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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:43 PM
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"So did you want to come and get your son?"
My poor neighbor kid, he's the little brother of a 14 year old super star soccer player and he himself doesn't play but his parents are all the time with the soccer this and soccer that. So i invite him to go to the movies with my daughter and I today and he's all excited because that means no going to his sisters soccer party, anyhow his moms says "We'll pick him at 4:00pm ok" yup, fine by me, so now it's past 5:30 and he's asked me about 6 times "when is my Mom coming to get me" well i call old Mom she says "Oh, I'm sorry we just got caught up in all the fun, i'll be over to get him no later than 7:00 ok?"---"O'clock?, he's feeling a little hurt and he was worried something happened to you, can't you get here any sooner or better yet why don't you talk to him?" so she says "Oh he can be a bit of a drama queen sometimes. he's fine, we'll see you at 7:00"

And then she fucking hung up! WTF?? He's a good kid, he's been friends with my daughter since we moved in 5 years ago and i've watched how his sister's star has risen in the eyes of her parents but he's kind of nowhere. I feel really bad for him and i feel like kicking his mother's ass. When he's estranged from them 10 years from now i wont be surprised at all.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:44 PM
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1. Poor kid.
That's akways such a sad situation. Hope everything in his life ends up well. :(
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:45 PM
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2. Oh, that poor child.
I can only imagine how he feels - left out, forgotten, not as important.

Thank you for being there for him.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:47 PM
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3. :^( Thank heavens he has you! *hugs*
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:48 PM
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4. Don't let on to the kid about his asshole parents
I'm sure he'll find out in due course, but no need for you to inadvertantly contribute to that. Let him kick back at your place until 7 (or whenever) and feel relaxed, important, wanted.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:49 PM
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5. yeah i wouldn't dare say anything to him about his Mom
unless it was nice. I dont mind him being here at all infact he's having dinner with us but he was actually worried about them and then he figured out right quick that thet were goning to be late.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:49 PM
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6. Spend the rest of
the time telling him how good he is and how much you like having him around. It sounds like the poor guy could use that. Poor, poor kid.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:51 PM
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7. yeah, he's really nice kid, he comes over and tells us *really* bad jokes
right now they're playing Crash Bandicoot on the playstation and having a good time.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:55 PM
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11. You are so kind.
It is often hard when this happens, it used to happen to me on occasion. I always felt so bad for the kid, how must he feel?

He sounds like a good kid. Good for you for helping him out. :hug:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:51 PM
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8. Don't worry.
He'll grow up to be a rock star, or a billionaire software developer, or an artist, while his "superstar" sis is stuck in the mid-life doldrums of the suburbs popping out children, watching her waist grow bigger, and locked into a job she secretly hates. :)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:53 PM
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9. thats funny cuz my husband said almost the same thing
he's away on business and he called, i tell him whats going on and he says "Well isn't just typical"
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:52 PM
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18. Well, HTF do you know?
What, woman is only good for popping out children? No way she can have a bright future?
:spank:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:56 PM
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20. lol, did I say that?
no

:spank:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:36 PM
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25. Why, yes, you did. I fail to see any reason you think
she will be stuck at the job she hates and keep popping out children, while her brother will be a success, except she is a female and he is a male. If not, exactly why did you think the best she can hope for is popping out children?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:45 PM
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26. Actually...
when I originally wrote that post, I had thought I read in the thread-starter that the boy in question had an older brother and sister, who were both soccer stars, and so I had to edit out the parts referring to "he and she" to just "she". So it's nothing against the female because she's a female, it's just the worst thing I could think of to say about someone in order to lift the poor boy up. :hi:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:03 PM
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32. I don't feel the need to lift one child up in expense of another.
It's obviously the parents that are in the wrong, not the children.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:24 AM
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41. I thought the poster meant that the soccer star
may be peaking too early, especially if she is being pushed by her parents. Think of all the star football players in high school that never went any further and spend what could be the best years of their life drinking beer and reliving the "glory days" of high school.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:16 PM
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28. I think that he meant it as the "wanted" child tends to
be the one who is less successful. You listen to interviews w/ most artists, entertainers, etc and they will many times say that they did not excel at much of anything in their youth. Some will even admit to being a disappointment to their families.
If it had been a girl he probably would have made the same comment.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:04 PM
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33. Well, I don't know about that. I believe many sports stars
started really young and their parents really pushed them along the way.
I have many examples of that.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:23 AM
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34. And most children who are pushed into sports will
never become pro. The odds are against them.
To get back to this post, what they are doing is wrong. The are giving all of their attention to one child and making the other feel unwanted. As to the sports star, the overload of encouragement that seems to come from just playing sports is also wrong. You encourage them to do what they enjoy but you should also show a sense of pride over accomplishments.
The op stated that the parents talk about sports. What else does this young girl do? Is she good in school? Does she volunteer her time in her community? Does she do anything else besides soccer?
I have a child. I am raising her to be a well-rounded person. She is involved in sports. She is involved in Girl Scouts. She helps collect cans for our local food pantry. She takes Highland Dance. She is deciding on an instrument to learn to play (I'm secretly hoping for a brass instrument so I can begin her lessons early since that is what I play but I will encourage her w/ whatever she picks). And she is encouraged to do well in school.
I was an athlete. I was considered to be a very good athlete. (I was in cross country and track). My parents expected me to do more. They taught me that athletics is not the only thing in this world. I also did band (I played a number of instruments), forensics, volunteerism, Top 10 in my class, NHS, drill team (for one season), basketball, student council, drama, AFS, FTA, I was a Senior Girl Scout-and the list goes on. Sports were not the only area that I concentrated in. I learned something from everything that I did. And my younger brother was encouraged to do exactly the same.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:41 AM
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38. She may not be allowed to do anything else
Her parents might be afraid that other activities will detract from soccer. When I read or hear about parents like this, I wonder if they are trying to live vicariously through their children.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:01 AM
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45. Exactly.
And that attitude will be extremely damaging to her in the long run.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:29 AM
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35. That's what happens to most child athletes
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 07:30 AM by MountainLaurel
They'll be 30 and working at Wal-Mart, having blown their knee out in college, talking about the glory days when they were 15 and in the state championships.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:43 AM
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40. Maybe so, but it's stupid to wish it onto this girl just because
her parents pay more attention to her than to her brother.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:38 AM
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42. OMFG.
If it was an older boy, he would have said something similar - except for the popping kids part.

