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Sun Jun-05-05 08:02 AM
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Poll question: Does God exist? |
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By God I mean something supernatural, not some scientific force that connects us all.
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:17 AM
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1. I don't know about God..... but Dog is my co-pilot |
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:20 AM
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:22 AM
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First, "God" (not my preferred word but oh well) is all around you. Just look outside and you'll see it.
Secondly, science has supported many parts of religion. Karma, for example, goes hand in hand with Newton's Third Law: To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Eternal existence has been supported by the Law of Conservation of Energy, and the Law of Conservation of Matter. Even in math, you can see that ALL numbers have a one in their denominator, so there is a common element in all numbers. Also, every possible line on a coordinate graph is really just a transformation of every other line, translation: we are all the same in the end, but we are also different.
To be concise, "God" exists, all you have to do is look around you and within yourself to see it.
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:48 AM
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7. The fish discovers the ocean |
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Sun Jun-05-05 10:42 AM
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Merely by posing the question 'does God exist?' one is almost proving that He does - however, that reveals nothing about His nature, merely that He is.
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:23 AM
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4. of course I do, now get your ass to church. |
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:28 AM
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Just a stranger on a bus. Trying to make his way home.
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:06 PM
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31. No one calling on the phone |
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(except the Pope maybe in Rome).
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Sun Jun-05-05 08:31 AM
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But if God does exist, I highly doubt it's in any of the ways modern religion would have you believe.
But really, I just don't know.
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:00 AM
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8. I take it, then, that you are talking only about a concept |
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of God, which of course isn't God but is a concept.
In the Native American religions, especially the Lakota, all things are sacred, all things God. In Sufism, everything is God ("There is no reality save the One"). This concept includes all scientific laws known and those yet to be discovered. So in this concept, God is everything we know and everything we don't know-as such I would deem that being supernatural, as God goes into dimensions many people are not aware of.
The Buddhists believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that all is illusion, that suffering is caused by desire, to end suffering end attachments..and yet...The Dalai Lama once told a group of visiting Sufis "In Sufism, everything is. In Buddhism, nothing is. Same thing, no difference."
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:31 AM
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I don't know. And niether do you.
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:20 PM
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why you prefer the Hurricane to the Spitfire, but I don't.
(just kidding -- I'm agnostic too -- but curious about your choice of WWII fighters. I was partial to the twin fuselage P-38 Lightening myself)
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:39 PM
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36. Has to do with many things... |
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It's a cool name. It was the second best British fighter in the Battle of Britain... but it was built in larger numbers, was more forgiving of a inexperienced pilot, and was needed... nothing wrong with the 'Spit', but there weren't enough of them.
Think of it this way: not every Dem can be a Clinton, Kerry, or Dean... the party needs the second stringers and back benchers too.
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Tue Jun-07-05 12:06 PM
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37. Good Explanation! n/t |
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:34 AM
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10. i'm not sure sure a greater power exists that can be boxed & labeled in |
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:39 AM
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12. Mother Nature is my God. |
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All this organized religious stuff is complete bullshit. I'm soooo fucking sick of it all. God, Allah whatever..blah, blah, blah. How many lives have been snuffed out in the name of "GOD"? Just My Opinion.
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:41 AM
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13. if i have found any sort of synergy beyond language, it has been in nature |
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:36 AM
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11. The existance or absence of God has absolutely no effect on my life. |
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Religion, however, is something about which I have may opinions--few of them complimentary.
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:41 AM
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Sun Jun-05-05 09:48 AM
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Sun Jun-05-05 10:39 AM
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15. The Force surrounds and binds us all |
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It is in the rock. The tree. Yes. I put doubtful.
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:33 AM
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19. It certainly does. Some of us are just in the habit of calling it God. |
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Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 11:49 AM by Seabiscuit
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:38 AM
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21. If there is a God, I don't think of it as an old bearded man |
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controlling everybody's destiny, carrying a staff.
I think of it more as a continuum of energy/knowlege.
I could be wrong, though!
Truth is, nobody really knows.
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:43 AM
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24. That's exactly the way I see it. A unifying continuum of energy/knowledge |
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Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 11:45 AM by Seabiscuit
...0f which everything in the universe, including us, are all a part.
It doesn't matter to me in the least that the notion isn't susceptible to scientific proof/knowledge. Science is a very useful but very limited *human* tool.
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Sun Jun-05-05 12:06 PM
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25. Well, energy never dies |
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That is scientific. The just changing forms part would be where I have the question. As in death, would the changing forms mean a soul, or would it mean that the entropy of the body gives energy to other life.
:shrug:
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Sun Jun-05-05 12:18 PM
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26. Well, we don't know that "energy never dies" for certain either. |
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It simply never dies during our lifetimes. We merely imagine what may happen in the universe someday in the very distant future. All matter and energy could conceivably completely disappear forever.
From a scientific standpoint, all one can trace is the physical energy transforming from the living body into the decaying dead body and all the transformations in matter and energy that occur, while still preserving an equal amount of matter + energy.
I think spiritual matters involve more than physics, chemistry and biology.
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Sun Jun-05-05 10:45 AM
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:29 AM
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18. I believe that some higher power created all of this. |
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But whether or not it's a Christian God is debatable. We're more than the flesh and bones that make up our bodies. We have a soul, conscience, whatever you want to label it. You don't get that without something greater having a hand in it.
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:34 AM
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20. My God is nonsectarian. Not to belittle others' beliefs. But we sure as |
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Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 12:00 PM by Seabiscuit
hell didn't create the universe.
I don't subscribe to any organized religion.
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Sun Jun-05-05 11:42 AM
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23. I don't think any religion has a corner on the truth. |
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It's the rigid belief in a particular religious dogma that gets so many into trouble. What I've got are ideas.
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:35 AM
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:48 AM
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God is a concept that is either real or a fantasy to most everyone. The word "God" refers to the concept, and if you acknowledge the concept then "it" exists. If you believe or not in the concept of a god, is a whole other question.
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:54 AM
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29. God exists...but God doesn't believe in humanity anymore. |
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:03 PM
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30. Like the invisible pink unicorn... |
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Can't be proved or disproved, but unnecessary and fantastic.
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:08 PM
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32. God exists in the hearts and minds of human beings |
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Is there anything more real than what we feel and what we think?
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:15 PM
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33. The answer to your question is here: |
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Mon Jun-06-05 10:25 PM
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35. There's no God, or babies wouldn't die. |
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