Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who or what was "Spring Heeled Jack", The Terror of London ?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:10 AM
Original message
Who or what was "Spring Heeled Jack", The Terror of London ?
I have been interested in a unsolved mystery from London in the 19th century where a person with a ghoulish appearance assaulted women, apparently breathed flames and could leap more than 15 feet into the air.
Sightings of Jack started in the late 1830s, but he was sighted many times through the rest of the century, even attacking British soldiers in the 1870s. He was seen in Liverpool in 1904, where he leapt off of a church spire and then bounded over onlookers. He might have been seen in Wales as late as 1948.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/3602/springy.html

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/articlejack.shtml

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
1. Pan the Goat
That was Pan. Often he could be identified by his odor of 'Jitterbug Perfume' which covered his real stench.

Indeed Major Carter.

180
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. Devil in Devon
Yes that was Pan.

I have him confused with my BIL 'Spring Heels Jack'.

180
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. who is this 'pan'?
Is he some sort of goat like satyr, a demon or something.
No explanation can account for that story either
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
23. Pan is a god of the ancients.
He is half man half goat all horny and he stinks.(The lower half is mostly goat) He lives in the forests and on the plains and on the mountains; he is everywhere. He plays beautiful seductive music on his 'Pan Pipes' luring to him willing young maidens and other curious music lovers. Over a period of time he morphed into the very devil himself. (so it is said by the old people) and me. Oh wait! I am an old people.

For the most interesting of stories in which Pan is a main character read: 'Jitterbug Perfume' By Tom Robbins.

You will laugh you will say "Oh my!" and you will smell the perfume.

Beets.

180
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
2. I've read about that. It's creepy.
I'm not sure what it could have been.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. That is the thing---there is no rational explanation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:37 AM
Response to Original message
4. The picture looks like Batman.
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 09:41 AM by Spider Jerusalem


Quick...where was Bruce Wayne in 1840?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Fighting crime in Gotham City
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 09:41 AM by Zuni
where he was in 1840 is a bigger mystery
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Whoops...
my typo rate seems to be higher than normal lately. Too much damned caffeine...makes my hands unsteady.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. my hands always shake
I do not know why, but I am usually highly caffinated
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #4
21. I think you've hit on something here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:46 AM
Response to Original message
8. The Jersey Devil on vacation? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:48 AM
Response to Original message
9. It's the spring heels that bother me.
The fire-breathing and apparatus - that could be done, particularly by a circus artiste, but I can't see how the springs would work without breaking your legs very, very quickly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. even with springs in the shoes
how does one bound over houses?

The fire breathing is even more mysterious because no one was ever burned by him, even though he was usually close enough to grab someone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. The stories would be somewhat exaggerated over time.
I'm pretty sure SHJ existed, but I don't buy the leaping over houses part. Does this tie in with the cloven footprints found all over a small town in Devon in the 1840's, even over rooftops and the weird cloven footprints found on the deserted island of Kerguelen at the same time, approximately?

I believe the Marquess of Waterford was suspected at the time, but SHJ has been sighted periodically ever since - who knows.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. The Marquis of Waterford
has been named several times in articles I have read. SHJ had a cape with a coat of arms and a W inside it. The Marquis was also a notorious prankster who was rough with the ladies.

The 'Devil in Devon' is mysterious as well, as something left footprints for 40 miles in those towns, CLoven hoofprints actually, and they went over houses, stopped at walls only to begin on the other side.
As strange as crop circles
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. Hm.
Legs bound in canvas from hip to instep, and splinted, with just a bit of give at the knees, perhaps. Only way I can think of to make it work. Of course that would play hell with balance and the ability to make a clean landing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. The landing is tricky - how do you stop bouncing, or land upright?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. If not for the fact...
that several of the attacks took place in relatively open areas, I'd suspect a harness, rope, pulley, and a nearby confederate on the other end. But with springs on the heels, one could land on the toes, I suppose...(there IS still that balance problem, though).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. too add to this discussion
in some reports I have read the police found his footprints at the scene of one of his appearances. Witnesses said the shoes had some sort of contraption or irregularity evident in the print
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:21 AM
Response to Original message
19. Amazing. He appears in several Tim Powers books....
Powers writes fantasies--many with a historical background. His works show a deep knowledge of various periods & are highly original. (No 3rd rate Tolkien ripoffs.)

So I'll add this tidbit to his sources. Fits well with vampire-haunted Romantic poets & zombie pirates encountered on the quest for the Fountain of Youth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Tim Powers eh?
I am always looking for something new and original to read
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Here's more info....
A pretty good fan site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~cbranch/powers.html

His historical fantasy includes The Stress of Her Regard, On Stranger Tides and The Anubis Gates. More contemporary works follow the Fisher King to Vegas & investigate the occult roots of the Cold War.

I wouldn't read the reviews at the site because some of them give away too much plot. Just check out Amazon.com or your local bookstore & start reading....


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 05:08 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC