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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:00 PM
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Poll question: Would you report a fish that wasn't properly cared for?
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 07:05 PM by Cobalt Violet
I know of a place with a fish in it's tank not being cared for at all. No new water, no food, no filter, nothing to sustain life. They are bottom feeders and haven't die yet. Should I report it to a animal cruelty agency? It has been living this way for months.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:13 PM
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1. Shameless kick.
I just want more votes.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:17 PM
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2. You got my yes vote...
Go ahead and report it.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:18 PM
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3. Well, how many have died in that environment?
Should we call the bacteria police because someone cleans out an oil storage tank and all the bacteria who live on the oil sludge are killed? I think not! :shrug:
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:28 PM
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6. The fish do have rights.

" If horses, caged birds or fish are owned and kept by an institution, the standards of care outlined in the MSPCA’s Statement of Belief on Responsible Pet Ownership should be applied to the care of these animals;"





http://www.mspca.org/site/pp.asp?c=gtIUK4OSG&b=133246
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:38 AM
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17. bacteria and fish aren't the same thing
fish are living creatures that feel pain. Fish are companion animals that need to be properly cared for. Now if someone cleans out an oil storage tank and dumps it into a river? then yes, call the bacteria police, aka the EPA
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:21 PM
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4. I am an SPCA enforcement officer.
We are totally complaint driven. If you don't report it we probably don't know about it. Make the call. When we put a fence around cattle, tie a dog to a tree or put a fish in a tank we accept responsibility for that animals' well-being.

The righteous man regardeth his flock, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
Acts 12:10
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Medium Baby Jesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:26 PM
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5. Something about your post...
:scared:
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:40 PM
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8. What?
The line I use when some Christian tells me that Genesis gives us dominion over the animals, so we can do whatever we want to or with them?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:10 AM
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14. With dominion comes obligation
I am not real good at scripture, but in the Bible God repeatedly punishes rulers who fail their people. So if you fail to properly take care of your animals, it is a sin.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:39 PM
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7. It's been bothering me.
I would hate to have to live in nothing but my own waste.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:41 PM
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9. Just call. nt.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:50 PM
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10. You could also mention.....
...to the owner that you noticed he/she has been having a hard time caring for the fish and offer to take them, if that's feasible.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:53 PM
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11. a few questions
I've got a few questions about this fish and tank.

How big is the tank? How often do you see the fish and do you know what kind it is? Is the water clear, cloudy, green or brownish?



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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:00 AM
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12. So, have you called? nt.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:59 AM
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13. I don't know where you live or if it is too cold, but . . .
Maybe you could ask for the fish and let them go in the wild, in a lake or stream. They might get eaten but at least they would be living a natural life.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:32 AM
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16. Releasing them into the wild would be irresponsible.
They may harbor some disease that the native fish are not immune to and decimate the population. There are laws against releasing non-native species.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:25 PM
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18. But . . . but . . . it was Eddie Haskell's idea.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:24 PM
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19. And then you wind up with this...
http://floridafisheries.com/Fishes/Exotic%20List.html

These are all of the non-native fish that have established themselves in Florida over the years--from people releasing them in the wild. Thirteen of the top fifteen in the "reproducing populations" list are all South American cichlids.

Numbers 18 through 20 are Loricariid catfish--plecos--that are commercially bred in ponds in Florida, and which got moved from pond to waterway during one of the numerous hurricanes they have down there.

There is also a known population of this fish:



The Mother of Snails catfish should only be sold to people who have a license for it. This is a dangerous fish because of the scutes. These large bony growths run down both sides of the fish, they are razor sharp and this animal grows to three feet in length--and as with most large catfish, it can be quick when the mood strikes. In short, this fish can fuck you up. It is a snail-eating cat that will also take smaller fishes.
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:26 AM
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15. just call
it is a life

CB
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