Chichiri
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:09 PM
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Poll question: How do you resolve the Grandfather Paradox? |
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Assume time travel is possible.
You build a time machine, travel back to when your grandfather was 10 years old, and shoot him in the head. That would mean that you were never born. That would mean that the time machine was never built, thus you never went back in time. Thus, your grandfather was never killed, which means that your father was born, and thus you. Then you build a time machine . . .
How do you think this paradox is resolved?
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arwalden
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:12 PM
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1. I Saw This On Futurama... |
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Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 07:13 PM by arwalden
By some strange twist of fate, you end up screwing the chick who will become your future grandmother and thus you become your OWN father's father and so too you become your OWN grandfather.
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Deja Q
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:15 PM
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2. I was going to say the same thing about that pervert Philip J Fry! |
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:rofl:
Of course, without grandpa to make you in the first place, how can you go back to screw her? Temporal paradoxes are so kewl. :D
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:17 PM
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3. Or maybe you end up becoming: |
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your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate
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The_Casual_Observer
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:19 PM
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4. Is this an illusion to that old favorite "I'm my own grandpa"? |
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Oh, many, many years ago When I was twenty-three I was married to a widow Who was pretty as can be This widow had a grown-up daughter Who had hair of red My father fell in love with her And soon the two were wed
This made my dad my son-in-law And changed my very life For my daughter was my mother 'Cause she was my father's wife To complicate the matter Though it really brought me joy I soon became the father Of a bouncing baby boy
This little baby then became A brother-in-law to Dad And so became my uncle Though it made me very sad For if he was my uncle Then that also made him brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter WHo of course is my step-mother
Chorus I'm my own grandpa I'm my own grandpa It sounds funny I know But it really is so Oh, I'm my own grandpa
My father's wife then had a son Who kept them on the run And he became my grandchild For he was my daughter's son My wife is now my mother's mother And it makes me blue Because although she is my wife She's my grandmother too
Now if my wife is my grandmother Then I'm her grandchild And every time I think of it It nearly drives me wild For now I have become The strangest case you ever saw As husband of my grandma I am my own grandpa
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Reverend_Smitty
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:19 PM
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5. Have you read Sarah Vowell's book... |
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Assassination Vacation? I just finished it this afternoon and she discussed the grandfather paradox in one of the chapters
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:20 PM
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There's no reason to believe that anything out of the ordinary would happen. The "past" that existed between the killing of your grandfather and the point of your departure would be altered, but since that past never occurred in that timeline, nothing would be disrupted. You, on the other hand, would become a man out of time.The past that built the time machine would only exist in your memories.
This itself creates an interesting opportunity and a potential reason why time travel will never happen. If a scientist invents one, and then an unscrupulous criminal to travel back in time and kills the inventor as a boy, the criminal will become the only person in the world to possess a time machine, or with the knowledge that one ever existed. Thanks to human nature, this essentially gurantees that time travel will never be possible.
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democrat in Tallahassee
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:26 PM
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9. Xithras, I agree with you. If you exist then killing your grandfather |
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before you were born would not affect you. You wouldn't just magically cease to exist just because your grandfather died, even if if was before you were born. Your family tree and the future, obviously, would be quite different from what you remember, but you would still be the same.
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:20 PM
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7. You have to screw your grandmother |
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and end up an inbred repug??? Not recommended. :P
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:23 PM
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8. Gee, in Superman comics they always resolved this by pointing out that |
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you couldn't alter history because it has already happened. Thus you would always somehow be thwarted from shooting your grandfather. You wouldn't be able to do it.
Worked for me, as a 10 year old.
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:34 PM
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"The Miracleman Family woke up, and it was all a dream...."
Then you discover some paradoxical indication that it may have been real, after all, but not until the last panel or paragraph of the story.
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Wed Jun-15-05 07:49 PM
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11. Someone has access to a time machine, and all they can think to |
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do is shoot grandpa? They deserve to be erased, or spend some quality time in one of the finer penal institutions of the time. Myself, I'd buy stock in IBM, and will it to my grandfather's grandchildren, at the very least.
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Thu Jun-16-05 03:21 AM
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Why do something stupid like go back to shoot someone when you can buy a bunch of stocks. Sign me up for Microsoft, IBM, Apple, Ebay, etc. When I'm a gazillionare I can end world hunger and a bunch of other problems.
While I'm at it, I could make sure George and Barbara Bush never meet...:evilgrin:
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