I just ate my first Boca burger

[huskerlaw]

and it really wasn't that bad. I'm amazed.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

1. My sister loves those things

I believe she's tried a lot of their products and likes them very much. The one I tried was certainly better than a Gardenburger.

[KitchenWitch]

3. Gardenburgers are gross

[miss_kitty]

21. notas gross as Philip Morris getting the profits from on Boca burgers

the flame broiled Gardenbuger is very hamburger tasing. I know some of those Gardenbuger flavours are very unburger-like and gross.

[Taverner]

24. I would rather Phillip Morris get profits from Bocas

Than cigarettes.

If a company like RJ Reynolds wants to change and get out of the tobacco biz, I applaud them.

[miss_kitty]

29. even though they use those profits to

encourage kids to smoke, then say they don't;
market cigarettes and tobacco to foreign countries;
and donate heavily to PNAC and cheneybush junta types?

[Taverner]

30. Yes they do donate to the PNAC and Cheneybush types

But if you look at tobacco companies who own non-tobacco subsidies, their investment into the tobacco companies is steady, while towards the others it is growing.

Basically, they are trying to get out of the tobacco biz because they know it is a losing game.

[miss_kitty]

33. Philip Morris hired Margaret Thatcher to promote their tobacco

products in Asia soon after she was de-throned. They paid her excessively and she contributed to their earnings. In 2000, they were the top cigarette manufacturer. A couple of Boca burgers isn't gonna put out that flame.

In July, 2001:
"In July, Philip Morris is again in the headlines after a report that it commissioned and delivered to the Czech government said premature deaths from smoking benefited governments because smokers would not live to use healthcare or housing for the elderly."

Fabulous, innovative marketing, that! I don't think they consider it a losing game at all; it's just a game they have to move elsewhere.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1443087.stm

[Taverner]

36. Trust me, tobacco use will be nonexsistant in 20 years

I would bet money on this - the marketing just isn't working, and the base is not growing.

The tobacco companies realize this and are going into different products.

[huskerlaw]

4. I noticed they have "chicken" as well

but wasn't gutsy enough to try those.

[BornaDem]

25. The chicken is delicious. Even my husband can't tell it from the...

real thing. It is far superior to the burgers, but for some reason it gives me "terminal" indigestion.

[LeftyMom]

27. LeftyDad loves the spicy chicken ones

I don't eat them because they have eggs. I liked the Health is Wealth ones (although they are a bit dry) but the jerks just reformulated them with eggs. :(

[ocean girl]

2. Hey, I live in Boca!!

Just never eat them cold - then they are disgusting!

[huskerlaw]

9. Ewwww

cold. I can only imagine.

[ScreamingMeemie]

5. And now...green veggies will grow in your tummy.

:hi:

[huskerlaw]

10. Hee hee

I suppose it could be worse! :hi:

[Quetzal]

6. Ack

They have a bad aftertaste.

[RagingInMiami]

7. The black bean burgers from Morningstar are really good as well

You can crumble them up as you cook them, add some hot sauce, and make a burrito.

[huskerlaw]

11. Black bean burgers?

Interesting. I'll have to try that.

[flamingyouth]

18. I like those too

Also good in a spaghetti sauce. :hi:

[Skip Intro]

8. They're not bad. Try SmartBacon next.

Try a SBLT.

Can't tell the difference.

Also, they sell ground Boca Burgers for use w/ stuff like Manwich or Hamburger Helper. Not bad either.

[huskerlaw]

12. That actually sounds pretty good!

SLBT it is. I noticed the ground Boca. Now that I know it tastes ok, I'll try that too.

[flvegan]

32. I am soooo hungry. Got two boxes of Smart Bacon in the ole fridge.

Guess what I'm gonna have...

[DrWeird]

13. Better than McDonald's "actual burgers."

nt

[AlCzervik]

14. I love them, i have them at least 3 times a week

they must some liquid smoke or cumin in them to give them the grilled taste.

[serryjw]

23. I need advice on how to cook them

When I make them they taste like 'hockey pucks'. I am off red meat need some help to make them better.

[huskerlaw]

26. I cooked it on my

George Foreman grill, lol. And then fixed it up like a normal hamburger. It definitely requires sauce of some sort...ketchup, mustard, bbq sauce, etc.

[LeftyMom]

28. Just warm them in a pan

If you're a meat person you're probably cooking them too long. You don't have to cook them to death like a meat burger, as soon as they are warm through they're good to eat, if you keep cooking you get dry, rubbery nastiness.

Edit: and the more "fixins" the better. I like mine with veganaise, bbq sauce, onions and sprouts on toast. Eating out I get them with grilled mushrooms, grilled onions and lettuce.

[AlCzervik]

31. you can cook them in a small pan for a few minutes a side

if you put a lid on it the moisture will stay in. I microwave mine.

[serryjw]

34. a LID!

What a clever idea! I have never nuked them...are they better?

[ronzo]

15. Boca rocks.

The "flame grilled" boca burgers are tasty.
:toast:

[nytemare]

16. They aren't bad, I will say they need some sort of sauce though

I usually put a bit of bbq on them. :)

[loudestchick]

17. The Parmesan Ranch Chic Patties taste good on a bun.

The boca smoked "sausage" is very good...especially w/ saurkraut.

[miss_kitty]

19. evil Kraft shite since 2000

and Kraft and Nabisco (triscuit, Oreos) and owned by Philip Morris, which takes the money you give them to finance the peddling of tobacco to foreign countries and children, and to fund the neocons.

May I suggest Gardenburger? Very good, and the flame broiled flavour is very burger-like.

[Deja Q]

20. I liked them until I started getting... uh... ill. (allergic reaction)

Don't ask for details, but I will say it's the opposite of :puke:

[legally blonde]

22. I love Boca

yummy! Especially the "cheeseburger" kind. :9

[fishwax]

35. I prefer Amy's Organics

Her Chicago and Texas burgers are both very good, though I like Boca Burgers too. I also like Boca's chicken products.

[AntiCoup2K4]

37. I used to eat Boca Burgers until Kraft/Philip Morris bought them.

I started eating them rather than Gardenburgers because they had far less carbs. Not a total vegetarian here, but I'm working on reducing meat at least.

There is a third alternative, at least at the Costco stores here in the Pacific Northwest. I forget the brand name but they're garlic & portabella mushroom flavored burgers and they blow away both Boca's and Gardenburgers. They'e a bit on the greasy side, but I think it's olive oil, so at least that's "good grease'. Not sure if anybody else sells them - haven't seen them yet in any other stores.

BTW, it seems Costco has stopped carrying Boca Burgers locally. Too bad that's not the case with all Phillip Morris products.