be against war, and there's a very very good chance that he would support universal health care as well. So, no, Jesus would not be a Republican.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:57 PM
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25. Jesus practiced universal health care!
He healed whoever came to Him, and never once asked them what their insurance plan was.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:03 PM
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2. Why bother to respond?
These nutjobs can't be persuaded, and there's no point in dignifying this insane crap with the effort of a response.
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:09 PM
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8. I totally agree...
that they can't be persuaded. But I like reading debates in our local rag paper on this sort of thing. Quite masochistic, I know, but it keeps me certain that I'm on the correct side of this and fighting the good fight.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:22 PM
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30. But pissing off freepers is worth it alone
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:25 PM
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you have to respond
Every time we let this crap go unanswered, it festers more and builds a little bit more. The RW says this stuff so much that it starts to sink into the public consciousness.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:25 PM
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31. you have to respond
Every time we let this crap go unanswered, it festers more and builds a little bit more. The RW says this stuff so much that it starts to sink into the public consciousness.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:57 PM
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33. If their argument made sense it would be worth responding to
but I can't really make out much of an argument in that letter, in the sense that there aren't contentions that lead to a conclusion. The simple response of "sure they can" provides as much evidence in counter.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:29 PM
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42. Yes, but
the argument that Sudan tried to turn bin Laden over to Clinton 3 times didn't make sense either, and it has been debunked a million and 1 times... but, I bet a good 50-60% of the people out there believe it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:03 PM
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3. Ahhhh Billie Miller is not only a religous bigot
She's a racial bigot! "both of these men have addressed the bad effects of mixed relationships"

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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:06 PM
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6. Yeah, I caught that, too.
Funny, I guess she doesn't realize that Springer was the DEMOCRATIC mayor of Cincy!

Sad.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:27 PM
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27. But it's in the BIBLE!
"Thou shalt not be unevenly yoked" or some such drivel that's supposed to mean White Women for White Men and well, everyone else for everyone else...

Wanna hear what a Xian Indentity guy told me about where "people of colour" came from? It's pretty sickening...
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:56 PM
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38. Did they cite Mark of Cain or some shit?
Yeah I've heard that argument used also for why Xians shouldn't marry non-xians...

But then again, I've also had that verse cited by a Christian Leftie as a reason why both parents should work...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:15 PM
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43. Yep, Mark of Cain.
Pretty sickening.
And yes, I too have heard it used on the topic of intra-faith marriages, too.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:04 PM
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4. Billie Miller should take a good long look at The Beatitudes
:eyes:

Jesus is talking about upending the social order. Sounds like a socialist to me! :D
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:05 PM
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5. With your permission, can I post this in the Liberal Religious group?
Many folks there can help.
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:07 PM
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7. Please post it where you like...
...but a link please?? I'd like to voyeur in on the discussion... ;-)
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:15 PM
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12. Here's a link
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:18 PM
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17. Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it. n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:11 PM
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9. Here is an entire website to help you counter that argument!!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:14 PM by BrklynLiberal
http://liberalslikechrist.org/index.htm

There is also the Sojourners www.sojo.org

Does she know what Jesus really looked like?
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:15 PM
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11. Thanks!
Bookmarked! There's a lot there. Gotta pull up a chair and a beer! ;-)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:14 PM
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10. Blessed are the peacemakers
Bush told lies to start a war.
So the questions is, who do you worship? Satan, the Father of all lies, or Jesus the Prince of Peace? That is what they are called in the Bible. It's fairly obvious who Bush is following.

Jesus told us to love or neighbor and our enemy. He didn't say to love your neighbor unless your neighbor was gay or non-Christian, in which case you should shun them or dislike them. That's the Republican way.

Jesus told us to care for the poor. Bush has cut taxes for the wealthy and at the same time cut food stamps, housing assistance and student financial aid. That isn't Christian.

Jesus criticized the religious and governmental leaders of his day who he said were hypocrites. He was very critical of those who made a big public show of how holy they were in order to gain favor with the public. Bush looks like the modern equivalent of those scribes and pharisees that Jesus criticized.

