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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:04 PM
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How many people here hate SUVs...(Pic heavy)
but think something like this is shit hot?












This is not at all a judgement call...just something I find curious...:D

Granted, I doubt anyone who owns one of these today would be driving it more than like...5 miles a month...but didn't these cars get only like a quarter-mile a gallon? ;)
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:08 PM
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1. But…but…but those cars are works of art!
They don't make them like that anymore!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:16 PM
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2. . . . and a weekend indulgence not a means of transport
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:18 PM
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3. don't like SUVS
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 09:19 PM by tigereye
I want this

whoops http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/ad_1960_section.html

Sort of looks like the one Harold in Harold and Maude made into a hearse.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:24 PM
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4. thank god
the shit detroit put out in the 50's and 60 and 70's was lucky to get 100K on it without basically having to replace every piece. If the shitbox wasn't garaged you had a foot brake, flintstone style, by year six or so. Somewhere around 60K you had to keep a toolbox in the trunk 'cause you were going to be repairing the shitbox every few hundred miles.

But I'd take car number two home with me anyhow.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:31 PM
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5. I hate SUVs and I think these cars
are dreadful. They're the cars of my childhood, and I wasn't impressed with them then, and I'm not now.

Thank god for the Japanese or we'd still be driving such crap today.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:58 PM
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6. I do
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 10:01 PM by baldguy
But there's no comparison. SUVs are modern vehicles. For style, efficiency, usability and design you should compare them to other modern vehicles. If you want to criticize the cars in your post, then imagine that one of these was in half of Americas driveways:



In the 50s and 60s
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:09 PM
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8. That's just it...I really wasn't criticizing
(I'm not much of a criticizer...except of rubbish music. ;):D)

I think those cars look pretty cool...'snot really my thing, but whatever. I just think it's funny when people go on about SUVs but love classic cars. It's sort of a 'ya had to be there' kinda thing. ;)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:16 PM
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12. Because SUVs are an easy target.
It's as greast Liberal Guilt outlet: the SUV.

Basically, the difference between a Hummer and a Prius is a matter of degrees. All motor vehicles are a huge burden on the environment and on natural resources, and take their toll on the practicalities in society.

The way I look at it, I can fit six protestors and their placards in my 4Runner, for when Dubya comes to visit.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:58 AM
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15. But degree DOES matter
For some value of X, the planet may be able to handle X tons of pollution but not 2X tons.

Like the Buddha said, moderation.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:39 AM
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18. Ah, but the Buddha also said:
"Humans will consume all fossil fuels in time. Whether is is in five years or ten matters not, as the same amountof greenhouse gasses and other toxins will be release into the ecosystem. The Prius oxcart and the Excursion oxcart are virtually the same, on a long enough timeline".

That Buddha...what a visionary!
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:12 AM
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21. That was magnificent.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:00 PM
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7. FUCK YEAH
especially the last two cars. SWEEEEEET. Not so much the first two.

Awesome.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:12 PM
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9. mine used to get 14mpg on the highway
did about 140 and low 12's in the 1/4..

400+ horsepower, it was my daily driver and a huge, huge pain in the ass.

i wish i still had it.



face it folks, global warming, and peak oil will happen no matter how much is shouted from the rooftops.

i love powerful cars, and you can make them run on alcohol pretty easily.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:12 PM
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10. I love the new Mustang...
because it looks like the old one.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:13 PM
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11. jeez, we should send them to iraq.
They're better armored than Humvees, probably get better mileage, and definitely costs Joe Taxpayer less.

Who needs 2 tons of metal to cart around a 150 pound human through the suburbs? :shrug:
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:16 AM
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13. Self-indulgent mornin' kick
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:22 AM
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14. Those cars were created in a time when gas was cheap and big cars...
...were the norm.

Most folks who own those types of cars usually aren't driving them for everyday use but special occasions on the weekend. And as one poster said - they are works of art.


I hate these behemoth SUVs that guzzle gas and are just damn ugly. There is no reason these cars even need to exist except for extreme circumstances.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:16 AM
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16. I'd love to have a pristine '57 Chevy. Ah, the memories.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:20 AM
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17. A sea-foam green '59 Coupe De Ville ragtop is a thing of beauty...
...whereas SUVs are hideous.

Aesthetic propriety is a far higher calling than ecological propriety. After all, as Wittgenstein noted: "der ethik und der esthetik sind eins."
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:44 AM
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19. Give me an old classic any day
those cars were so heavy that you would walk away from any accident. Who needed airbags! As one comedian put it, you'd just hose off the dash and drive it away. Today's cars are so flimsy that they crumple into garbage after a 15 mph collision.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:53 AM
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20. Well, as one who collects old cars, yes, I think old iron is da bomb
And what is suprising is that a lot of those cars, as inefficient as they were, got gas mileage that was as good or better than a lot of the big SUVs that you see today.

And yes, I drive my old beasties around on occasison. Worst thing that you can do to a car is to let it sit, thus I take mine out for a run once a week or so, weather and time permitting. And yes, it is mighty fine cruising in these cars, driving my '49 DeSoto Deluxe is like taking the living room couch out for a spin, it is that smooth. What is even more fun is the respect you get on the road. Even SUVs get out of the way, for they know that if they hit the old iron, they'll lose.

I'd estimate that I drive about a hundred miles a month in all four of my old vehicles, so the impact from my habit isn't that great, certainly far less than the regular use of one SUV. Quite frankly, it is probably less than the impact imposed by the regualar use of a Honda Civic.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:42 AM
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22. the car show
several years ago i was vacationing in Lake George, NY and they happened to be having an antique car show ...

old cars, mostly from the 50s and 60s just kept driving up and down the main street ... i guess it was a really big deal ... people had come from all over the country to see this ...

after about an hour, we had to leave ... i literally could not breathe ... the air was filled with a kind of blue-gray smoke ... i'm assuming all the cars were using leaded gasoline ... is that how the air really used to smell?

the cars in those pictures might be nice for some to look at, but i'm glad they are rarely seen on the roads ... and SUV's ?? hate 'em ...

when will people start taking pride in using fewer natural resources again? and when will they start respecting air quality again?

how did we let Madison Avenue derail us like that ???
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