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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:52 PM
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Poll question: Do you think "time travel" will be possible one day?
I don't.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:53 PM
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1. Yes, but not by machine. It will be spiritual in nature..
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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:55 PM
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2. Time travel already IS possible, in the future.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:04 PM
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13. Then Why Haven't We Met Anyone
from the future? Or have they just integrated so well we don't notice? Why didn't they stop Dubya getting into office.


Wait a minute...it is possible...the people from the future are evil and...OMG! Karl Rove is a time traveler from the future!

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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:08 PM
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16. Now that you've figured it all out, we'll have to take you...
back to the future.

Don't worry, soon you'll come to love Rovenia, the new world community founded by....well, there's time enough to fill you in on the details.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:02 PM
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30. What do you think UFO's are?
Little green men? I highly doubt it! I honestly think that it is just as reasonable to assume that UFO's are humans who have mastered time-travel as it is to assume that UFO's are spacecraft.

If humans have at any point in our future mastered time travel, then surely we'd see evidence of it in the present. Whoa, now I have a headache...
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:56 PM
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3. Excuse me...can anyone here tell me what year it is?




:)
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CarpeVeritas Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:56 PM
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4. time travel should be called time & space travel.
in order to get to the year 1941 on earth, for instance- you'd first have to get to that point in space where the earth was in 1941...but in order to do that you'd have to be able to calculate exactly where that point in space is- but since there are absolutely NO fixed points to navigate by, it would be IMPOSSIBLE.

ergo, time travel is impossible.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:03 PM
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12. Isn't space and time a continuum?
Me, I'd just like to get back to 2000 so I could go around here in Florida and convince 538 Nader voters to switch to Gore.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:56 PM
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5. We're doing it right now.

We're moving from the past into the future at a steady rate of one second per second.

:)


MDN
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:46 PM
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24. stole my thunder
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:11 PM
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32. steady rate of one second per second.
haha, I have said something almost identical to this before too. Did you travel back in time and take my idea? :-)
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:58 PM
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6. if we will one day time travel...
...then why haven't we gone back in time to tell ourselves how to time travel?

Or is that silly?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:06 PM
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15. that's deep :-) nt
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franksumatra Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:59 PM
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7. Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once
I'm vacationing in the future next month, AND last month.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:25 PM
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21. well said.....n/t
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:00 PM
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9. Travelling into the future is very possible, yes. Happens all the time.
Going back is impossible.
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exploited Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:40 PM
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34. History repeats
We are always going back in time, round and around. It seems impossible -- "how can we have let this happen AGAIN?" -- but it happens, all the time.

In The Future (after all the wars, and oil famine and population decline) we will probably return to living in peaceful rural harmony... and "The Dark Age" will become another note in history.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:01 PM
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10. According to relativity Time and Space are indivisible
and should be referred to as time-space. One's perception of time is dependent on one's position in space. It has already been shown that time slows down as one goes faster. I'm pretty sure that travel backwards in time is possible, but Stephen Hawking is going to have to explain it for me.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:05 PM
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14. Try This Link
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:01 PM
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11. To The Future MAYBE, Not The Past
I am kind of with Stephen Hawking on his "chronological protection conjecture"

If we were to travel to the past, we would create an alternate universe or time line.

It is rather comforting to think that somewhere, on some dimension Dubya was never President.
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Gay Ranger Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:13 PM
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17. Time does not exist...
Or at least as something that can be manipulated. You are where you are at the time that you are there. No matter where you go or where you go, you will be there at the time you are there.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:14 PM
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18. A time machine already exists.
It's called a "history book".
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phantomvotes Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:17 PM
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19.  "Die Glocke" - 'the Bell'.
Could this be it? Was the 'Bell' an antigravity device? Could this be what Kammler and others used to make a deal with the United States? If the 'Bell' really was an operational antigravity machine, it would have certainly been spectacular enough to effectively seduce the victors of the war.
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/endgame-2-p2.htm

Actually, the 'Bell' could potentially be something even more spectacular. "Marckus," an eminent scientist in one of Britain's best-known universities (Cook refrains from using this person's real name), who had become Cook's unofficial technical adviser, had an insight. Cook wrote:

Shortly before I boarded my flight at Munich, I checked my cell phone for messages. There were four and Dan Marckus had left three of them. Whatever was on his mind, I knew I was on to something, because, for once, Marckus was chasing me.
With one eye on the departure gate and another on the clock, I called him back.
Even over the bustle of movement in the departure hall and the static of a bad line, I could tell something was definitely up. <...>
"I know what they were trying to do," he said simply. <...>
My tone softened. "OK, go ahead. I'm listening."
"They were trying to generate a torsion field."
"What is a torsion field?"
"Laternentrager means 'lantern holder.' But it's the second code name that's the giveaway. Chronos. You know what it means, don't you?"
"Yes, Dan. I know what it means. What is a torsion field? What does it do?"
"If you generate a torsion field of sufficient magnitude the theory says you can bend the four dimensions of space around the generator. <...> When you bend space, you also bend time." <...>
"Now, do you understand what they were trying to do?"
I said nothing. It was Marckus who closed the loop.
"They were trying to build a fucking time machine," he said.<14>