That seems pretty clear to me. Jesse Jackson had a good column about this recently that I'll look for.
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:17 PM
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14. GREAT! Looks like you should send that in!
Cut-paste-email! ;-)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:18 PM
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16. Since I'm not from the area
They probably won't publish it, but feel free to plagiarize.
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UncleVinny Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:01 PM
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34. Bush distorts the Bible
Most conservatives don't know what the Bible says, nor do they support the teachings of Jesus.

See this from http://www.sorryworld4bush.com

Bush Bible Bloopers

Isaiah 2:4
Original: "And they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, and never again will they learn war."

Bush edit: “And they shall hammer their swords into ‘bunker-buster’ nuclear weapons, and never will they learn peace again.”

Matthew 22:39
Original: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Bush edit: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself, except if they are in the NAACP, an environmentalist, or live in a red state.”

Matthew 5:44
Original: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Bush edit: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, and if they don’t come around, invade their country, kill their people, and take over their oil fields.”

Matthew 5:39
Original: “Do not resist him who is evil. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Bush edit: “Do not resist him who is evil. Instead recruit young, impressionable patriots, and let them do the fighting.”

1 John 4:7
Original: “Let us love one another, for love is from God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God."

Bush edit: “Let us love one another, for love is from God, unless it’s gay love, which is from Satan.”

Matthew 5:5
Original: “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth."

Bush edit: “Blessed are the energy corporations, as they shall inherit the earth, starting with the Alaska wilderness preserves.”

Proverbs 22:7
Original: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower becomes the lenders’ slave."

Bush edit: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower becomes the lenders’ slave. But with any luck, you can pass on massive budget deficits to the next generation.”
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:17 PM
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13. Here's a Jesse Jackson column that touches on that subject
He has said a lot about this elsewhere as well. This one is pretty good.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/jesse/cst-edt-jesse21.html
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:17 PM
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15. "Then the King will say to those on His right...
'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'

"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'"

-- Matthew Ch. 25
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:28 PM
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18. maybe someone should tell her that
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:35 PM by EC
Jerry Springer is a flamin liberal....I think Maury is too...

edit: what's really funny is if there were a second coming, the Republicans would call him lazy...and out of touch...
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:34 PM
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19. Last I checked, Maury was a Bush Supporter.
End of Line.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:35 PM
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20. What a freakin' nut. Of course, is FOX countering CNN & MSNBC's lies?
LOL

How is Jesus NOT a liberal? He had long hair. Never showered. No job. Helped people in need. Didn't stand up for himself when wrongfully jailed. Ditto for when he was executed. Speaking of that, he didn't use the Cross to beat his jailers to death and then go find the real killers...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:38 PM
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21. OH MY GOD
OUR SECRET HATRED OF MAURY POVICH IS NOW KNOWN TO THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!

REPENT LIBERALS REPENT!!!

By the way, she can kiss my liberal Christian ASS.

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:40 PM
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22. Oh and another thing
if you are thinking of writing an LTTE as a response, how's this for concise and to the point:

Billie Miller, in her letter of January 7, claims that liberals cannot possibly be Christians. I have one question: what does it say about HER spirituality that she would question the spirituality of others?

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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:44 PM
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23. Sure, Dying for All Mankind was a VERY Conservative Act...
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:59 PM by dubyadubya3
:eyes: Puhleeeeeease.... No conservative would EVER put themselves through the sheer agony that JC experienced for the redemption of mankind.

A conservative JC would not have allowed himself to be been crucified, since it was not in his best interests. This false JC wouldn't think it prudent to sacrifice for others, since altruism in the conservative dictionary has always been extant.

The true liberal JC would not approve of bombing the earthly life out of 100,000+ innocent people for oil and revenge for one's daddy.

