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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:46 PM
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Poll question: Your music collection: Bands or Solo Artists
What do you have the most of?
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:50 PM
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1. I think pretty much half my collection is from these three:
Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, and Björk...
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:56 PM
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2. Solo artists turn me off
It must be the super-ego thing.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:17 PM
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3. Bands, defiantly bands.
:7
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:19 PM
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4. I don't know how to answer this.
Does the John Coltrane Quartet count as a band or a solo artist? The Basie Band? :shrug:
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:24 PM
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5. bands marketed as solo artists
Joni Mitchell
Jeff Beck
Sam Phillips
Dar Williams
Elvis Costello
John Coltrane
Miles Davis
etc.

Typically they have backing bands on their albums/cds, even though they aren't known as groups much (excepting The Jeff Beck Group from early days.)

The only solo artist who springs immediately to mind is Leo Kottke from my collection.



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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:30 PM
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6. are you me?
except for Jeff Back, you just named some of my very fave artists. :scared:
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:36 PM
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7. nope - a very poor imitation at best
I know you have a jazz radio program - I know very litle about good jazz, but I've started listening to Coltrane in the past year or so, so I'm learning!

I added Miles as another jazz "name" who didn't really do anything solo. As far as I know, always worked with other great players.

I did read your post though, about not knowing how to vote on this poll, and had the same thought. So I made up my own answer.

:hi:

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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:37 PM
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8. I was just talking about Sam Phillips, not 5 minutes ago
:hi:

and Joni is my hero.

do you like Kirsty MacColl?
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:44 PM
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10. I am not familiar with Kirsty MacColl
I've heard the name, so maybe heard a song or two, but that would be it.

About Joni, you said I didn't really need to buy the new album, but you did put me in mind of Joni on DVD, so I bought 4 of those instead. THANKS MUCH!

I gave another listen to Travelogue, some of the songs sounded better this time, some still don't do anything for me. Definitely not my favorite of hers. I could never name a favorite, just a non-favorite. :D


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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:48 PM
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12. you should check Kirsty out
I bet you would like her. Kite would be a good place to start.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:59 PM
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13. I think I would
I just listened to most of the song snippets for Tropical Brainstorm (at CD Universe) and that sounds pretty good. They didn't have any snippets for Kite.

Guess I better hie myself to the music store this week.

thank you again.

:hi:

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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:43 PM
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9. What's a "yvr"?
Just wondering...
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:45 PM
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11. the airport abbreviation for
Vancouver (I think)

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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:12 AM
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14. I say
The difference between the rock tradition and the jazz tradition is:

Rockers tend to form bands with their peers. The guys in U2 all grew up in the same neighborhood, went to school together, and when the punk rock bug bit them, they naturally congregated and started doing the music they wanted to do. And there are carloads of bands whose story is substantially the same. Maybe they break up, and later get into new groups (viz. Audioslave), but they're largely still looking within their own age cohort and stylistic arena.

The jazz tradition is, you get good enough on your horn, you want to go out and play with people, and ideally you'd like to get paid for it. You attempt to come to the attention of an older and wiser (or at least more experienced) musician who will hire you to play in his band. You accumulate gig and recording credits, and frequent flier miles, and work experience, and if and when you think you've got your shit together, you start your own band, drawing on the skills you hopefully learned by observing the dudes that hired you in the first place-- a kind of apprenticeship system. Some jazz musicians (e.g. Miles, Duke) end up practically spawning a dynasty, all the musicians they nurtured and influenced carrying the stylistic torch long after its progenitor's demise...

This is also the rule in bluegrass/old timey (Bela Fleck was Frank Wakefield's banjo player, playing a much more traditional style, before he started doing the weird stuff he does now-- and Wakefield was himself rather eccentric in bluegrass terms) and such rockers as don't act like the typical buddy movie (e.g. Zappa, Jethro Tull).

OTOH, there are also jazz (and bluegrass) ensembles that are proud to be known as bands (e.g. Art Ensemble of Chicago, Weather Report). And there are arguable some where the bandleader is the name on the label, but everybody's contribution is indispensable to the ensemble sound-- I would suggest the Coltrane quartet with Tyner, Garrison and Elvin Jones; Ornette's quartet with Cherry, Haden and Blackwell; the Miles quintet with Shorter, Hancock, Holland and Tony Williams. There are two reasons to think of such bands as "Miles Davis"-- because Miles (or his manager) signed the contracts, which isn't a very good reason, and because Miles himself decides what to play, which may be reason enough.

That said, I prefer bands to solo artists, but I temper it with an understanding of the above-- I consider "Miles Davis" to represent a band, or rather, a bunch of different bands (and I don't collect the records of the ensembles I don't like). I consider Joni Mitchell to be a solo artist, because her early and genuinely solo recordings are just as interesting to me as the jazzbo records with Jaco on 'em, and I've got a bunch of those. I consider Dave Matthews to be a solo artist, because I don't think he's getting the best out of his sidemen, over and above that he has no gift for melody.
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