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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:10 AM
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You know why so much "art" sucks these days?
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 12:15 AM by HEyHEY
I don't I have an idea though.

Anyway, I was thinking about how many people used to STRIVE jsut to read. And they LOVEd the reading. The Irish used to teach each other in ditches. Why? Because they loved it so much, it was like sugar on their brains.
SO they worked hard to learn it all.
I wonder if people today would.
It's just that concept of really caring about art/writing and such.


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:17 AM
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1. Because it is created for specialists instead of the public
Much art today is created to impress art teachers and other artists, and therefore focuses on technical skills which require an artist's background to appreciate. Even artists like Dali or Kahlo, whose art was tricky, could still be appreciated by the general public. There is less and less art like that, at least in the US. Too much art is painted either for casual appreciation, like Thomas Kincaid's pictures, or for a very specialized audience.

Not all art, of course. As an educated, somewhat intelligent person with no real art background, I tend to enjoy a lot of southwest style art, like the stuff in galleries in Santa Fe. I think regional artists are the most accessible without being too simplistic right now.

That's just my crackpot theory. Probably a bad one. But I'll cling to it for now.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:21 AM
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2. I'll tell ya what I think.. this time period will not be remembered for it
s art
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:47 AM
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10. Not two dimensional art, anyway
I think the art of our period is film. The movies we make are our most impressive contribution. Not all movies, obviously. But our special effects, our ability to manipulate emotions through imagery and dialogue and acting, I think are art forms we will be remembered for, as long as there is technology to replay this art.

Ad like art of two hundred or two thousand years ago, movies are made for the general public, and serve all the true functions that art on temple walls and in great public buildings used to serve.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:23 AM
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3. I get it.
Art sucks these days because people used to strive to read.

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?

B-)
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:24 AM
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4. Somebody shot and stuffed your polar bear!
:o
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:39 AM
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8. ha!
Good un!
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:27 AM
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5. Art sucks these days because I haven't been discovered yet.
What's the point of being the world greatest visual artist if nobody knows about you?

Just give it time, this age will be remembered as a high water mark in the world of art history... I just need a little publicity to get started.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:28 AM
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6. Art sucks these days because I haven't been discocered yet.
What's the point of being the world greatest visual artist if nobody knows about you?

Just give it time, this age will be remembered as a high water mark in the world of art history... I just need a little publicity to get started.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:35 AM
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7. The death of subtlety.
For every Warhol, Lichtenstein, Rothko, and Christo, there are at least a thousand poseurs who try to imitate what they see, without coming up with their great idea. Boldness without innovation, and it usually turns out looking like 7th grade art class.

Most artists have lost sight of the use of subtle themes, allusions, and representations. Photographers still do this, but the other visual arts have lost it. And they haven't lost it because of the ability to mechanically reproduce reality. Edward Hopper produced fantastic art by placing objects and expressions in a scene. Technically, his stuff was professional, but on the surface looked like what a talented amateur could get close to making. But he had the knack of putting meaning into his stuff.

However, the reason why art sucks is that no longer do people like Hopper make the kind of stuff that requires the observer to fill in the blanks. They might as well just stand at the corner and hold up a sign with their explanations of what their stuff means. That would free up countless museum couches for better activities, like making love, or taking a nap.
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:40 AM
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9. I think Raymond Chandler summed it up back about 1936
I don't have the actual date written down but I do have the quote.

"There are no vital and significant forms of art; there is only art, and precious little of that. The growth of population has in no way increased the amount, it has merely increased the adeptness with which substitutes can be produced and packaged."
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:55 AM
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11. Too many shitty artists have been coasting on that for too long!
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