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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:06 AM
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Freeper calls my co-worker a fornicator
after he said that he lived with his girlfriend.

Wife of freeper says, "oh John, not you, no..."

I wasn't in the room - or I would have said - well, so did I, you dumb fuck! (as well as some other choice words)

Get your judging ass on up to "heaven" so us "fornicators" can just enjoy life. Where the hell is the rapture when you need it?

:grr:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:09 AM
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1. Does freeper have sex with his wife for reproduction or sexual pleasure?
If it's merely for sexual pleasure, he's a sinner. One must be completely pure in flesh, or surely the rotting of the spirit will commence. /sarcasm off
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:09 AM
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2. That kind of self-righteousness pisses me off.
Just like this so-called "friend" of mine: She saw me in church, eight months pregnant (eighteen years ago, and I was single), and said, "I wasn't aware you had gotten married." I said I hadn't. She wrinkled up her nose in disgust and said primly, "If you're having a bastard, I'm afraid I can't offer you congratulations."

Yeah. Hypocrite. The only differences between her and me were that I only slept with ONE guy and my contraception failed.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 AM
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4. did you slap her?
The nerve of some people!
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 AM
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8. geez! You should have said that to her pious little face!!!
oh well, hindsight, ya know. Usually, when it actually happens, it's so shocking--the fatheaded rudeness, I mean--that ya can't think of anything to say at all!


I can't stand these people.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:14 AM
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9. Should have said
would you rather I had an abortion?
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:20 AM
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14. My response would have been
"The only bastard here is the one standing in front of me."
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:23 AM
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17. That reminds me of a friend of mine who's father was killed in a semi
accident. The truck had rolled over after leaving the road, and he was killed instantly in CA. He went to the funeral, then returned to AZ to get back to work. He had had a rocky relationship with his father, and it haunted him that he didn't have the chance to clear things up before the untimely death.

He went to his church, and after one of the services, asked the preacher about his father's possible fate after the death. The preacher asked if his father had "found and accepted Christ as his Savior". My friend answered he didn't know the answer to that.

The preacher then said, "I am sorry to tell you your father is most likely burning in hell at this moment". My friend quit work three days later, and we never saw him again...:) So much for this particular "christian" preacher. I saw him a few months later in one of the local stores, and gave him a vociferous piece of my mind, and explained to him in no uncertain terms, that hypocrites were pretty well guaranteed a place in the hell he spoke of, regardless of the title they hold in the religious community.

I am sorry to hear you had to go through what you did at the hands of a fool. Too bad her judgmental attitude was merely a cover-up for her own foolish behavior in her life. Apparently, up to that point, she never had learned that love and compassion; understanding and empathy; are core points of Christianity....:)
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:14 PM
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54. So, simply NOT KNOWING...
...whether or not a family member has been "saved" is enough to damn them to hell. Is that what I'm to understand?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:39 PM
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63. In essence, that is what this preacher was saying.....
I DO NOT agree with him; as far as I'm concerned, he was a buffoon and a fool.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 AM
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18. How did she know what kind of person your kid would grow up to be?
Sort of presumptious on her part, isn't it?

:evilgrin:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:06 PM
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31. "Bastards" are nothing to be ashamed of.
A "bastard" conquered England.:)
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:58 PM
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41. Had this person been male,
My response would have been something along the lines of, "well, I wouldn't have congratulated your mother either," before I regained my self control and simply turned away.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:11 AM
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3. I HATE the holier-than-thou attitude
Matthew 7:3
"And why do you look at the splinter in your brother's eye, and not notice the beam which is in your own eye?"
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 AM
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5. Ooh - that's good.
I was going to try to find some kind of Bible reference to send him back to his hole.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 AM
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6. the litany of cuss words that would have flowed
from my lips would have given truck drivers pause.:evilgrin:
just to make sure i was not misunderstood --- wouldn't want to have that.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:16 AM
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10. That's exactly what would have happened if I was there.
It would not be pretty.

Motherfucker. :grr:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 AM
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7. It's funny that they have no problem judging people
Judge not...ect. It's almost human nature to "judge" a little, but for the "holier than thou" types, they seem to live for it.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:17 AM
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11. Nothing wrong with fornication.
It's marital sex that's overrated.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:19 AM
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12. Keyrist. On the right-wing side of our family,
We have two kids who were conceived out of wedlock. Only one of them married. The other one we suspect is a lesbian.

And yet, each time I'm with them, they piss and moan about the immorality of minorities, the Democrats and oh, how good a private school upbringing is.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:19 AM
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13. fornicate off
:P
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:22 AM
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15. oh, shit. I think I found my next "conversation" with him.
Casually bring up that I lived with my wife-to-be before we were married. He spouts the same crap, and I respond with

(deadpan) Fornicate off.

