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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:11 AM
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As a child, did the "Chronicles of Narnia" strike you as particularly
religious? It was just a fun read to me.

Just curious.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:13 AM
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1. not a bit.
and even still it's a good story first, allegory second.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:27 AM
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4. Yes, I agree.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:13 AM
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2. I didn't read it until I was an adult.
Still didn't think it was "preachy" by any stretch.
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:15 AM
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3. I never finished reading it. It was too boring.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:17 AM
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12. I'm with you there
I think my lifelong dislike of Fantasy lit started there, Tolkein stamped out any lingering interest in the genre.
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:27 AM
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14. I read the first book of Narnia in 4th grade, didn't like it.
Then I read the Hobbit in 5th grade, and then the entire LoTR trilogy that summer. Tolkien made me like fantasy.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:31 AM
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16. the only Tolkein book I ever enjoyed
was his biography.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:33 AM
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5. Its perhaps too allegorical for children to get
Also the symbology is not the same today as it was back then. The connections would be more readily present in the past than these days.

It is a well crafted story and weaves its message into its context very well.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:04 AM
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6. I agree with everyone else
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 03:06 AM by salvorhardin
It's a wonderful story and the Christian symbolism is pretty much benign. Even so, I think it represents everything that is great about Christianity -- this coming from an atheist.

On edit: 'benign' sounds wrong in there. not sure what word I'm looking for. I should have been in bed two hours ago. :-)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:05 AM
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7. I agree with that.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:33 AM
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10. Harmless, maybe? (nt)
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:56 AM
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8. I saw the religious stuff here and there in the stories--
but I was a weird little kid. I *got* that Aslan was God in Narnia, but it wasn't really a big deal until the last book. I had read some mythology and Bible stories before and was like--"Hey, Narnia's getting ready for a Ragnarok." It didn't blow the fantasy for me.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:13 AM
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9. No, but a little scary, and
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 07:15 AM by tngledwebb
as an adult the books seemed so strange that I wouldn't want to push them on my children.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:16 AM
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11. What aspects of the Narnia stories
make them so strange that you wouldn't want your children to read them?

Not picking a fight here -- everyone has their own opinions on what's best for their kids -- just wondering.

How about Madeline L'Engle's books (A Wrinkle In Time, A Wind In The Door, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, etc.)? These are also great children's literature that have an overtly Christian subtext.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:35 AM
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18. I woudn't censor or stop anyone from reading them,
it's just my response on my last look. Maybe I'll have another go.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:20 AM
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13. They were written to bring Christian morality to children. That was the
point.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:27 AM
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15. "In the Narnia Chronicles, Lewis retells the story of Jesus Christ ...
using the character of Aslan the lion as His analog; Lewis does this in language that children find easy to understand, but at the same time the language is not so simple as to make the series unenjoyable for adults. Lewis’s Christianity never intrudes. The Chronicles aren’t a dull retelling of Bible stories or a boring Sunday-school lesson; like everything written by Lewis, the books are eminently readable and while there are great lessons to be learned from them, those lessons are couched in terms of fantasy and adventure that attract and please the reader of whatever age."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/elkins/elkins44.html
 
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:32 AM
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17. I've never been religous - and as a child I read the books and loved them
I had no idea they had any relationship to a religious story until I got older.
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Krupskaya Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:49 AM
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19. My son loves them.
We read right through all of them last year. He just turned six.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 09:59 AM
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20. Not at all.
I need to get that series for my kids.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:27 AM
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21. Not until Aslan skinned Eustace.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 10:36 AM by ContraBass Black
I see the allegory in all of them now.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:48 AM
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22. I never got the allegory as a kid. Someone pointed it out to me.
I like the books very much, although not as much as LotR and The Hobbit, by Tolkien.

C.S. Lewis is the kind of Christian writer we really need these days. He is benign, loving, and in "The Screwtape Letters", very funny.

It's sad that the foul "Left Behind" crap is what passes for 'Christian' literature these days.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:59 AM
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23. not at all
and when i read his other work when i was a teenager, I was surprised at how non religious the narnia books were. Then I reread them :dunce:
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:02 AM
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24. I knew it had spiritual overtones
though I didn't get the Christian angle despite the fact that I was an avide reader of my children's bible at the time. This is proof, to my mind, that children cannot generally understand the subtleties of the Christian message or any religious message and religious training (if desired) should not begin until a person is old enough to recognize the differences between fact and fiction. IMHO
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:08 AM
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25. I LOVED those books when I was a child.
Read them all in 2nd and 3rd grade, and had no idea that there were Christian overtones initially. By the time I got to the last book, I did ask my mom if Aslan was supposed to be God.
I got into Madeleine L'Engle by 4th grade, and once again had no idea that this was supposed to have Christian overtones.

I'll tell you, Madeleine L'Engle and CS Lewis had a huge impact on my life, and I wish there were more like them. Real people with a sense of humor who aren't afraid to talk about how it's ok to question and struggle with your faith.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:17 AM
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26. Parents complained when my mom used the 1st in her 5th gr class
but not parents who objected because the book was, on one level, religious, as she half-expected. Instead, it was conservative christian parents who complained about the idolatry, and insisted that their child be allowed to read an alternate assignment (which my mom accommodated).

As a kid, I knew they were religious b/c my brother got the whole set for a confirmation gift when I was 7, but I didn't really get the allegory. Mom's experience just shows that some adult conservative christian minds aren't ready for allegory either.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:35 AM
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27. I like how all the right wing fundies fawn over C.S. Lewis.
Not knowing that he was an avowed socailist and would definitley not approve of Bush.
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