Solon
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:29 PM
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D&D Geeks, did it piss you off.... |
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that the D&D movie completely sucked? Besides the bad acting, horrid plot, and the cheesy characters, but...Controlling DRAGONS!?!? :wtf: was that all about. I mean, at least they kept to some rules, i.e. Gold dragons=good, Red=evil, but CONTROLLING them through scepters!!! :wtf:
I was SOOOOOO Pissed that that movie completely sucked, at least LOTR did something right. But, C'mon! Why didn't they make the movie based Drizzt Do'Urden, or Dragonlance series, or Elminister, something, but no, they had to create a sucky world that had no logical sense to it at all, even within the confines of fantasy. I hate that movie, and now they are supposed to come out with another one, supposedly big budget, let us hope it isn't a fucking sequel, or a repeat of the mistakes of the last one.
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:36 PM
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1. I whole-heartedly agree... |
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I was just baffled at how little the movie complied with the game of the same name. They should have known that the only way to make it correctly is to appeal to the hardcore gamers. It's not like there wouldn't have been any action and that you couldn't make it appeal to a wide audience.
If only they'd kept the faith then they would have made millions of dollars strictly off of the 'geek factor' alone, i.e., action figures, DVD sales, conventions, etc.
If only they had adapted a module or something instead of that piece of crap script.
Yeesh.
I hope the new one is better.
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:36 PM
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2. I was not a D&D geek ... |
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but it still pissed me off that the movie sucked ... I was a fan of the cartoon though .
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:37 PM
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3. i like how they made it accessible to a new generation |
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but i think they did it really poorly. And how can you squandor Jeremy Irons like that, i mean, really Jeremy fucking Irons.
The main heros needed better casting.
the "beholder" was pretty wickit.
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:08 PM
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17. ....because Jeremy Irons is a horrific overactor. |
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:40 PM
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4. believe it or not, they are making a sequel |
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No idea why, but the movie sucked ass. The acting was terrible, and they had some decent actors in there - Jeremy Irons, Thora Birch...
I didn't really care about the dragon control thing - the whole world sucked - I mean, distracting a friggin' beholder by throwing a rock in a different direction? And, WTF was the beholder doing in there in the first place? It's like having Robert DeNiro or Tom Hanks come in for a 5 second non speaking cameo... The elves lived in a place that looked like a bad rip off of the Swiss Family Robinson tree with Christmas lights.
God, I can go on forever, but I'm trying to blot it from my memory.
Oh well, I suppose it has some unintentional camp value.
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:46 PM
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How that beholder fit in makes no sense to me, but seriously, if I ran Wizards of the Coast, I would be like, NO FUCKING WAY are you going to put our name on a lemon again. I agree about the elves though, and that total cop out about them "being of magic" so they can heal him, I'm like, what the hell, they have no Clerics or Paladins in this sucky world?
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:41 PM
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i read like a d&d geek!
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Tue Jan-18-05 06:48 PM
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7. Nothing to be ashamed of, Vin Deisel is one... |
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Tue Jan-18-05 07:12 PM
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I knew they weren't going to do it properly. I would love to see the Dragonlance saga get the budget that LOTR had. If done right these movies would make a mint. Another character I'd love to see movies done on is Everis Cale from the Sembia series of Forgotten Realms. Best fantasy character since Raistlin Majere.
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Tue Jan-18-05 07:20 PM
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Tue Jan-18-05 07:24 PM
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10. I agree, there are so many stories... |
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based on fleshed out worlds, it just seems like a waste for them to create a whole new one that, to put it simply, sucks.
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Tue Jan-18-05 07:48 PM
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13. Refused to see it, as well... |
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...but did get entranced by its sheer awful badness in a video store, where I saw all I needed.
I never saw the need for a branded DUNGEONS & DRAGONS movie, anyway. They seem to have blown so much on licensing the franchise that there must not have been any left for scripting or direction.
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Tue Jan-18-05 07:39 PM
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12. No, but my expectations are so low |
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that the movie met them. What a waste of talent. I understand the auteur of the movie supposedly is a big D&D geek; I suppose the movie just meant that he isn't a very good DM....
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:02 PM
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I followed the run-up to the movie, reading a lot of stuff online about the making of the movie and all.
I'm guessing that the guy behind the movie had his movie, then tried to add in a few D&D bits for the geeks - i.e., the beholder onscreen for 5 seconds - and, in adding those things in, it kind of messed up the movie. Well, not kind of messed it up.
I mean, my picture of a thieves guild is not one with an elaborate maze... mine is more of a dark room in the sewers or in the bad section of the city where the thieves can escape easily and not lose much if the city guard or good-aligned adventurers raid them.
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:08 PM
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16. It wasn't even a real beholder....................... |
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didn't it have an eyeball in its mouth, or some kinda shit? If your gonna steal a perennial creature from the game, at least they coulda rendered it correctly. Beam-shootin' eye stalks woulda been really cool, and wouldn't have hurt the poop story one bit.
:shrug:
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:56 PM
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I would like to see a movie with a Beholder Mage in it. Just to see that gaping hole spewing ichor out of it that used to be the anti-magic eye. That would be cool :)
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:02 PM
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14. When I saw it had no basis in Greyhawk....................... |
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or Forgotten Realms, I purposely avoided it. I guessed it would be Hollywood cashing in on the franchise, and I was right. I do get a chuckle that it tanked at the box offices. I guess you can only put so much lipstick on the pig.
I agree with you that some of the existing novels could make good movies. Even though I haven't read any of the Salvatore stories, I have heard their quite good and may translate to the screen well. Hell, I think you could write a screenplay around the classic module: "The Temple of Elemental Evil" using the characters that WOC rolled out with 3E. Anything would be better than the movie they released.
I'm grateful that WOC brought the d20 system to D&D. I think it fits D&D better than the THAC0 or the 1E system. But I have been really skeptical of some of the WOC marketing of D&D. From farming out the license to that crap movie, and sticking dungeon-crawlers for ANOTHER set of rulebooks (3E to 3.5) so soon. To be fair, I've liked the choices of PC games they've authorized.
/geek
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:55 PM
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19. That's true, I lost some interest, but me and my buddy thought... |
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"How bad could it be?" Boy were we dissappointed, even with our low expectations. BTW: You should read Salvatore, go to the library, the "Icewind Dale" Trilogy is rather slow, well the first book is. But all his books, even the non-D&D ones are good. Also the "War of the Spider Queen" series is turning out to be quite good. One thing I like about the books is that they have interesting characters and plots, and most of the authors are gamers themselves, so they know the core audience, even though some, like Salvatore, seem to break the mold, writing bestsellers.
The PC Games are fantastic, ever since Baldur's Gate, I have been hooked on those, and NVN is one of the best PC games out there.
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:08 PM
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15. "Controlling dragons" was a major plot element of the Dragonlance series. |
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A plot element that sucked, true, but it was there.
Any way, I never saw the movie, I knew it would suck.
Now, if I were to make a movie called "Dungeon's and Dragon's" here's how I'd do it:
Set it in the early 1980's, and have it be about college students who play Dungeon's and Dragon's and have it switch back and forth between them, and the fantasy world they create. Make it sort of a mix between Boogie Nights/The Ice Storm/ The Wedding Singer and The Lord of the Rings.
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Tue Jan-18-05 08:11 PM
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18. Yes, it ticked me off but I expected nothing |
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less. People in Hollywood don't "get" role playing games. They were probably hoping that D&D geeks didn't care about plot (what?!) and would accept anything called Dungeons and Dragons.
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