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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:08 PM
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What's good for spider bites?


This is on my leg. The redness is about an inch across each way, and there's a tiny brown spot in the middle. Brown Recluses don't live out here, so it can't be that. I noticed the bite as a red itchy spot after getting home from the movies yesterday. It's been hurting and the red patch is getting bigger. It's also swollen. I took Benadryl but that didn't help.

Anyone else here ever have a bite like this? If so, what helped it?

Tucker
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:11 PM
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1. Doctors are helpful with that.
I don't mean to seem flippant - seriously, please see a doctor. Mystery insect bites aren't something to fuck around with.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:12 PM
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3. If it gets worse I will
I'd rather not have to go to the doctor though.

Tucker
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:11 PM
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2. eek! i got one on my neck last week
:scared:

it was red for 2 days then went down & scarred... i don't have many allergies or reactions to things... i say if its still bugging you in a few days, have someone check it out :)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:13 PM
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4. Please see a doctor.
Seriously. The spreading erythema (redness) is not a good sign. SPiders are tough little buggers and somehow a brown recluse could have made its way near you, even if they are not natural to the area.

ALthough I understand they are fairly common.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:32 PM
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17. brown recluse bites are EXTREMELY uncommon...
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 06:34 PM by mike_c
...even in areas where they live, and it's even more uncommon to get them in places like that (on the leg). Most people bitten by recluses get them on their hands because they've reached into a hiding place or otherwise disturbed the spiders, which really are reclusive. Recluses don't generally roam around.

Lots of common house spiders do roam, and they tend to bite when they get into bedclothes or into clothing-- such bites are purely defensive and often they don't inject much (or any) venom. Some of the "normal" reaction is localized immune response to spider venom, and some is caused by infection. In the OVERWHELMING majority of cases, any necrosis or serious reaction is caused by the wound becoming septic. That's no laughing matter-- I had one on the back of my hand that went necrotic several years ago and it was terribly painful
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:14 PM
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5. *Cringes*
see a priest.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:15 PM
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6. 99 times out of 100, necrotic spider bites...
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 06:15 PM by mike_c
...are caused by infection, either from the spider's fangs or from microbes on your skin. That's what your's looks like-- a localized infection. You might want to ask a doctor about prescribing an antibiotic. That's usually the best treatment.

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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:16 PM
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7. Is it necrotic if it's just red, not black/brown?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:20 PM
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10. no-- that bite's not necrotic....
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 06:24 PM by mike_c
But it does look like a hot skin infection.

on edit-- I only mentioned necrosis because most necrotic bites start out looking like yours, and I get lots of calls about necrotic spider bites.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:17 PM
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8. To that end she could pick up some Betadine Ointment at a drugstore
It's about 10 bucks a tube..it's not cheap..put that on it and if it works, it will work quickly. Iodine is great because it is anti-biotic and anti-fungal
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:18 PM
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9. Thanks! I've Neosporined it already
Betadine sounds like a good idea!

Tucker
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:21 PM
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11. Call and make sure they carry it first..not all pharmacies carry it
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:23 PM
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13. I agree-- the only real reason to use a systemic antibiotic...
...rather than just a topical one is probably prophylactic, unless the infection spreads. A systemic might act more quickly, too.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:21 PM
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12. Spiders are best for spider bites
Good luck
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:23 PM
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14. Meat tenderizer
I knew that from long ago. A quick google confirms. But still a Doctor might be better. Buy hey one never knows, good luck.

180
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:26 PM
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15. Alcohol for the infection, ice for swelling and topical treatment
of your choice for the itching. If not improved within 10-20 hours, call the Dr.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:32 PM
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16. Link to spider bites
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 06:33 PM by warrior1
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:35 PM
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19. Those are all Brown Recluse bites
I live in an area that doesn't have brown recluses. We have black widows, but they don't live in theaters, and I don't have the systemic effects people get from black widow bites.

Tucker
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:33 PM
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18. Bactine works for me
But if it gets any worse call a Dr.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:38 PM
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20. You're sure it's a spider bite?
Looks like it could be just a boil. I'd try rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide for the infection, and a very hot washcloth press.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:41 PM
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21. There's no fluid inside it
It started suddenly with what looked and felt like a mosquito or fly bite.

Tucker
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:44 PM
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22. Yeah, but unless you saw the spider...
Every now and then I'll get a boil like that that remains solid, no fluid inside, for a couple of days. They don't get fluid and "poppable" for awhile. A hot washclothe tends to speed up the process.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:47 PM
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23. I'll try it, then!
What the heck is a boil anyway? :shrug: All I know about boils is that everythingsxen is afflicted with them...

Tucker
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:00 PM
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24. It's like a pimple from hell.
Big, slow, and when they pop you better be wearing protective eye wear.

I think it's just a boil. Prepare to be uncomfortable for a couple of days. You'll be fine.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:25 PM
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25. Update: it's cellulitis
It's bigger and more painful today, but I'm on antibiotics and it should be gone in a couple days. I'm going to go lie down for a while now, because I'm feeling icky. Thank you to everyone who replied with info! :hi:

Tucker
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:28 PM
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26. If you let a rattlesnake bite you there, you won't even feel it. :) n/t
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:51 PM
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27. Well, I have no rattlesnake
But Gideon has been begging to let him practice his dermatology skills and debride the tissue...

Tucker

(P.S. How ya feeling?)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:53 PM
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28. This is the best stuff ever: Gardener's Dream Cream by
Aroma Crystal Therapy, Ltd.

1-877-537-9211
www.aromacrystal.com

For spiders, since its hurting and getting bigger and you don't have dream cream with you, go see someone. My mom got stung by a wasp and this cream took it down immediately.
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