The JustWait people can kiss my fucking ass!

[BlondieK143]

http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=26605

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While some find the message sexist in the way it targets girls, Scott Hughes, director of Just Wait, says it's really more about teenage boys.

"Guys are turned on visually by what they see, so it's really saying guys aren't men enough to control themselves, therefore you have to be careful on how you present yourself," says Hughes.



HEY BUDDY! Why don't you put up a billboard that says "Men: Don't be pigs"?? You know, it's one thing to teach teenagers that you should be abstinent, but it's another to try to change a girl just because men can't "control themselves". Fuck you. I'll wear whatever I want, whenever I want and if a man even TRIES to touch me in ways not allowed, you bet your ass he'll regret it. Fucking pricks. :grr:

[GirlinContempt]

1. Thats disgusting

[rfranklin]

2. So, it's okay if I kiss your ass?

Just wondering.

[BlondieK143]

3. Well, not really.

:) And I'm not sure if you're waiting until marriage (and if you are or did, that's great), I just mean this group in particular.

[LynneSin]

4. Is it for sale? Are you advertising your ass?

:shrug:

:D

[BlondieK143]

5. You know it.

I mean, really. :D I certainly didn't expect the men or women in the Lounge to control themselves when it came to moi. hehe

[matcom]

6. I still get my discount right?

[BlondieK143]

7. Psh.

Who said you even get one? I mean, it's not like you're entitled to the discount because you can't control yourself around me! :P

[matcom]

8. oh, i'm 'entitled'

:D

hey, if its not for sale.....

[BlondieK143]

9. For you...

there's always an exception. :evilgrin:

[cleofus1]

10. boy

that sign really burns me...it just offends me on a very basic level...

it is trying to manipulate me...and i don't appreciate the insidiousness of it's intent...

he wants me to think that girls who dress in a certain way are whores and that guys are pigs...

i reject that whole notion...


women are beautiful and the human body it a work of art...

the person who wrote that sign is a hateful person...

[BlondieK143]

14. Women ARE beautiful.

And this billboard is absolutely ridiculous. But unfortunately, around here, probably 80% of people agree with it. :eyes:

[cleofus1]

37. c'mon blondie...

i can't believe that there are people on this board who agree with that...say it ain't true!

[BlondieK143]

39. Oh no, I meant in my town.

Sorry, I should've clarified that!

[cleofus1]

43. never mind...

sweetie...were all in this together

[ET Awful]

11. Geee, it sounds like a westernized version of the Talibans rationale

for forcing women to wear burqas.

It was for their safety, to protect them from those that would rape them, etc.

[BlondieK143]

15. No kidding!

And I'm sure it's the woman's fault when she gets raped. You know, maybe her shirt was a little too low or her skirt a little too high that a man just couldn't keep his hands off of her. :sarcasm:

[cleofus1]

40. yeah but...

rape isn't about sex...it's about hatefull mean ass bastards...that enoy being dominant and violent....it's about power and control...anyone that says that sexy attire encourages rape is ignorant...

[BlondieK143]

41. That's what I'm saying.

It's complete ignorance. Just like that guy and this stupid billboard.

[Brewman_Jax]

12. G'day, Blondie!

Those bad boys! Are they picking on you again? :D

[BlondieK143]

16. Not me.

Unfortunately, I tell them what I think. I'm just outraged.

[Brewman_Jax]

19. The news link is from Knoxville

isn't that your part of TN?

[BlondieK143]

22. Yep.

Sure is!

[Brewman_Jax]

30. Holy last century, Batman!

is the next billboard gonna be for the E. Tennessee Burkha Shop? Everything for your teen girl here.

I'd laugh if that wasn't so...possible.

[BlondieK143]

31. No kidding!

I mean, granted, I may be a little extreme with the whole Kiss My Ass thing, but I think it's waranted. This is ridiculous.

