Do you believe in U.F.O.s, astral projections, mental telepathy, E.S.P....

[Kire]

...clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full-trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster, and the theory of Atlantis?

Winston Zeddemore: If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.

[autorank]

1. NO!

[eyepaddle]

2. Anybody who believes in telekinesis

raise MY hand! (thank you, whoever threw out that STeven Wright thread!) ;)

[New Earth]

3. yes

i believe in every single one you mentioned, except for the last two.

i've been there, seen it, felt it, etc....i don't believe, i KNOW. it's just a matter of getting people to believe that I KNOW.

[dog_lovin_dem]

19. ditto

and I just might believe in the last 2, too. Let's just say I don't disbelieve.;-)

[New Earth]

20. let me change that

the only one i don't believe is the lochness monster, but then i don't really care. lol

i didnt realize that said Atlantis....that I do believe, in some ways...

[Neoma]

4. do i believe in U.F.O.s ....

you realize U.F.O.s stands for Unidentified Flying Objects?

Do i believe in Unidentified Flying Objects.....i'd have to say Yes on that one!

[DebJ]

5. I have to believe in something like telepathy, since it has

happened to me numerous times. The night before my grandfather died, some hideous creature that I could not 'see' with my eyes, but could sense it being there, hung at the foot of my bed, and I knew it was death. When the phone rang at 5am, my mother sat up in bed and said, I can't go to a funeral, I don't have anything black to wear, then wondered why she said that. The phone call was my grandmother saying my grandfather had just died.
That is just the first incident. I have had many, but try usually to block them out. It is always sad unhappy stuff. Two years ago, it was a murder.

[Dookus]

6. Nope!

but I do believe in the near-endless capacity for humans to delude themselves.

[New Earth]

11. you are wrong

but i guess you have to experience to believe, if you are not one of faith

faith came first to bring me belief. experience came to bring me knowledge.

[Dookus]

12. But you see...

people who study this stuff realize that personal experience is a really poor measure of the "truth" of a proposition.

I'd recommend reading "Why People Believe Weird Things" by Michael Shermer.

If I have to accept your "experience" as proof of things, then I'd have to except EVERYBODY'S experiences as proof. That means ALL religions, major, minor and other, are true. That means the hundreds of forms of divination used throughout the centuries are all true. That means the published, peer-reviewed works of legitimate scientists are on the same level as the paranoid delusions of a schizophrenic. The problem is that many of these things are mutually exclusive - they cannot all be true.

Either the judeo-christian God is the one true God, or he is not. People use their experience to make vastly conflicting claims on thish topic - it is impossible for all the claims to be true.


People's experience told them the sun circled the Earth. Do I have to believe that because somebody's experience says it's true?

Sorry, Faye, but personal experience is a piss-poor indicator of what is true and what is not. That's why the scientific method is a superior way of determining what is real and what isn't.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. some yes, some no n/t

[Skip Intro]

8. Yes. I believe in the possibility, and in some cases, likelyhood, of many.

I'd bet most of us have experienced telepathy/ESP at some point.

I surely don't think we are the most advanced life form in the universe, and if there are more advanced, then surely they've developed space travel, as we are just begining to. And if they travel, then why wouldn't they come to see what all the activity here is about?

The others I don't disbelieve in, but I definitley have varying stages of doubt about the actual existence.

Something you didn't mention - alternate realities and different, concurrent, possibly inhabited dimensions - and travel among the varying planes via phasing.

[Theres-a]

32. Also not mentioned:The Yedi

[sakabatou]

9. I believe in UFOs

Just not the E.T. kind.

[McKenzie]

10. woah! Don't diss Nessie

the tourists will stop coming over here. Hmmm...come to think of it you'll probably be forced to stop coming to Scotland anyway, once your currency falls through the floor...smirk.

edit: it'd be a crying shame if you couldn't come and visit me.