Good God, not everyone is out to get you.

:eyes:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:55 PM
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10. They "got caught up in all the fun"? He's "a bit of a drama queen"?
What ignorant asses. :grr:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:57 PM
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12. aint that something? Calliing her son a drama queen?
Everytime i talk to her on the phone she complains of a "Terrible migraine" and claims she's so tired and just can't do anything at all but the next day i'll see her she's been at the mall shopping.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:59 PM
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13. Actually, he will probably turn out as a better adjusted adult...
...then the other one. Speaking as someone who went through much the same, I must say that I never expected a free ride in my life from growing up like that. For me life started as an adult. My two brothers, are both in their late forties and still love to talk about their boring ass "glory days" stories.

I kind of feel for the soccer superstar myself, she has no clue what the real world has in store for her, and is probably in for a shaky adulthood, when mommy isn't their to protect and coddle her.

The world is chocked full of losers that hit their peaks in their teens, and life just seems to go downhill for them from that point.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:30 PM
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14. Your actions toward a forgotten child demonstrates
why I like coming here. For the most part, people on this board are kind, compassionate individuals who make a genuine difference in life.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:46 PM
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16. Hey! I like your user name.
:)
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:12 PM
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27. Thank you
I maintain that the wingers garner a fair amount of esteem simply because "Right" equals "correct". I am unwilling to allow them exclusive claim to rightness or righteousness
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:54 AM
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43. Well, that...
and that is sounds just like my user name. :D
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:48 PM
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17. exactly.. and were glad youre here too. we need all the kind compassionate
people we can get together in this world
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:45 PM
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15. Thank goodness that little boy has you for his neighbor!
I was just feeling so terrible that he's being ignored by his parents. I also think that you are handling the situation PERFECTLY. He'll get so much positive reinforcement from being with you and your daughter...very cool of you to take such good care of him.
Another cool Californian! Whereabouts in the state are you? NoCal, SoCal, or somewhere else?

:hi:


:yourock:
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:53 PM
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19. I agree. Bless your heart.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 08:53 PM by mac56
He'll remember you all of his life.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:24 PM
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29. I just want to say you are really cool folks to do this.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 10:26 PM by eyepaddle
I think I've also heard that younger children often wind up pursuing less typical hobbies/sports. I think we can see why. (I read that in Shermer's "Why people believe weird things")

So if he gets some positive energy from someplace who knows where he might go?

Best wishes to all concerned.

On edit: Hi CaliforniaPeggy, I can't belive I repsonded to the wrong post!

On the plus side it's good to say hi to you! :hi:

Oh yeah, I hit my kayak roll tonight like five times!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:44 PM
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30. Hey, eyepaddle! I don't mind your answering the wrong post...
so did the other poster just before you...!

And it is likewise good to say hi to you! :hi:

Congrats on doing a kayak roll five times! I would have drowned, probably...:yourock:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:56 PM
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21. Besides the horrible parenting skills
it is so incredibly RUDE to leave a child in another's care for three hours over the agreed upon pick-up time. That is fucking inexcusable. I would be furious. If you have it in you, please say something to this miserable bitch.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:43 AM
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39. Someone should buy these "parents" an etiquette book
as well as a parenting book.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:59 PM
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22. Sometimes, I just don't know where to begin.
I think that's great that you and your family are giving the child some much needed attention. You know I already think you are wonderful anyway :hug:

Beyond that, I have too much to say and not enough space to say it - so I'll keep my opinions to myself. :mad:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:06 PM
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23. you're such a sweetie. Hope all is well with you
She's still not here yet but my neighbor kids now knows the joy of orzo with butter and romano cheese.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:07 PM
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24. I would like to know the joy of orzo with butter and romano cheese.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:47 PM
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31. Get some revenge on his Yupster 'Rents...
Show him "Breaking Away" or "A Sunday in Hell" and if he like those, introduce him to a cycling coach....
:evilgrin:
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:29 AM
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36. Maybe She'll be on the New Bravo Network Show?
Total asswipe!
I've been through this a lot-since my stepdaughter was on a never-ending roadtip through the Tri-State area with AAU Basketball.

She get's the "Asswipe Award",however, for the way she treated YOU!

I'd give her Cold & Curt for about 2 weeks, FWIW.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:34 AM
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37. Poor kid.
:cry:

But what you're doing is really good. :-)
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:57 AM
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44. aww
:(

thanks for being good to that young soul, ms. chimpsrsmarter :hug:
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