"Will and Grace" has yet another special guest star this week.

[terrya]

Isn't that a sign that the show has "jumped the shark"? Maybe a mercy killing might be in order??

[Wickerman]

1. I don't see it much these days

catch some late night in syndication. Is Grace pregnant? Its seemed like she has drastically changed clothing style and spends a lot of time carrying stuff. Might be my imagination.

And, yeah, the show seems a little flat. All the guests can't be good.

[sundog]

2. yes. It has jumped the shark.

Let it die a quick death. Please.

I don't like that show. Not much at all really.

I don't think you can equate being gay with liking "Will & Grace."

There. I said it. It's out. That's a load off. :7

[Duncan Grant]

3. I haven't watched in years.

Did Will ever get kissed or l**d? :hi:

[terrya]

4. He's been kissed plenty of times by Grace.

But I don't think that's what you had in mind. :-)

:hi:

T

[Duncan Grant]

7. That doesn't count.

How does an handsome attorney remain celibate in Manhattan? Talk about fairy tales! :evilgrin:

[Bouncy Ball]

19. I've always wondered that myself.

I mean, look at him. Totally hot. He's an attorney. He's smart. He lives in Manhattan. Did I mention he's hot? He has a beautiful voice. He's well-dressed. Funny, in a self-deprecating kind of way. NOT snotty at all.

There's NO way he'd have such a hard time finding a date in real life.

No way.

[Duncan Grant]

22. And I bet he smells as good as a thunderstorm.

Total husband material that guy... ;)

[terrya]

24. Will looks good at first...until he opens his mouth.

This man is every self absorbed, snotty, attitude queen I've ever encountered. Yeah, I can kind of understand why he doesn't have a husband...WAY too demanding standards.

:hi

[sundog]

5. of course not

we wouldn't want to upset the public's fragile sensitivities by shattering the reinforced stereotype of the castrated gay male :eyes:

:hi:

[JimmyJazz]

6. Gay people kiss? Really? I dinnae know that. BTW - did

you Terrya is gay? He told me just this afternoon. I know...I was just as shocked as you. :silly:

[Duncan Grant]

8. Ain't it the truth.

Will wouldn't be so tense if I wrote the scripts for "Will & Grace" - if you catch my drift. :hi: :thumbsup:

[sundog]

10. lol

I had a really great idea I was gonna pitch ya, but O8) O8) O8) O8)

[Cadence]

9. No way! I still love it! n/t

[Lex]

11. I haven't watched it in 2 seasons. Definitely it has jumped the shark.

The constant special guest stars are big sign of that--you are right.

[Mabus]

12. I think the official death knell

is the appearance of relatives. Sometimes, like on "Cosby" or "The Brady Bunch" it is a young child. Sometimes it is a pseudo-relative ala "Happy Days" and the Fonz becoming the show, unlike his early pop-ins when the show revolved more around "Ritchie." Although more recently it is the beginning of semi-regular family members showing up. On "Friends" it was Rachel's sisters that starting popping up out of the woodwork.

New relatives = death knell. Anyway, that's my theory.
:dunce:

[sundog]

13. lmao - you also forgot moving to a new house / apartment

:toast:

[Mabus]

15. You reminded of the "group trips"

you know the entire cast (regardless of age, financial situation or how well their characters are liked by all the other characters) manage to go on vacation together.

:crazy:

[sundog]

18. Brady Bunch = Grand Canyon & Hawaii... canned laughter follows to

outdoor locations

[Mabus]

23. LMAO

Yep, that's part of the formula.

[Placebo]

14. Is it wrong for me to be gay and not like that show?

That, and 'Queer as Folk'...and 'Queer Eye'...and pretty much all of "gay" television. :shrug:

[sundog]

17. I agree, man

It's pretty much all shit.

Foreign films seem to be the only flicks that break stereotypes rather effortlessly. I even saw a Turkish film that was a more wholesome look at gay life than any of the shit that this country has put out. I found that particularly interesting, given the supposed higher level of "gay stigma" in Turkish culture.

Every romantic comedy that comes out in the states gotta have some flaming queen on the sideline.

Just cause you put a raging "flamer" in a flick doesn't mean we've made any progress. It simply means the definition of "gay" is reinforced to the "masses." It then becomes harder for the public to comprehend anyone who doesn't fit into that little stereotype glory-hole.

Stereotypes get me all :grr:

[Placebo]

20. Well thank ALLAH I've found someone else who agrees with me...

FINALLY.

All of this "gay" television has the masses fooled into thinking that "Hey! I'm okay with gays!" but it's just reinforcing the stereotypes. Blech.

[HeyManThatsCool]

16. F yeah it has jumped the shark, Twice

It's like the love boat of guest stars now

[RoyGBiv]

21. Is that still on?

When Grace got "married," it was over.

[Borgnine]

25. I can tell you how that show is going to end.

Will is going to realize he's straight and marry Grace.

Just wait and see.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

26. I think he will fall for Jack instead lol .

Or Jack will end up " straight " - now that would be something LOL . Or Grace would really be a lesbian - I have no idea . I never see the show on anymore and I really liked it .