[RagingInMiami]

22. Do you guys still eat deep-fried pizza and mars bars?

I was there ten years ago and it was a big thing. I would imagine there has been a dramatic increase in heart disease since then.

[McKenzie]

25. unfortunately lots of kids still do

fish and chip shops sell them.

very sad

regards

[Quixote1818]

13. Quantum Physics is now beginning to believe thoughts do effect

things outside the brain. Because everything in the Universe is energy and all energy is connected the energy from thoughts don't just end when they enter your conscience. They keep going! Think about it, Dolphins and Bats have sonar and can actually send out energy from their brain and see inside people almost like an ex-ray. If evolution evolves a species to have sonar capability's then basically anything is possible. Perhaps some humans have more pronounced and extra sensitive brains that can pick up very faint frequencies giving them glimpses of things like mental telepathy. I think it all deepends on the need for a species to evolve with certain kinds of ways to transmit energy. Sound is one form of energy and light perception is another. Humans have developed the ability to decipher the visual spectrum of light with sight so why not develop the capability to decipher many other forms of energy such as sonar, ex-rays etc. etc? And if those things can be deciphered by the mind then why not energy from thoughts or prayers?

I think full-trance mediums are now fully accepted by science. As far as spirit photography, I don't think their is enough evidence for that and if their are such things as spirits they probably would need to be picked up by a different kind of energy. Loch Ness is a hoax and the theory of Atlantis is probably true. Think of what the Tsunami just did! Hundreds of Islands just disappeared from the huge force of the wave. Their are hundreds of different things that can happen in nature that can cause an island to disappear.

Anyone interested in quantum physics absolutly needs to see this film: http://www.whatthebleep.com/ It will blow your mind!

[Dookus]

15. umm...

"full trance mediums" are not by any stretch "fully accepted by science."

Sonar, x-rays, etc. are all detectable forces. So far nobody has even detected a "telepathic" force, much less identified an organ resonsible for making it, the sensory mechanism needed to decode it, or any other aspect of this "force".

[Quixote1818]

26. Sorry, I thought full trance mediums were Hypnosis

As for "telepathic forces" you will just have to go see "What the bleep do we know" and argue with some of the top Quantum Physics Researchers in the world who believe thoughts do effect the Universe outside the brain. They give examples in the film and I did a search to debunk some of the stuff they talked about and found nothing. I am just as skeptical as you but the film kind of blew me away. Physics is making many new discoveries in these things that will blow your mind.

[Dookus]

36. You tried to debunk "What the Bleep Do We Know"...

and found NOTHING?

NOTHING? Did you use google, or just look in your dresser drawer?

There's plenty to debunk there, including physicists who claim they were severely misrepresented. There's also the use of JZ Knight who has made a career out of "channeling" a 35,000 year old warrior from Atlantis, and John Hagelin, who believes a bunch of TMers hopping on their knees constitutes flight.

[Quixote1818]

37. I was most skeptical about the crystal thing and the prayer thing

In Washington DC. I just did a search using the name of the guy who did the crystal experiment with the world debunk and nothing came up. Usually the skeptical inquirer has some kind of article on things like that. I will try it again tonight.

I am open minded but some of the stuff in the movie seemed a little bizarre including the part about the natives in central America not being able to see the Spanish ships. When light is reflected into your eye the retina reacts to the light which causes an image in your head. Now I can believe perhaps they could not decipher what the ship was but I can't believe they could not see the ship at all. That was bizarre! However I think much of what was in the movie was pretty good including how we preserve reality and how your thoughts can effect your body chemistry.

[Quixote1818]

39. The Rhama thing definitely sounds ridiculous

I don't know why they included that in the film. I didn't realize she actually claimed that. As with anything a person much sift through the film to find the things that seem interesting and make sense and throw out the crap. This statement is on their website:

About the Interviews, Interviewees
and Content of the Film

The people who were interviewed in What the #$*! Do We Know?! were chosen based on a number of criteria: books they’d written that were read by the filmmakers, lectures and presentations that they’d given which had been attended by various of the filmmakers, and recommendations by others in the experts’ respective fields. Ultimately, we chose these people to interview because their professional work was germane to the topics being addressed in the film. Still, the filmmakers do not necessarily support each and every statement made by all the interviewees.

