Captain Pike was an idiot

[Rabrrrrrr]

Here he is, on a planet with a woman who is HOT HOT HOT!, and is hot in many different forms, and yet he insists on getting back to the Enterprise.

And yeah, Vina, in real life, is a horribly deformed yucko; but the Talosians can make her into anything! And what they make her into is HOT HOT HOT!

[alittlelark]

1. Hubby and I have discussed this as well.

Odd that I agree w/ you, yet he would not.

[General Zod]

2. I totally agree.....

....Why go back to the Enterprise, when you can be with that hottie. Plus the fact that the Talosians can make her look hot forever. I would have said, " F**K the Enterprise, I'm staying here!"

[coloradodem2005]

5. I thought he did ultimately.

n/t

[General Zod]

6. Oh........that's right.........um.......nevermind......

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. You're still right, though - if he'd stayed when he had the chance,

he wouldn't have had that accident, and wouldn't have had to go back to the planet. he could have stayed with the hottie, never knowing what she really looked like, and lived a life of sexual bliss and harmony.

[clovis29]

3. Yeah, but she is too macho for him

but Kirk OTOH ;)

[Der Blaue Engel]

4. Of course he was an idiot

That's why they replaced him with the best ST captain ever: James T. Kirk!

But you know what I never got about the Menagerie/Cage story? Vina says "they had never seen a human being before," so they didn't know what she was supposed to look like. What, they can read her mind, but not when she's unconscious? And really, did they actually think there were such stupidly misaligned creatures like that in the universe? No, it's clear they were just crappy surgeons and couldn't admit it!

Thank you for letting me rant. {bow}

:dunce: :freak:

[Rabrrrrrr]

7. Yeah, I'm glad they knocked him off and put in Kirk

Kirk was way better!

Though I wish Majel could have stayed in her role - she was a hottie, and should have gotten more time on screen in that awesome outfit. She wasn't so interesting as Nurse Chapel.

And as to the remaking of her - yeah, that doesn't make sense either, unless the Talosians CAN'T read the minds of someone who is unconcious or near death.

Because otherwise, they sure as hell know enough about human anatomy to make some perfectly real illusions.

[Deja Q]

10. Only when Vina regained consciousness... that's when their fun began!

It's a great story all the same...

And to think, it's Spock (and not Kirk) who had the idea of getting Pike back to Talos 4 so he could get jiggy with Vina...

[Orsino]

11. Jeffrey Hunter was a *terrible* actor...

I watched "Menagerie" in recent years, and was struck by just how unutterably awful he was. Shatner looks like a genius in comparison.

[DODI]

14. Did you ever see Hunter play Jesus! I can't even remember the

name of the movie -- I couldn't take it. I think he started on General Hospital when it first aired in 1964.

[Deja Q]

9. Picard wasn't any better. See, only Kirk is da' man here!

He'd find 'em all!

And did! :o

[Orangepeel]

12. didn't the Talosians want them to breed slaves?

I seem to remember that at the end, they learned that breeding a slave race was wrong so they let Pike go.

But the whole 'using your children as slaves because they can't lift their arms" thing might have put a damper on the hot sex.

[Enraged_Ape]

13. He didn't want to be a captive and a guinea pig

It was only after he was imprisoned in his own body that he realized what he'd given up.

Fortunately for him, he got a rare second chance for happiness.

(sniff) It's so beautiful. One of the best hours of TV science-fiction ever.