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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:39 PM
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Why do some people call handbags "pocketbooks"?
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:40 PM
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1. Same reason that...
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 04:41 PM by tcfrogs
some people call Kirstie Alley annoying :)
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:41 PM
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2. good one!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:41 PM
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3. The same reason some people call them "purses"
Purses, handbags, pocketbooks: six of one, a half a dozen of the other, and a quarter of a case of the third
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:42 PM
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4. Why do people call purses handbags?
n/t
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:00 PM
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22. In England
because a purse is the smaller container carried within the handbag which carries money and/or credit-cards.

Also because it's a bag which one holds with a hand (we English are simple people and don't like terms to be too complicated).
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:44 PM
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5. I say purse. When I lived in Charlotte, it was pocketbook.
I found that odd too. I guess it's like the pop/soda thing. :shrug:
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Soopercali Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:01 PM
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6. Philly = "pocketbook".
Sometimes you hear people call them "purses" or "handbag," but hardly ever.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:02 PM
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8. It seems to be different everywhere! nt
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:02 PM
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7. My mom always says pocketbook
In New York. Maybe it's more generational than geographic :shrug:
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:11 PM
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14. Same here
In Queens it is pronounced "pockabook"
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:03 PM
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9. In the south any "soda" is a "coke."
If you say "soda" or "pop" we know you're not from these parts!

I think that I use all three words for a ladies bag. A handbag or pocketbook is the kind with a handle or handles that you carry by hand. A purse or shoulderbag has an over the shoulder strap.
There is such a thing as a "change purse" which holds coins.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:05 PM
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11. People definitely looked at me like I was crazy when I'd say pop.
I could never quite get used to saying soda. It feels so wierd! :P
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:09 PM
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12. Let's not start this business again
It's a flame war! Coke/soda/pop, etc....
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:16 PM
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15. It is?
You'd have to be wound pretty tight to get mad about POP. :P
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:18 PM
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16. Hee hee!
Not me, but I've seen flame-fests here regarding such an important issue!
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:03 PM
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10. my Grandma called it a pocketbook.
or a pockabook. She grew up in New York.
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nutsnberries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:09 PM
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13. what do you want me to call it?
i'll call it anything.

I always used to say pocketbook
but now sometimes I say purse- never handbag.
Handbag sounds like something Lily Tomlin would hit the ol' guy with,
but I don't know... I'll call it whatever you want.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:21 PM
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19. Lily Tomlin?
nah... it was Ruth Buzzi who wielded the pocketbook.

sheesh, kids these days.


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nutsnberries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:28 PM
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20. hahahaha....
you're right...

kids? nah, i just slipped a bit.

i'd call that thing she has in her lap a handbag-
and she was an OLD BAG!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:19 PM
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17. I've always said purse.
My mother in law is from New Jersey and says pocketbook, which seems strange, since it is neither a pocket nor a book.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:31 PM
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21. Sounds like that SNL skit "Coffee Talk"
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 05:39 PM by Lex
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with Mike Meyers playing Linda Richman:

"A pocketbook is neither a pocket nor a book. Discuss."






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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:20 PM
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18. Because their mothers did! n/t
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:14 PM
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23. Origin of "purses":
Pockets are a relatively recent invention.
Before pockets, people would carry small valuables like coins or jewels in small cloth or leather pouches tucked in a waistband or sash/belt.
Eventually they discovered that a drawstring around the top of the pouch would keep the valuables more secure.
It was noted that the top of the closed bag resembled puckered or pursed lips.
It's only because of a semantic choice long ago that today ladies don't carry "puckers".

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
;-)
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:02 AM
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26. Hmmm ... very interesting ... so what's the origin of "Fudpuckers"?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:05 AM
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27. Ok now that just sounds obscene!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:12 AM
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28. Hmmm... you may be onto something.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:42 AM
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29. It's what Elmer does
when he's about to kiss someone.
Next question?
;-)
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MyshkinCommaPrince Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:04 AM
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24. Isn't that a whaddayacall "isogloss"?
Sneakers vs. tennis shoes vs. plimsoles.

Soda vs. soft drink vs. "pop".

I heard about those on public radio, back in the good old days.
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DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:16 AM
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25. My grandmother (and I'm 'old' myself).....would say pocketbook
I remember too that she would refer to her luggage as "a grip" (i.e., I've packed my grip)

I also remember something about a cosmetic 'bag'/kit, being called a 'train case'.

And a men's little shaving/travel bag being called a DOP bag (I don't remember where 'DOP' comes from....but it was called something else as well)
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:17 AM
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31. DOPP Kit.


The classic men's toiletries bag.
In the past many referred to any shaving kit as a "Dopp kit", like Kleenex for any type of tissue.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:09 AM
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30. Where I grew up
in upstate New York, my mom (originally from the West Coast) always carried a "purse" but I often heard these things called "pocketbooks" by others. Everyone seemed to know what a purse was, though. I suppose they are called pocketbooks because they are like a "book" of pockets? I never heard them called handbags until I moved to NYC.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:35 AM
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32. perhaps because you open it like a book?
I LOVE mysterious word origins.
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