Thanks sniffa!!!
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:22 AM
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16. I had an idiot say something like that to me once
She was a co-worker and asked if Will and I are married. I said no, and she asked if we lived together. I said yes, and she said, "Oh, so you advocate for that kind of lifestyle?" and I said, "I'm not an advocate for anything, but living with your sweetie kind of sells itself, don't you think?" She didn't know whether to shit or go blind. Later she was laid off and about three weeks after that she called to tell me she was pregnant and to ask if she could add her baby to her COBRA benefits, since she wasn't married and the father had no interest in putting his baby on his bennies.

Nice.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:28 AM
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21. LOL!
She didn't know whether to shit or go blind.

LMFAO!

I've not heard that before, but I assume it describes an apoplectic fit.
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 AM
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19. Uh, according to the King James Bible online dictionary...
...here is what it means!

FORNICATOR

FORN'ICATOR, n.

1. An unmarried person, male or female, who has criminal conversation with the other sex; also, a married man who has sexual commerce with an unmarried woman. See Adultery.

2. A lewd person.

3. An idolater.

http://av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/fornicator.html


"Always remember, when you point the finger, four of them are pointing back at you." -- Floyd Hand, Lakota spiritual leader


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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:27 AM
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20. what is a "criminal conversation?" n/t
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:40 AM
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22. Sounds kinda intriguing, doesn't it?
;)
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:00 PM
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28. I think the root of it is here, Bob...enjoy...
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bobbobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:56 AM
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25. actually i think only 3 would be pointing back at me
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:54 PM
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40. Depends on how you hold your thumb when you point.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:02 PM
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44. Can you show me how to point and have the thumb pointing at me?
Souneds interesting.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:40 AM
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23. I would say that I'm a fornicator and damn proud of it...better than
being a sexually uptight, rigid, moralist who can't manage to get it up any more.

B-)
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:41 AM
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24. Will and I aren't married, but we've lived together for 10 years
I absolutely love nothing more than getting grilled by someone who thinks that our relationship is somehow their business. "When are you two getting married?" "Why haven't you two gotten married?" "Do you have an open relationship or something?"

My boss of three years is an Evangelical Xian, but not the evil kind. She keeps a Bible in her office and occasionally talks about her church activities (which are numerous- she goes four or five times a week!), and she very occasionally shares her faith. I know she's a religious lady, she knows I'm an atheist living in sin, and yet she somehow restrains herself from asking any questions or making any comments. Once, when Will sent me some flowers, she said, "I wish you two would get married," I told her if we ever did, we'd have her conduct the ceremony. She seemed to like that.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:57 AM
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26. i've been shacking up for years
and i don't think i've heard anyone comment on it. :shrug:

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:00 PM
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42. That's bec. you live in heathen Mass-where people mind their own business
ironically, MA has the lowest divorce rate. And lowest teenage pregnancy rate. Seems those moral value red states have a harder time practicing what they preach.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:11 PM
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53. sinner! fornicator!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:59 AM
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27. Heh heh
I'd be so tempted to say "Yeah, I was. I was a MAJOR fornicator. In fact, I thought it was quite fun! I feel so sorry for people who don't know the sheer pleasure of being major-league fornicators. In fact, um....I have to go home now."

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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:03 PM
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29. my coworker was so caught off guard
he didn't even connect "fornicator" with fornication.

He just said, "yeah, I guess so"

:)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:05 PM
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30. i reccomend going in the crazy direction
go wiLd eyed and start taLking about fornication... maybe touch yourseLf... ask about his/her wife/husband and if they'd Like to spice up their marriage.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:08 PM
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32. he and wife were both there
that would have been good.

I can see her now, fainting at the thought!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:10 PM
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33. if you reaLLy need to up the ante
bring their kids into the equation... if that's too far, then toys and asking one to fiLm. pick the guy though - that shouLd be more faint worthy.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:40 PM
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34. *tears rolling down cheeks* Stop! Stop! LOL
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:46 PM
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35. Fornicator - Republican
Fornicator - Republican
Fornicator - Republican
Fornicator - Republican
Fornicator - Republican
Fornicator - Republican

Which is the foulest insult? Why, republican, of course. Call them "republican" in a voice dripping with scorn.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:49 PM
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36. HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT
Tell your manager that the named employee has created a hostile work environment with his/her religious proclamations. That will get them shut up real fast and put the boss on notice that they are liable for damager. Tell them your productivity is being affected.


http://www.osc.gov/ppp.htm

Prohibited Personnel Practices
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:21 PM
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37. Quick question - Why does it matter to you?
So many people seem to have a bizarre need for "approval" from Freepers. Does it really matter to you, even a little, that the moron disagrees with your lifestyle? Are you harmed by the fact that he thinks it's wrong for you to live with your girlfriend? I'd think it was wrong for you to live with your girlfriend too if your girlfriend were my daughter, but if my opinion is incapable of changing the situation, what harm is done by it? Why would you take offense?