[Brewman_Jax]

33. If I figure this out, I'll let you know

why do these idiots want to go back to the "good ol' days" which never existed. :shrug: For a LOT of people, those days weren't so good. :thumbsdown:

[demnan]

13. Trying to change people won't work.

These guys are just idiots. From the beginning of time the sexes have done things in every species to attract the opposite sex. It will never change.

[BlondieK143]

17. It's not just that.

it's taking responsibility for your own actions and not blaming them on someone else simply because you couldn't control yourself.

[In_The_Wind]

18. Hey ! JustWait ~ Bite Me !

>

:nuke:

[GOPBasher]

20. Whoa!!!

How do they get away with putting up a sign like that? I thought we left that century. :shrug:

[BlondieK143]

21. As did I.

I don't who they think they are, but I'm so furious that I'm going to take action.

[GOPBasher]

23. Good for you!

:thumbsup:

[lateo]

24. -Girls- Get your Burka now!

[johnnie]

25. It's just a sign

Honestly, I have seen far worse things these days to get angry about. I don't agree with that person's statement, but I don't agree with a lot of things that are said by a lot of people.
It seems to me that you are insinuating that the men and women that sign is targeted at aren't able to make up their own minds about how they live their lives.

[BlondieK143]

27. Just a sign that some teenage girl is going to read

and think that it's her fault that some guy thinks he can do whatever he wants to her because of the way she dresses.

As for these people that aren't able to make up their own minds - how can they when they're being told what to do?

[johnnie]

32. I think you aren't giving those teenage girls enough credit

I was told a hell of a lot of things as a teen, I made up my own mind. I don't think that teens are that "stupid" that they will follow and believe every billboard, magazine, television and commercial ad they see.
As I said, I think the person that placed that ad is a little off, but he has every right to place it and you have every right to not like his opinion, but that's life.
I think too many people don't give the younger generation enough credit.

[BlondieK143]

35. I AM the younger generation

You very well could've made up your own mind at that age, but I also know that a lot of people are so easily lead by others. And I know what it was like to be an insecure, self-conscious girl. I know what it's like to want the attention of boys because I saw all these really pretty girls on TV having it. Just because I could make up my mind doesn't mean it wasn't hard to not fall into pressures and circumstances that were bad.

I've never once said that the younger generation is stupid. I think just the opposite. But I think we have so much going on in our lives that another bit of pollution isn't going to help anything. I have two younger sisters (12 and 14) and I want them to be able to respect their bodies and who they are as individuals, not to be made feel bad because younger boys are looking at them in different lights.

And you're right, I have every right to an opinion and that's all I'm doing - stating my outrage.

[MountainLaurel]

54. Amen Blondie

About easily led girls. I think a billboard like this is going to most directly impact those who are least likely to have a positive attitude toward their bodies -- e.g., those being raised by fundies who are taught that their breasts are "dirty pillows" and that their role in life is to serve men and have babies. In other words, those who most need to know that rape has nothing to do with how you dress and is all about the other person's behavior.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

59. I couldn't agree more.

nt

[Misunderestimator]

36. It isn't about giving anyone credit... it's about objecting to someone's

idea of what is right being put up on billboards. Not even objecting to it being put up, since it is a matter of freedom of speech...but objecting to the reasoning behind it. And it's not just teenage girls... younger kids are influenced by these signs.

[johnnie]

50. It wasn't THAT long ago that I was younger

I don't ever remember an ad changing my life. And I especially don't remember a billboard making me think any different than I did.
I'm not saying that people don't have the right to object, but it sounds to me that this is another case of "Ozzy Osbourne's music made kids commit suicide". I thought that was bullshit then, and I think that saying a billboard will make kids do something is almost as ridiculous.

[Misunderestimator]

52. Why do you think that YOUR experience and your mind as a child...

were the same as everyone else? I'm definitely not influenced by a sign... never have been, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand the fact that many people are. These are many of the same people who swallow MSM hook, line and sinker. Boggles the mind what caninfluence people.