Tell these blind, ignorant fools that the blood of thousands is on THEIR hands for supporting the unrighteous, evil, illegitimate murderous king now occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. :puke:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:45 PM
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24. Dude, Ridgecrest IS a small town. Just walk to her cabin and slap her.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:05 PM
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26. Hmm, let's see:
Jesus was a long-haired homeless Jew who:

advocated peace.

preached against capitalism.

offered free health care.

preached clemency for law-breakers (both spiritual and civic).

advised people to pay their taxes.

associated with the working class, the unemployed, prostitutes and terrorists.

forsaw damnation for the wealthy.

gave his life for the salvation of others.

preached unconditional love, tolerance and acceptance.



Yep, Jesus was a liberal. O8)
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UCLA02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:17 PM
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29. Perfect!
Send that in! This is exactly the kind of thing they print (even from out-of-towners. It makes them think that people actually got to their website.)
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:14 AM
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28. How about this article:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:47 PM
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32. Here's a loooong email I put together for a friend
I cut and pasted from websites found with a quick google, not really in letter, or LTTE form, but feel free to pick and choose...


Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 3)
Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land. (Verse 4)
Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Verse 5)
Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. (Verse 6)
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 10)


The "right" chokes on the beatitudes

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If the right-wingers really studied the matter, they'd find they have more in common with Muhammad than with Jesus. Muhammad was a merchant, a businessman and entrepreneur - a capitalist. Before Jesus walked off his job, he was a carpenter, a common laborer - and with his talk of brotherhood, no doubt would have been a union man.

He hung out with the dregs of society: the poor, prostitutes, tax collectors, and finally thieves. Not exactly the kind of person to whom you would entrust your most precious and eternal possession: your stock portfolio.

Jesus revealed his anti-business agenda as soon as he threw the money-changers out of the temple. To the orthodox for whom taxation is government organized theft, Jesus' clear advocacy of paying taxes by "rendering unto Caesar" is a complete abomination. Scholars are still divided over whether the raising of Lazarus was to escape the death tax or an intent to pay it twice.

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Jesus mollycoddled the poor and went out of his way to condemn the rich. His warning that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to get into heaven was typical socialist blather. The affluent have had to devote themselves to breeding smaller camels and building larger needles ever since.

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Jesus' purpose in life was to do the will of His heavenly Father. Wherever He went, He brought goodness. He never hurt or injured anyone, although He did get angry at others who did wrong. He called self-righteous church-going people vipers and once turned over tables in the temple where money-changers were taking advantage of the people.

Jesus was friends with the outcast of society—sinners. He reached out to the publicans, thieves, prostitutes. He never scorned anyone. He knew what was in the heart of a man (or woman). Just because they were religious did not mean that they knew God.

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Jesus challenged the Pharisees’ purity system by almost everything he did. It’s no coincidence that there are so many stories about Jesus getting into the everyday dirt and grit of life. Touching lepers, being touched by a hemorrhaging woman. Forgiving an adulteress. Going into an unclean graveyard to cast out demons and send them into a herd of unclean pigs. Eating with outcasts like tax collectors and prostitutes, and drunkards — all of those people at the very bottom of the Who’s Who of the Impure.

So Jesus came to confront the heart of this system — the temple — by driving out the money-changers and the sacrificial animal dealers; by exposing the profits and the kickbacks that the temple elite received “under the table” when he said that the temple authorities had turned his Father’s house into a “den of robbers,” as it’s recorded in Matthew, Mark and Luke.

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"Jesus replied: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments'" (Matthew 22:37-40, emphasis mine).

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another" (John 13:34-35).

The counterfeit Christ and his followers have long lists of "do's and don't's" that are preached as "Gospel." And everyone who doesn't subscribe to their legalistic list are condemned. We see them protesting with signs that read "God hates fags," "God hates baby-killers," and "God hates !"

But the genuine Jesus has just two laws: love God and love people. True followers of Jesus may not agree with the lifestyles and opinions of everyone (in fact, they shouldn't), but they will be the first to show compassion to those they disagree with. That's why Jesus hung out with drunks, prostitutes, "tax collectors," and "sinners." He loved people. He didn't love all their actions--and didn't join them in all their behaviors--but He showed them that he loved them. True followers of Jesus are not preaching against people with addictions; they are volunteering at rehabilitation programs at local shelters. They're not bombing abortion clinics; they're working in the pro-life Crisis Pregnancy Centers.