Personally, I don't take offense when stupid ideas flow from idiots. As a married bisexual man, I frequently hear "OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GAY!" from fundie types who assumed that I was straight when they learned that I was married. My standard response is "No, I'm only half-gay". There is rarely any conversation beyond that.

The one time I did have a fundie woman go off on be for being bi, a "fornicator", and an "adulterer", and that our "kind of people" should be eradicated. I simply recited the words of Jesus himself back to her: "He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone". Not expecting a Biblical comeback, she shut up and scurried off back to whatever rathole she crawled out of.

There is no cure for idiocy. Just ignore them.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:44 PM
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38. Good points, Xithras
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 01:45 PM by lady lib
This is another example of cherry picking the Bible since so many of these judgmental "Christians" ignore Christ's admonition against divorce. Matthew 19 verse 9 Jesus replied, "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:50 PM
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39. Approval??? I have no problem with him disagreeing. I don't like it
when people tell me what to do. Or that I'm going to hell because I don't think the way they do. In your example, you did not ignore them either.

what's the diff, here?

(and it wasn't me)
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:15 PM
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46. The diff is that you care
Look at your original message, and the replies of most of the posters here. I see anger, bitterness, and calls for vengeance.

When a small child spills his milk, should the parent get mad and scream at him? No, because he doesn't know any better and can't help himself. When an autistic person accidentally knocks over an expensive 150 year old vase, should we cry for vengeance? No, because we understand that autistics are incapable of fine motor control. The same goes for fundie/freeper types. They are incapable of having rational, open-minded thought processes, and to grow angry at them for simply repeating the same drivel that they have heard all of their lives is pointless and silly.

Oh, and if you reread your own original post, you'll notice that the fundie never told your friend what to do. He simply expressed his feelings about the situation. Idiotic drivel from an idiot. Live with it, ignore it, and quit caring so dang much what the Freepers think about you.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:20 PM
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47. He/they can think what they want.
No one asked for his input, and it wasn't welcome.
If he had called my black coworker a n*, I should just ignore him?
He needs to keep his mouth shut - and if no one tells him to shut his mouth, he never will, thinking it's OK to spout what he spouts (as he has been doing since - probably forever.

His kind of talk is not welcome in the workplace, nor should it be accepted.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:24 PM
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48. He was venting, as were many of us responding.
What better place to vent than among those who will understand and commiserate?
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:18 PM
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59. If it doesn't matter, why are you posting?
or why were intrigued to read this post in the first place?

Not being confrontational, just wondering. You bring up some good points, but I think it does matter to you, greatly. You make an effort to trap the idiots at their own biblical game.

:)
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:02 PM
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43. YOU need one of these Rapture Coffee Mugs!
Graphic:



You can get 'em at http://www.cafepress.com/plaidder

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:06 PM
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45. The link didn't work.
:shrug:
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:35 PM
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55. DUH. Here's the correct link
http://www.cafepress.com/plaidadder

That should do it,

The Plaid Adder
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:57 PM
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49. I call myself one in my profile!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=143598


Holy fuck, I'm about to hit 2000 posts and didn't even know it!
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. heh heh
That's good.

Keep on fornicatin'!!
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:06 PM
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52. damn right.
I need to pick up on my alchemy and galvanism, though. I've totally slacked off on reanimating corpses in recent months.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:59 PM
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51. The Rapture can't come soon enough for this gal
Unfortunately the Rapture isn't technically in the bible - go figure
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:51 PM
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56. Someone needs to clue her in that fornicating is - premarital and
extramarital - is just as common among born-again types as the rest of the population. It is a fact. Just look at the divorce rate - an indirect indicator of extramarital screwing - if you are in any doubt.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:09 PM
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57. Is this lady divorced?
Is so, she lied to God the first time. Living with your girlfriend at will still get you into heaven. :)


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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:10 PM
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58. or a divorcee'?
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:08 PM
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60. How come nobody ever calls me cool stuff like that?
The worst I've ever heard was "You, you, LIBERALS..." like it was the ultimate slander.

My wife has a terribly quick toungue -- I've seen her eviscerate people for saying inappropriate stuff like this.

If I'd been in your co-worker's situation I probably would have laughed, or maybe stood there in sunned silence like I'd just witnessed a swarm of bees flying out of the person's mouth.

If I'd been John and I had my wits together quick enough I'd say something totally deadpan:

"Oh no, no, dear. We're not fornicators. We only sleep together."

It would be so funny watching them try to wrap their heads around that.


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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:05 PM
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61. kick for the night crew...
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:32 PM
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62. Since they know everything send them this letter with a few questions:
Dear Freeper couple,

Thank you for doing so much to educate me regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I'll try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding me that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Sincerely,

Your name here


I loathe sanctimonious people like that.


Laura
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