This is NOT about making a kid do something... it's about forming a kid's perception of what girls are supposed to do/be. It's sexist and regressive and damaging.

[johnnie]

58. I understand what you are saying

And I guess being angry at this sign and the group that put it up is fine. But the point I was making is that if anyone wants to take a stand against this sexism, they should also take a stand against what is shown on television since 99% of it is demeaning to both sexes, they should refuse to buy magazines because most ads in them are sexist and they should start banning the music that is being shoved down the kid's throats. My original thought on this was that there are bigger fish to fry in the cause of this sexist bullshit than a billboard.

[Misunderestimator]

60. It's all part of the same fabric...

and I don't think there's any reason to exclude a billboard from the conversation about sexism. To argue that there are bigger issues, insinuating that this one is a waste of time, is a bit insulting.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

51. Well, I agree with blondie... and I AM a teenage girl

Many many of my peers are easily led and mislead into things. This sign would be no exception. Think about it. If a girl sees that, probably already feeling very insecure, she might be led to believe that any "attention" she gets, whether wanted or not, is her FAULT. That sign leads me to believe that the people who created it believe that the guy is not at all responsible for his actions. :shrug:

[Misunderestimator]

34. It's just a sign.... this is just a sign too...

[johnnie]

44. Yeah, it is

And this is The Bill of Rights


You may not agree with what these people say, but they can say it. I'm not sticking up for them or what they are saying, I just don't think that these signs really change people's minds. Maybe I am being naive', but I don't really let billboards make decisions for me. I don't ever remember one ever making up my mind.

[Misunderestimator]

45. Not the point. The Bill of Rights is wonderful, as is freedom of speech..

But to not object to ANYTHING that is put in front of our faces doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

It's not about making up YOUR mind... it's about influencing the minds of children and others who aren't so enlightened as you. Sometimes, I look outside my own experience and knowledge to care about how others are affected.

[johnnie]

53. As I said though

Objecting to it is fine and responsible. One thing that those signs are meant to do is to cause some sort of ruckus, and it looks like in this case it is working.
I was just saying that there is a lot more out there to be angry about than a sign that probably 99% of the people on this board would have never seen.
I have teen nephews and a niece and although sometimes I would like to question them on some of the ways they live, I remind myself that they are intelligent enough to make their own choices and sometimes mistakes. If I ever would see one of them heading toward trouble, I would intervene, but I respect their minds and opinions. It was the same courtesy that my parent's gave me.

[Misunderestimator]

55. What purpose does it serve to say that there are more important

things to discuss?

This is important... and I for one appreciate someone posting it here where 99.9% of us wouldn't have had the opportunity to know it exists. It's like reading about Fred Phelps... I will probably never encounter the guy, but I understand the value of knowing what he is doing... along with Pope and the President.

There's always something more important.

[BlondieK143]

56. Why can't we be angry about this?

You say that there are a lot more things out there to be angry about - that may be so, but just because this doesn't directly impact you doesn't mean there's more important things. I think teaching our children about respect for their bodies and selves is one of the most important things in life.

And you're right - 99% of people may have NEVER saw this sign, but at least 30 of them have by clicking on this thread. If we rolled over and said "well, there's more out there to be mad about" every time something came along, we'd all be sheep just like the damn Freepers we so adamantly fight against. I'm sorry, but I refuse to be led into sheepdom and I refuse to just give up because there's more to be angry about in this world.

[johnnie]

62. I didn't mean you can't be angry about it

I respect your position on this sign and the group that put it up. Once again I put myself into a position of trying to explain what I meant in the first place...lol.
I can't speak for the kids that might be swayed by a billboard, but in reading these posts I realize that it could happen. I just wasn't cut from that cloth and I didn't look at it that way. That was my mistake and I apologize if it seemed like I was minimizing your opinion on this.
Originally I looked at this as the same as saying that kids shouldn't listen to certain music because it's "Bad...bad...bad". I never held the belief that kid's are controlled by the music they listen to, but I see now that I was probably mistaken.

