Any DUer own a military Jeep?

[oneighty]

My wife does! We are interested in parts, information and so on.

She is also VERY interested in selling it!

180, Part owner, the trouble part!

[Catch22Dem]

1. An old Willy's?

Got a pic?

ON EDIT: Did I spell that right?

[oneighty]

2. I do not know

I am trying to get the papers on it, this week I hope. No picture. The body is in very good shape.

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[happyslug]

3. Some general Jeep Information:

Here is some pictures and history of the Jeep:

History of the name “Jeep”:
http://members.tripod.com/HoboJeepers/jeepo.htm
Most of the links on the page do NOT work so for more information try these links instead:


History of the WWII Jeep with pictures:
http://www.off-road.com/~early/history.html

History of Eugene the Jeep (With Pictures:)
http://members.tripod.com/HoboJeepers/eugene.htm

History of the Jeep. Both Civilian and Military:
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~ijcossor/index.html


Other “Jeeps” Including the B-17 before it as the Flying Fortress:
http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm

[oneighty]

4. Thanks happyslug

Were there various manufacturers of Jeeps? I was under the impression they were a Chrysler product. We did not have many Jeeps in my part of the Navy. They were no good in deep water.

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[happyslug]

5. M38 Series, Willys Series

Bantam made the "First Jeep" but lost out to Willys for the main contract douing WWII (Bantam had produced Trailers prior to WWII and received the Trailer contract for the WWII Jeep).

Ford also produced Jeeps During WWII.

At the end of WWII, Willys won the right to use the Trade Name "Jeep" and produced the M38 Series of Jeeps for the Army during Korea. During Vietnam the M151 Series came out and while everyone in the Army called them "Jeeps" technically they were "Mutts" (A name NEVER used by anyone who used or drove one, but was the Army develpment name, like Humvee was for the Humvee series of Vehicles). The M151 Series of Jeeps were made by Ford. They are unsafe to drive and some years ago you could buy them, but after you bought them, the Government cut them in half so you could not drive them (They were being sold for scrap).

I liked the M151 Jeep the few times I drive one. Small, easy to steer, easy to park (Unlike the M35 2 1/2 ton trucks I normally drove). I also saw one turn over in front of me when it blew a front tire. Stay with the WWII Willys or the M38 series (both can tip over but no where near as easy as the M151 series).

[happyslug]

6. M38 were 24 volt systems, the WWII Jeeps were 6 volt systems

For your information, the M151 is also a 24 volt system. If it is a WWII era jeep how much do you want for it?

[oneighty]

8. I will book mark this page, get back to you.

Thanks you have been most helpful. I knew about the tipping. Lost a friend that way.

Ed

[happyslug]

9. Roll bars saved my First Sgt's Life.

My first Sgt was in the Jeep when it tipped. The Army had just the year before installed roll bars and seat belts into the Jeep, He had has helmet on (as did his driver) but he still went over a couple of lanes on the Pa Turnpike (We were returning to Pittsburgh from our two weeks in Indiantown Gap). Roll bars do save lives and I will NOT drive a Jeep without one.

Roll bars cost on $134.00 plus installation.

[oneighty]

11. This has

serious roll bars on the rear deck. I do not see how they might protect those in front. It was a friend of mine doing his two weeks reserve duty killed when the damn Jeep rolled.

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[happyslug]

12. A lot of people were killed by those M151s

The Army should NEVER have bought them, and once they found out how bad the M151s were, the Army should have STOPPED buying them. The M151 used Unibody construction (as opposed to the frame and body construction of the Jeeps made by Willys) with a rear suspension that was a killer (A friend of mine told me that the M151 was given the rear axle of the early Corvairs, so GM could get rid of these dogs of rear axles. The Corvair's main reason for rolling over i.e. its "rear suspension swing arm arrangement which caused the rear wheel to tuck under the chassis in hard cornering which causes a catastrophic roll over", is the same type of accident as what happen with the M151 series. I do not know if the rear axle was the same or similar but both vehicles had similar types of accidents and were designed about the same time. Maybe just two bad designs but I am repeating what I heard.)

The $134 roll bars just go over the rear of the Driver. They DO WORK, Jeeps when they roll over will roll over the roll bar AND the rear or Front end of the Jeep. If you have your seat belt most people will survive the roll over (as did my first Sgt).

Now the better roll bars have a second Roll bar right behind the dash with connecting bar between the front and rear. With these you have an even better chance of surviving a roll over. More expensive, but worth it.

My 1995 Wrangler has the roll over bar behind the Front Seat and connecting bars from the roll bar to the front dash. Not as good as a front roll bar but from what I hard better than no front roll bar.

I have never rolled my Jeep (and do not plan to) but if I even get an old Jeep I would look into retrofiting a dual roll bar system. I like living.

[Don_G]

7. Hemming's Motor News

Is the best source for parts, information and "Want Ads" among serious collectors so far.

[happyslug]

10. Other Jeep Parts Sources:

Other Jeep Parts sources:

http://www.carsdot.com/jeep.htm

Quadratec has parts for Jeeps Also (Through mostly CJs and Wranglers):
http://www.quadratec.com

http://www.jeepparts-tellico4x4.com/

http://www.tellico4x4.com/index.html