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Jesus also had withering words for the wealthy who oppressed--or simply ignored --the poor.

"Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort" (Luke 6:20, 24).

Genuine followers of Jesus have a sense of joy and satisfaction in who they are--at whatever "level" on the social or ecclesiastical ladder they may find themselves.

Jesus said, "I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete" (John 15:11).

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5. His earthly father was a carpenter, a humble hewer of wood with whom He lived and laboured, conforming to our human ways of life, custom, language and living that He might understand and love us better and communicate with us on the lowly level of our own limited human understanding!--He learned to LOVE Mankind. He saw their suffering and had great compassion on them, longing to not only heal their sick and broken bodies, but also to save their immortal spirits!

6. When the time came and He began his life's work, He went about everywhere doing good.--Helping people, loving children, healing heartaches, strengthening tired bodies, saving whom He could. He not PREACHED His message, but He LIVED it amongst us. He not only ministered to their spiritual needs, but He spent a great deal of time ministering to their physical and material needs, miraculously healing them when they were sick, feeding them when they were hungry and sharing His life and His Love!

7. He was so simple and His religion was so simple that He said you must become as a little CHILD to receive it! He didn't preach Temple worship, He didn't preach going to synagogue nor going to church, He didn't preach any complicated ceremonies or difficult rules.--All he did was preach LOVE and show Love, as He strove to lead God's children into the True Kingdom of God, whose only laws are to "love the Lord with all thy heart" and "love thy neighbour as thyself".

8. He had very little to do with the high-fallutin', rich-robed, churchy scribes, pharisees and hypocrites--the religious leaders of that day--except when they insisted on annoying Him with their critical questions. Then He would sock it to them, publicly exposing them as the "blind leaders of the blind" that they were, even telling them that they were like white-washed SEPULCHRES, which indeed appear beautiful, clean and holy on the OUTSIDE, but WITHIN are full of rottenness, corruption and stinking dead men's bones!

9. He was not a mere religious reformer, He was a REVOLUTIONARY! He refused to compromise with the false religious system, but rather worked totally OUTSIDE of it, reaching and sharing His Love with the poor and common folk who had long ago abandoned and been abandoned by organised religion. He never went into any bar with whip in hand, breaking up the bottles and throwing out the bartender. Nor did He ever enter any brothel, beating up the poor girls, overturning their beds and throwing the men out the window.--But He DID make a whip, go into their big beautiful religious Temple, overturn the tables, spill out the money and drive the money-mad money-changers out of the church, condemning them for turning what was supposed to be a house of prayer into a den of thieves!

10. He made Himself of no reputation, and was a companion of drunks and prostitutes, publicans and sinners, the outcasts and downtrodden of society. He even told them that they would enter the Kingdom of Heaven before the so-called "good" people, the self-righteous and religious leaders who re jected Him and His simple Message of Love. The power of His Love and of His appeal was so great and gave such great faith to the sincere truth-seekers that they didn't hesitate to drop everything they had and forsake all immediately to become His full-time followers!

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From Matthew 25:

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are
blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for
you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are
cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to
eternal life."

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Ruth went to her mail box and there was only one letter. She picked
it up and looked at it before opening, but then she looked at the
envelope again.
There was no stamp, no postmark, only her name and address.
She read the letter:

Dear Ruth:

I`m going to be in your neighborhood Saturday afternoon
and I'd like to stop by for a visit.

Love Always, Jesus

Her hands were shaking as she placed the letter on the
table. "Why would the Lord want to visit me? I'm nobody special. I don't have anything to offer."
With that thought, Ruth remembered her empty kitchen cabinets.
"Oh my goodness, I really don't have anything to offer. I'll have
to run down to the store and buy something for dinner." She reached for her purse and counted out its contents. Five dollars and forty cents. "Well, I can get some bread and cold cuts, at least."
She threw on her coat and hurried out the door.