By the same token, it’s also true that the people themselves who were interviewed in the film do not completely agree with each and every statement made in the film. Many professional perspectives are presented. The filmmakers chose to represent them all in the film, but it could never be possible in a film– or, perhaps, in life! – to get a group of 14 extraordinary people such as these to agree completely on a single cosmological view."

With that I think much of the film is probably based on good science while parts of it never should have been included in the film. Thanks for filling me in on some of the BS. I am always skeptical when someone says something with certainty as JZ Knight did when she said "We are all God's". That's NOT science it's what she believes Sane or nutty and if they wanted the movie to be about science they should have left out absolute statements of theology like that. It seems to me now that it was an attempt to influence people toward New Age Religion which is too bad because many of the scientists are probably extremely talented in their fields. With that I think the best part's of the film were those that dealt with the Quantum Physics of body chemistry and how positive thinking can effect the release of certain chemicals which change a person's view of reality.

[zann725]

23. And that's a perfectly good reason why we should NOT tolerate the current

world events! These are NOT our thought patterns materialized. And we ARE the majority.

I've heard others hear say the same thing about Election Night. I keep going back to that moment (about 7:30 pm P.S.T. BEFORE things started changing in Shrub's favor)...and trying to live-through an "alternate reality."

Speaking of which, the film "Sliding Doors" by Sydney Pollack (starring Gwen Paltrow) is worth seeing. It shows two alternative realities which the same woman lives through at the same time, without realizing she is also experiencing an alternate reality.

Let's try and change our future (through quantum physics thought), and that of the nation and the world WITHOUT revising all the ballot stuff!

[Theres-a]

33. Thanks!

[Floogeldy]

14. I think I had sex with an alien, once.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

16. How was it? n/t

[Floogeldy]

17. Apparently, I won't be able to remember until the next life.

Heh.

:hi:

[jdots]

18. does the letter K mean anything to you ?

the number 23, ? ah i knew it..... that will be forty dollars at the next window please and thanks for shopping at Necronomicon Mall

[alexisfree]

21. yes

[hfojvt]

24. It is like deja vu all over again

I knew somebody was going to post this question.

[Beware the Beast Man]

27. I don't think anything is beyond the realm of possibility.

Do I actively engage in seeking out such things? No, not really.

[MrModerate]

28. I'm a pure rationalist, who doesn't believe in . . .

A supernatural explanation for the universe. No way.

However . . . as a young man I worked with Dr. Jule Eisenbud, a parapsychologist (and psychiatrist) whose passion was the telekinetic Ted Serios, who was able -- and I swear I saw it done hundreds of times -- to project images onto film.

For that reason I have no choice but to believe in telekinesis (or something like it) . . . but I'm not comfortable with it!

[noonwitch]

29. All things are possible

I've experienced astral projection. I've also been to psychics who told me things they could not have possibly known. The universe is infinite, there is probably life out there somewhere other than just on earth.

I'm not so sure about spirit photography and the Loch Ness Monster. Atlantis was the ancient minoan culture, either on Santorini (Thera) or on Crete.

[6000eliot]

30. In a word

"No." My tolerance for horseshit has gone way down lately.

[Theres-a]

31. There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of

in our philosophies..:think:

[BiggJawn]

34. No.

I don't have this sigline because I like the cover...

Oh, crap, we're at "Defecate One" again, ain't we?

It's a Carl Sagan book.

[Bunny]

35. I believe that most people who claim to be able to do the above are

probably full of crap. But I'm not so arrogant as to state that any of the above are impossible. In fact, I believe that some of the above are probably quite possible, it's just that very few people are able to do them.

[NNadir]

38. No.

[Cadence]

40. Nope. Just the Easter Bunny.