In effect, then, the Nazis were constructing a 'stargate'! If only half true, this would still be an astounding development. Following this scenario, moreover, we would have the U.S. receiving this amazing but dangerous 'gift'. And, of course, in the movie Contact, the blueprint for the 'stargate' received by the U.S. came in the form of a video of the Nazis (!).
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:00 PM
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28. "The Bell" has made me wonder (and this is highly speculative):
Was the explosion of UFO phenomena in the 1940s a result of Nazi and US experiments in creating a dimensional portal?

In Nick Cook's The Hunt for Zero Point he tells of SS General Hans Kammler, who disappeared at the end of the war (presumably swept up by Project Paperclip), along with his above-top-secret work on something called "The Bell." Cook's source tells him its purpose was to generate a torsion field; to actually bend space-time. The SS, it is suggested, was experimenting with a transdimensional portal at the same time Allied aircraft were encountering "foo fighters."

I find it intriguing that meanwhile, in the Western US, rocket scientist and accolyte of Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons (the founder of Jet Propulsion Laboratories), was conducting metaphysical experiments called "The Babalon Working" with L Ron Hubbard, in order to open a dimensional portal and "change the course of history." (Curiously, Crowley drew a sketch of a transdimensional being he called "LAM" he had encountered. Though it was decades before the depiction of "greys," the similarity is striking.)

Following the war, it was to the proving grounds of the western states that the extremely sensitive German technologies were removed; precisely where Parsons was using occult methods to accomplish, arguably, the intended purpose of Kammler's "Bell." And this is the time and place which saw the explosion of the modern UFO phenomena.

If so, then UFOs would not be extraterrestrial, but extradimensional, and would be another Nazi inheritance for the US National Security State.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:22 PM
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20. As it turns out, this poll is a historic event that must be reversed...
in order that the great scientist who invents time travel be convinced
to continue with her work.... and sure enough, look for several DU
newbies to be created by time travelllers in the next coupla days to
change the poll from saying it will never happen.

I admit it, i am a time traveller, and every post i've left on DU was
really designed 300,000 years ago during atlantis, where all my kin
are now dead.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:30 PM
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22. Its working well,shut it down and get us back to 2005
Diebold made it work to move us back to the 9th century.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:40 PM
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23. This is like looking in one of those three way mirrors in clothing stores
looking at a reflection of a reflection of a reflection ...........

My head hurts.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:49 PM
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25. depends on what you mean by time travel
To pick the time and date you want, and to go there by dial of a machine is clearly impossible. If it were possible, all the "great" events, such as man landing on the moon and the birth of Christ, would be over-run by tourists.

Common sense, people.

Of course in one sense we are all time travelers. I have traveled here from the 1950s. But the time we start, the speed of our journey, and the moment we exit the trip...all are out of mortal control.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:57 PM
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26. I had to vote other
as the united states is currently a time machine traveling in reverse.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:58 PM
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27. If it is
Then Bush wouldn't have won because someone would have gone back in time to stop him from being elected, or maybe it does and someone came back in time so he WOULD be elected.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:01 PM
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29. Uncle Rico wants to travel
back to the early eighties and resume his fabulous football career...

I love technology,
Not as much as I love you,
but I still love technology,
always and forever...

Kip Dynamite
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:08 PM
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31. Just have Superman push the world backwards.
Impossible.
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:16 PM
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33. Travel to future is possible
If travel near speed of light many years on "earth speed" would be weeks or months to someone who traveled near the speed of light. Now, if you could travel faster than speed of light?? Been a while since my relativity physics courses and loaned my books to a friend who hasn't returned em yet, so can't look up exact formulas you would use.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:57 PM
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35. It Happens Now !!! Ask me anything?
My cousin just traveled to the year 2020. What would you like to know?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:26 PM
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37. Every Sporting Event Between Now And Then
so we can bet & win big. Although, keep it just amongst us DUers. Too many people betting would mess up the odds. But, share it with Dems, we'll all get rich gambling, fund our own think tanks and reclaim our country!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:25 PM
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36. It's sort of possible.
You have to travel faster than the speed of light. Even if you do that, I think you can only slow down time and that's not even what's really happening.
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