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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:28 AM
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1776 the movie
i'm watching it on "in demand"

i love this movie! i've watched it about five or six times in the past six weeks.

i guess it just fills me with hope about our government
and our country
and it reassures me that political rebels (who believe in real freedom) aren't bad!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:35 AM
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1. I'm such a 1776 junkie...
I'm a history buff, and that movie is simply wonderful. It's my favorite musical. :)

I'm sure I'll be watching it several times over 4th of July week.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:57 AM
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2. wheeew--glad i'm not the only one who likes it
(i've got my teenager hooked on it too! poor kid--or not!)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:06 AM
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3. I love it. I love it, love it, love it.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:35 AM
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5. I love it too, especially William Daniels -- I know all the songs and
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 03:35 AM by Radio_Lady
everything. Once I did see it on a rainy fourth of July holiday on Cape Cod with my two surly stepdaughters, who were teenagers at the time.

That must have been in the late 1970s or early 1980s. We had huge fights about everything, and I locked myself in my bedroom and watched it. It helped me get through that difficult time.

Regrettably, these two women in the 40s have rejected their father and me, even though we've tried to make peace with them now that they have their own families. It is a sad story -- but we still have three children who love both of us, and their five children are also close. Three out of five ain't bad. At least, the two who abandoned us aren't on drugs or in prison or abusing their children. It's just that they don't want us in their lives anymore. After fifteen or more years of pursuing them, it's over. Their natural father handles it better than I do. There's even a book on this subject: "Family Estrangements" by author Barbara LeBey. The book has helped me accept this situation, even though I never envisioned it and did not want it.

Thanks for reading this rant!
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:26 AM
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4. My daughter and I know every line by heart
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 03:30 AM by ashling
ok,. . . maybe not in the right order . . .

I did a scene from it when I was in college back in 72.

I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace;
two become a law firm;
and 3 or more are a congress.

And by God I have had this Congress!

.....
Sit down, John!


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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:36 AM
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6. OT, ashling. What a beautiful Calico cat! What's her name?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:49 AM
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7. Patches
she is charcoal collor wit patches ow white and buff . . .
or maybe she is white with patches of buff and charcoal . . .
or maybe she is -
oh heck, she is just Patches.
:bounce:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:12 PM
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12. Isn't that called a Calico cat? They only come in the female gender,
I've been told. Don't know if that's true...

She's beautiful. I'm allergic to cats, but still appreciate their beauty.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 03:59 AM
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8. I remember seeing that
in my sophomore year of HS in my English class. Good movie, and though I liked it at the time, I don't think I appreciated it much then.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:46 AM
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9. "If I'm the one to do it, they'll run their quill pens through it"
"I'm obnoxious and disliked, you know that, sir!"
I love that line. I use it all the time at work. :rofl:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:34 AM
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10. Howard da Silva, cast as Benjamin Franklin, was blacklisted in the 1950s
by McCarthy and Hollywood. The role seemed to be vindication for him sticking to his principles and not naming names. DaSilva (who also starred in Orson Welles' The Cradle Will Rock) is a true American patriot.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:52 AM
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11. Get the DVD! Deleted scene you will love!
The long-lost musical number deleted under pressure, it turned out, by the Nixon White House!

"Come ye cool, cool, conservative men
The likes of which may never be seen again
We have land, cash in hand
Self-command, future planned
Fortune flies, society survives
In neatly ordered lives with well-endowered wives

We sing hosanna, hosanna
To our breeding and our banner
We are cool.

Come ye cool cool considerate set
We'll dance together to the same minuet
To the right, ever to the right
Never to the left, forever to the right
May our creed be never to exceed
Regulated speed, no matter what the need."

And it goes on from there. The dance "to the right, ever to the right, never to the left" is hilarious. Nasty attack on the Conservative spirit that nearly choked the nation a-borning.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:01 PM
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20. This was a number from the original play...
This is the only musical in my top 10.
It should be required in every elementary school in the country. It conveys, a surprisingly accurate feeling of the spirit of the time.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:35 PM
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26. i think 8th grade or maybe even the required high school
history class would be good--
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:23 PM
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13. I saw it performed live on stage
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 01:23 PM by Mad_Dem_X
It gave me the chills - especially the end, when they're signing the Declaration of Independence. Awesome. That is my favorite era in history; since the third grade I've had a strange kind of crush on Thomas Jefferson. :loveya: :patriot:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:06 PM
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18. Yes, it's not like they're jumping for joy or anything.
I thought it was a nice touch, to have the end kind of serious.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:23 PM
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14. "Someone ought to open up a window!"
I love it!

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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:06 PM
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17. Too many flies! Too many flies!
I love this movie. I watched it during high school civics.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:50 AM
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29. IT'S HOT AS HELL IN HERE SOMEONE OPEN A DAMN WINDOW!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:59 PM
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15. You see, it's here-a-lee, there-a-lee, everywhere-a-Lee-a-Lee!
I really liked it. It is a hopeful piece, isn't it.

I was also impressed with the casting--the principal from "Boy Meets World" was fantastic as John Adams, he seemed so earnest and believable. The guy who played Thomas Jefferson was hot, and the governor from "Benson" was great as the guy from Jersey.

I especially liked the little love theme going with John/Abigail Adams.

Saltpeter, John!
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:31 PM
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19. My god....
You just made me feel old. You should have at least recognized William Daniels from "St. Elsewhere" or "Knight Rider" if not his film work!

And have you seen "Crossing Jordan?" That fat, white haired guy who plays Jordan Cavanaugh's father is what Thomas Jefferson turned into.

And Abigail Adams is now Will Truman's mother. :)
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:54 PM
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23. KITT!! Yeah, I know KITT!
His voice was really familiar, but I couldn't place it. I was a little kid when St. Elsewhere was on (well, and Knight Rider too)--have no memory of the show whatsoever. I did catch Knight Rider from time to time...the thing I remember most about it, though, was when David Hasselhoff was on Diff'rent Strokes!

THAT'S Thomas Jefferson? Aww, LOL.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:31 PM
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24. the guy who played thomas jefferson
was ken howard.

i remember him from this tv series he had called the white shadow--he played a basketball coach in a high school

http://imdb.com/name/nm0397432/
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:33 PM
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25. St. Elsewhere!
i knew i knew him from some other place other than my daughter telling me he was the principle on boy meets world. thank you! (i guess i could have just looked him up in the imdb.com)

http://imdb.com/name/nm0200122/
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:03 PM
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16. "Dr. Franklin, I regret that I am the bearer of sad tidings.
Your son, the Royal Governor of New Jersey has been placed under arrest and has been taken to a safe location in Connecticut."

"Is he unharmed, sir?"

"When last I heard, yes."

"Well, then why the long face? I hear Connecticut is an excellent location. Tell me, why did they arrest the little bastard?"

I love that line, and Franklin zipping off to New Brunswick for the whoring and the drinking." :7
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:19 PM
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21. Our sixth grade class went to see it in 1976
The teachers thought it would be a good way to teach us about the Revolution.

They weren't expecting the sexual aspects of the movie, though (I remember hearing teachers say). All of us hot-blooded pre-teens loved those parts, though. :evilgrin:
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:38 PM
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22. I love that movie.
I have it on DVD. It has two songs that were cut from the original release, including Cool, Considerate Men. I think that one was removed at Nixon's request.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:46 PM
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27. And just as Tom here has written, we say to Hell with Great Britian
The eagle inside, belongs to us!
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:27 AM
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28. Benjamin Frankin is an incredible badass in that movie.
The actor might deserve the Samuel L. Jackson award for being a badass in this particuluar film.
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