A loaf of French bread, a half-pound of sliced turkey,
and a carton of milk...leaving Ruth with grand total twelve cents to last her until Monday. Nonetheless, she felt good as she headed home, her meager offerings tucked under her arm.

"Hey lady, can you help us, lady?"
Ruth had been so absorbed in her dinner plans, she hadn't even
noticed two figures huddled in the alleyway. A man and a woman,
both of them dressed in little more than rags

"Look lady, I ain't got a job, ya know, and my wife and I have
been living out here on the street, and, well, now it's getting cold
and we're getting kinda hungry and, well, if you could help us. Lady,
we'd really appreciate it."

Ruth looked at them both. They were dirty, they smelled bad and frankly, she was certain that they could get some kind of work if they really wanted to.

"Sir, I'd like to help you, but I'm a poor woman myself. All I have
is a few cold cuts and some bread, and I'm having an important guest
for dinner tonight and I was planning on serving that to Him."

"Yeah, well, okay lady, I understand. Thanks anyway."

The man put his arm around the woman's shoulders, turned
and headed back into the alley.

As she watched them leave, Ruth felt a familiar twinge in her heart.

"Sir, wait!" The couple stopped and turned as she ran down the alley after them. "Look, why don't you take this food. I'll figure out
something else to serve my guest." She handed the man her grocery bag.

"Thank you lady. Thank you very much!"

"Yes, thank you!" It was the man's wife, and Ruth could see now that she was shivering. "You know, I've got another coat at home. Here,
why don't you take this one." Ruth unbuttoned her jacket and slipped
it over the woman's shoulders. Then smiling, she turned and walked
back to the street...without her coat and with nothing to serve her
guest.

"Thank you lady!"

"Thank you very much!"

Ruth was chilled by the time she reached her front door, and worried too. The Lord was coming to visit and she didn't have anything to
offer Him. She fumbled through her purse for the door key. But as
she did, she noticed another envelope in her mailbox.

"That's odd. The mailman doesn't usually come twice in one day."
She took the envelope out of the box and opened it.

Dear Ruth:

It was so good to see you again. Thank you for the lovely meal. And thank you, too, for the beautiful coat.

Love Always Jesus

The air was still cold, but even without her coat, Ruth no longer
noticed.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:46 PM
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35. Letter I would write
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 02:48 PM by Cheswick2.0
Dear Editor,

I love it when right wing racist/religious bigots expose themselves right out in public. It helps us liberal Christians know exactly who it is Jesus wants us to pray for.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:48 PM
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36. Jesus was the ORIGINAL LIBERAL
Looking out for the poor and down-trodden, healing the sick, what could be more LIBERAL??? Jesus was a bloody-flaming-bleeding-heart liberal of the ilk that normally makes righties tremble with self-righteous rage.

And if would want to find the precursor to the neocons and the Bush Administration, just look to the Romans.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:53 PM
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37. That's so off the mark it sounds like satire.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:58 PM
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39. You can only argue with people who agree upon the facts
and people who believe in right wing religion and politics distort the facts to meet their needs. They aren't worth responding to.

I studied religion for many years and I have a hard time seeing how anyone could reconcile Biblical Christianity with being a Republican.
Biblical Christianity advocates helping the poor, obeying the law, subverting the given order of the world for the kingdom of heaven, loving one's neighbor, bringing about peace and radical inclusiveness.

I could never match that up with the Right wing Christians who are full of hatred for homosexuals and muslims and want to take away their rights; who celebrate war as the only means of resolving conflict; who rarely have any diversity in their highly opinionated and authoritarian leadership; who embrace a political party which has contempt for the poor and advocate policies which create more poverty.

Right wing Christian politics are the antithesis of the teachings of Christ in truly Biblical Christianity.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:00 PM
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40. There ain't no "SUPPLY SIDE" Jesus
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:03 PM
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41. Praise the Lord.
Finally someone is listening. And stuff.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:35 PM
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44. Liberal Christians are the only real Christians
and that woman needs to stop springing for the wash n' wax every time she switches on Faux.
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