[cleofus1]

57. the bill of rights

applies to government censorship of speech...

i personally am not so constrained...the asshole who wrote that sign is a hatefull boob...if that sign weren't on private property i would tear it down and not even think twice....

[Misunderestimator]

63. Well.... That's because....

:yourock:

[cleofus1]

66. ha...

i just have an anger management problem when it comes to dangerous idiots...

[Bridget Burke]

26. Where are the role models of yesteryear?

Mrs. Peel certainly did not hide her assets. But you just knew she could discourage any unwanted attentions.

[xmas74]

28. I can't get the link to work now

[BlondieK143]

29. Here's the story:

Knoxville billboard aimed at teens raises controversy

The billboard was sponsored by JustWait, an abstinence education organization.


Scott Hughes is the director of JustWait.

Jennifer Sheehan says the billboard sends the wrong message.

A local billboard campaign is making motorists do a double take. It's not selling a product, but it is about advertising.

The billboards have been put up by the pro-teen-abstinence group, JustWait. The billboard reads:

"Girls, if it's not for sale don't advertise.

While some find the message sexist in the way it targets girls, Scott Hughes, director of Just Wait, says it's really more about teenage boys.

"Guys are turned on visually by what they see, so it's really saying guys aren't men enough to control themselves, therefore you have to be careful on how you present yourself," says Hughes.

"It was just something to raise the awareness that girls are treated the way that they dress sometimes, unfortunately, and that they're so much more beautiful and precious. Their beauty is on the inside and not in the clothes they wear," explains Hughes.

College students who spoke to 10 News expressed differing views on the billboard's message.

"It probably could have been worded a little bit differently. I can see how it could be offensive to some people," says twenty-year old college student Lyndsay Smith.

But 19-year old Christina Wase sees value in the message.

"I think the reality is, if you're wearing stuff like that, you are in a way selling yourself to guys," says Wase.

Jennifer Sheehan works with victims of sexual assault in Knoxville. She says the billboard sends the wrong message.

"Once again, it really does put the fault of the crime onto the victim, and we all know that no one asks for that kind of crime to be perpetrated against them," says Sheehan.

Hughes says JustWait just wants to get their message out.

"Sometimes, when they dress that way and guys see them that way, they're not deemed as valuable, they're seen as an object," says Scott Hughes.

This is not the only billboard from JustWait, or even the first to generate controversy. Hughes says a punchy message makes s stronger point.

"We want to be catchy. We want to make sure people see the message. We've done some real catchy billboards in the past, and we have some up currently that generate some good buzz," says Hughes.

In addition to posting the billboards, JustWait workers go into middle and high schools to teach students how to say no to sex.

[xmas74]

38. I think he gets off on that shit.

Otherwise, he wouldn't spend so much time thinking about the way a girl dresses and what that signifies.
All because she dresses a certain way doesn't mean that she "puts out". Just another fundie trying to make excuses for date rape.

[Mutley]

42. Fuck those people.

You should put on your skimpiest outfit and stand right under that sign all day. :rofl:

[BlondieK143]

46. Well, I would.

But I'd hate for the drivers that passed to throw up their breakfasts, lunches, and dinners. :D

[cleofus1]

47. pictures

Polaroids will do...

[Mutley]

48. Oh stop!

People would love it! I've seen your pic, you can't fool me. You're HOT!

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

49. So.. let me get this straight...

It's always the girls' fault because they dress a certain way and guys aren't responsible for their actions? Riiiiiight.

[Beware the Beast Man]

61. Yeah, well Eve's the one that ate the apple.

:eyes:

These people are something else. Naturally, it's the woman's fault. She had it coming to her. :sarcasm:

[Lannes]

64. Looks like a billboard from a guy who got turned down alot

:)

[cleofus1]

65. lol

tha's probably true:woohoo: