Lynard Skynard was liberal in the 70's - now Repuke Pigs

[The Sushi Bandit]

i'd love to hear your thoughts on this subject!

[LastKnight]

1. cant come up with new music so come up with new...

political views? who knows.

[jobycom]

2. They were southern liberals in the 70s. I think Ronnie may have been

the soul of the band. After he died, they weren't half of what they were before. Now they are sick, musically and politically.

[Zomby Woof]

3. As a Skynyrd fan...

The answer is simple: Ronnie Van Zant.

He was the brains, the heart, and the conscience of that band.

He was the reason they played benefits to raise money for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

He wrote about protecting the environment, against the Vietnam War, against handguns, against poverty, and about defending the working class.


Sadly, the few survivors are naive and ignorant about what made those songs great. They not only lack his gift, they allowed themselves to be sucked in by RW sycophants such as Travis Tritt and Hank Williams Jr.

I do not acknowledge the current version of the band. I wish I could, because I understand the value of loyalty, one of RVZ's values.

His kid brother Johnny Van Zant is a dumbass. He brings shame to great name of Lynyrd Skynyrd. I blame Gary Rossington, who didn't have the strength to say NO when the 1987-88 Tribute Tour ran its course.

[jandrok]

22. I agree completely.

Classic Skynyrd is the ONLY Skynyrd, IMO.

I caught a little of the current band on CMT, doing one of the rockin' country mixers with Montgomery Gentry. They sucked. Some legends need to fade quietly into the background.

[mark414]

4. Ronnie died

that's when it all went downhill

[Robeson]

5. Well, as someone from the South, born and raised, all I can say is that...

...many people I know consider them nothing but a cheap rip-off of the Allman Brothers Band. And thats about it.

[Zomby Woof]

6. Never was an accurate assessment

The Allmans were more jazz and blues oriented - Miles and Coltrane and Blind Willie McTell. Skynyrd was more British Invasion oriented - Stones and Beatles and Cream. Influenced by the Allmans, yes, but great differences.

Much as I love the Allmans, and as great as many of their songs were, they never had anyone as charismatic or original as Ronnie Van Zant as a songwriter. The Allmans never wrote anything as moving or deep as "The Ballad Of Curtis Loew", as edgy or in-your-face as "Sweet Home Alabama", or as hard-rocking and vicious as "Saturday Night Special". And true, Skynyrd never reached the intensity of the live version of "Whipping Post", but they never tried to imitate that either.

They held their own in the shadow of the Allmans. Just for "Simple Man" alone.

[Robeson]

7. "The Allmans never wrote anything as moving or deep as....

..."The Ballad of Curtis Loew". Uh huh...:eyes: Yeah, "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" just wasn't as "deep" as compared to all that intense Skynard stuff, huh?....Puleeze.

"Sweet Home Alabama"?...was edgy? It was a redneck riff.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Zomby Woof]

8. Elizabeth Reed is beautiful

Just not the kind of beauty I was speaking of. Mainly because I am hesitant to compare an instrumental to a worded song. The lyrics of "Curtis Loew" (based on a true story, as was all of their songs) are what I was getting at.

I moved to the south before I was 2 years old... family goes back in TN over 200 years, lived in the south until I was 20. I say that to counter the notion that being born or raised there gives one a definitive view on these 2 great bands. I think my view is as representative as anyone who grew up among major fans of both bands, in the same kinds of working class neighborhoods they came from.

I love them both just about equally. So I can't say this is really a "Allmans vs. Skynyrd" argument from my end.

[Robeson]

9. I hear ya.....

...I'm born and raised in Nashville, Tennessee for 41 years, and know and have been involved in music here my whole life. This is Music City USA. Artistically, most consider Allman Brothers to be first tier, and Skynard to be second tier. Thats just how it is.

[jobycom]

10. Born and raised in Mississippi, never left the south

I don't like the Allman Brothers. I tried to, but they bore me. Their live concerts were even worse than their albums. I don't have ZW's or probably your musical knowledge, but as a rabid fan who wrote a rock column in high school, I have some input.

I've never heard LS referred to as a second tier band. Maybe in your industry, but not amongst fans. In Mississippi, you can ignite a crowd still by playing the opening notes to Sweet Home Alabama or Free Bird. Play the opening of any Allman Brother's song, and most people in that crowd would just keep chatting with their neighbors. A few purists might like them more, but not the general fans. Personally, I could use Rambling Man to put me to sleep any night.

Technical sophistication is nice, but not if it makes you boring.

[Robeson]

11. Sorry you never heard of them refered to that way, but thats....

...what they are. A retro-rock touring band.

The Bros. have continued to produce new inovative music, and have not lived off their laurels. Not only was their old stuff pure classic - and heavily influenced the band you love - but they continue to stretch the bounds. If its boring to you, whatever, but its not to many who appreciate innovative music.

To each his own.

[Zomby Woof]

12. But you gotta admit

Those early 80's albums on Arista were stinkers. ;-)

I don't acknowledge the current version of Skynyrd, but I do with the Allmans. Their 90's work holds up alongside the Duane era.

[Robeson]

13. I absolutely agree with the 90's era stuff. It really does hold up with..

...the best. Some very awesome music is on those albums. As I was trying to point out above, that is also the test of a great group. They really never stopped. In fact, the decade you mentioned, produced some very fine wines....

[jobycom]

20. Thought it was clear from ZW's first post

That we were talking about the LS before the crash, not the cover band bearing their name and a few of their members now. I don't even call them second tier.

[malmapus]

25. I couldn't get into the Allman Brothers either

Born and raised in Georgia, deep southern roots as well. Call me a Redneck but I love old LS. Kinda makes me wish I was born like 18 years earlier at times so I could catch them in their hayday :)

[jonnyblitz]

18. Oh I MUCH prefer the Allman Brothers.

waaaaay waaaaay waaaaay more. they aren't even the same style of music to me..:shrug:

[Shell Beau]

27. Well I saw them both at a concert a few weeks ago, and although

both are missing some key members, they are nothing alike musically. The Allman Brothers were more about the music and not really the lyrics. Lynyrd Skynyrd was more about their popular songs. I enjoyed both a great deal!

[Shell Beau]

26. Well I was born and raised in the South as well and still

live here and I know of no one that thinks that!

[Orsino]

14. It's our fault for giving them all that money. n/t

[RedstDem]

15. Why Do You Say They Are RW Pigs ?

I'm Not Saying They're Not, I Just Haven't Kept Up With Them At All & I'm Curious As To What They're Saying And Or Doing ....

[AntiCoup2K4]

24. They played Dipshit's innauguration in January

That's usually a good sign.

And Ronnie Van Zant was spinning in his grave. I have no use for Little Brother and the Half-Assed Tribute Band (I refuse to call them Lynyrd Skynyrd)

[RedstDem]

28. That's The First I've Heard That

I Completely Ignored The Inaugration....Living Under A Rock !
Too Bad For Ronny, They Added Shame To The Name Of His Creation..

[Deja Q]

16. The crowd they attracted at a 'family festival' recently caused quite the

violence and dismay by local hooligans. (including a woman being punched repeatedly...)

Only one non-white person was there and he left fairly quickly. Can't blame him!

Lots of skin-heads supporting pro-racist artifacts and propaganda. (see above)

Lots of litter from beer cans and bottles, and papers...

The hootin' and hollerin' annoyed a lot of neighbors too...

If they were liberal in the 1970s, I wouldn't buy it. Just as I wouldn't buy any tickets to see them.

[Shell Beau]

23. I saw them. We really went for the Allman Bros. but they

opened for them and even if their politics suck, their music doesn't. I have never seen or heard anything that insinuates that they are racist. Some of their fans are I am sure, but that doesn't mean they are.

[trumad]

17. Nuff said....

Two feets they come a creepin’
Like a black cat do
And two bodies are lyin’ naked
Creeper think he got nothin’ to lose
So he creeps into this house, yeah
And unlocks the door
And while a man reaching for his trousers
Shoots him full of .38 holes

(chorus)
Its a saturday night special
Got a barrel that’s blue and cold
Ain’t no good for nothin’
But put a man six feet in a hole

Big jim’s been drinkin’ whiskey
And playing poker on a losin’ night
Pretty soon, big jim starts a thinkin’
Somebody been cheatin’ and lyin’
So big jim commences to fightin’
I wouldn’t tell you no lie
And big jim done grab his pistol
Shot his friend right between the eyes

(chorus)

Hand guns are made for killin’
Ain’t no good for nothin’ else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don’t we dump ’em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

[DrGonzoLives]

19. Well

Their lead singer died, and only a couple of the original members are still around. So that's not really surprising.

[Shell Beau]

21. I saw them in concert with the Allman Bros.

a few weeks ago. Who cares about their politics, their music rocked!!!!!!!! :headbang: