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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:56 PM
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Saw trailer for that idiot jingoistic rah rah america POS Jessica Lynch
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 06:08 PM by Rabrrrrrr
story last night at the theater, as well as the Return of the King one.

Saw the trailer for that abomination of lies and idiot jingoisitc propaganda for the Jessica Lynch story, which we already know is a lie, but which they're pushing anyway. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS: the attitude of the crowd when they showed the trailer was one of *disgust*! I booed it, and no one told me to shut up, and I could FEEL the mood in the place move into disgust as soon as the clip started. It was palpable, and this was a crowd that, for whatever reason, was getting along with lots of banter amongst different groups and joyful shout outs to each other, and it went from that ultimate happy "hey we're all here together having fun and we're all NYU students" kind of feel to immediate abjection and near anger during that clip. The movie looks absolutely terrible and full of lies and falsity and shit that never, ever happened.

Please note: I mean POS MOVIE, not that I think Ms. Lynch is a POS. I think she's just fine and ducky. I'm offended by the movie treatment of her story and turning it into a propaganda piece. Stalin would be so proud.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:58 PM
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1. Wha....? Is this a Major Hollywood Film Release?
I had thought for certain that the Lynch movie would be relegated to minor cable TV outlets, and that I could merrily avoid it.

WTF?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:04 PM
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2. yeah, it's for TV. I think it was NBC.
At the theater I was at, whatever the TV station is has a show they call "2wenty", which is 20 minutes of advertising for their shows and movies and some other public service stuff (one about battered women last night, with a short video by that abomination new singer woman with name starting with "A").
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:06 PM
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3. Why do you have to insult Jessica Lynch?
Don't you have any respect for her?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:07 PM
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4. No, it should say "POS Jessica Lynch MOVIE"
Ran out of room, forgot to put it in the post.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:10 PM
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5. Why respect her
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 06:13 PM by Kamika
No why should you have any respect for her?

I have respect for EVERYONE in her unit that either died or lived.
I have respect for EVERY soldier that went and saved her
I have a basic respect for every human being in this world who isnt a hypocrit. That means i even respect freepers that stands for what they believe in

I Don't have any respect for Jessica Lynch


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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:16 PM
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6. Exactly
She knows what lies are being told in this movie, but won't do anything about it because it might move the decimal point over to the left a few spaces on her check.

I don't care what kind of contract she entered into, or what's been said to her. If she had any integrity, she wouldn't allow any attempts to glamorize what she went through, and definitely wouldn't allow herself to be used as a rah rah cheerleader for this war.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:21 PM
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7. she is selling out
allowing herself to be used as pro-illegal-war tool for money. As a female vet, I feel she is an embarrassment. I do not respect her.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:28 PM
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8. Thanks to you all for your comments -
maybe it was a good thing I couldn't fit "movie" - now I'm not so sure about Ms. Lynch. I'd like to know if she had an authority ver the final story or not, or if she was threatened if she were to speak out against the movie.

But yes, she has, barring circumstances we don't know, sold herself for a very bad and poor cause.

I bet the freeps have pictures of her on their walls at home...
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:53 PM
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20. UPI Aug 7, "Pfc. Lynch withdraws cooperation for movie"

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20030807-081143-3867r.htm
LOS ANGELES, Aug. 7 (UPI) -- Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch has reportedly pulled out of a proposed deal with NBC for a television movie about her ordeal during the war in Iraq.

The New York Times said the Thursday decision followed by just one day an agreement between network executives and Lynch that would have paid her an undisclosed fee for her participation in the movie, which is due to start production in two weeks.
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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2003/July/25/LNtop1b.htm
LOS ANGELES -- NBC said it envisions its Jessica Lynch TV movie as an action-adventure with the Iraqi lawyer who contributed to her rescue as the hero.

The film, being made without Lynch’s participation, will focus less on her and more on the experience of her Army unit and her rescuers, NBC Entertainment President Jeff Zucker said Thursday.
...
The NBC movie is being revised to reflect the latest information, Zucker told the Television Critics Association.

"We’re on the fifth version of that script. We threw the first one out," he said, adding that production is set to begin within days but changes are continuing to be made. The cast wasn’t announced.

He acknowledged that, ultimately, the movie may not offer the definitive account of Lynch’s experience.
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http://newsobserver.com/24hour/nation/story/1037100p-7284169c.html
Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:34PM EST
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - Former POW Jessica Lynch is working to establish a foundation that will be intended to help children of active-duty soldiers, her lawyer says.
...
Her lawyer, Stephen Goodwin, said Lynch wants to set up the foundation in memory of her best friend, Spc. Lori Piestewa, of Tuba City, Ariz., who was killed in the attack. Piestewa left behind two children, Brandon, 5, and Carla, 3.
...
The foundation will be partially funded with proceeds from Lynch's upcoming book, Goodwin said. "I Am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story" is scheduled for released on Veteran's Day.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:07 PM
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22. Yay! I can have more faith in her again!
Let's hope that she is as aghast at this movie as we will be.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:09 PM
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9. Not sure of "selling out" - more like keeping her mouth shut for fear
of having the bill for her rescue and recovery and all that handed to her.

When the Bush adminisration is charging the wounded soldiers for their food in the hospitals, don't you think that they would not stoop to handing her the medical bills to pay? What about the army suddenly realizing who was really at fault, if she starts saying what really happened (other than the hap-hap-happy story of her rescue?)?
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:11 PM
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10. It's called integrity
Im sure she wouldnt have ANY problems finding donors if she needed money.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:02 PM
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11. Seems to be today's version of the movie "The Green Berets"
It's hard to go "rah rah" about anything about the war after what happened this morning. :(
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:12 PM
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12. you may know this
But subject lines can be edited if you need to, with the same time limit of one hour just like the text. :-) D'oh! :D
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:51 PM
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13. I wanted all the words that are in the subject to stay there
sadly, wasn't room for "movie."

But might be better that there wasn't. Though i wouldn't call her a POS directly. I'd rather call her a person of low integrity, or an idiot.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:06 PM
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14. She has served our country
I can't believe that so many people here have so much disrespect for a woman who was a POW.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:17 PM
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15. She was not the only female POW but she may have been
the only blonde haired, blue eyed Aryan princess from small town America to be held as a POW. Although I think POW is pushing it because according to the Iraqi doctor he tried to return her to the army but they would not allow him to do so.

What about a movie about Soshannah Johnson?

Jessica Lynch has allowed herself to be placed in the public eye and as a public citizen she must be willing to accept whatever criticism exists. If she is too fragile then she should have remained a private citizen.

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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:31 PM
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16. You must be really smart
Jingoistic propoganda! Abomination!

Falsity!!!!!!!!

I am truly impressed.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:29 PM
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27. You must like stories being changed to protect the positions of power
of our unelected leader and his administration!

Well, good for you! Good boy!

Yay for rolling over and accepting the propaganda enema. Please, may I have another. Thank you sir!
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Stone Cold Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:39 PM
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17. it's hard to respect someone....
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 09:42 PM by Stone Cold
...when he/she sells their incident and story for some money. Worse yet, it's a story of lies. She should've told the truth of what really happened. I am ashamed that someone could do that. If it was such a horrific time for her, why is she selling her story? Obviously the ordeal didn't harm her at all if she's willing to lie to get money. I, for one, will boycott anything that comes out about that story. Full of right-wing lies. Who knows, maybe she was forced to lie? Wouldn't suprise me. x(
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:27 PM
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18. Shoshanna was shot but she didn't have the right look so
They picked Jessica the Blonde.

Now I wonder if someone from our side shot Shoshanna.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:48 PM
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19. One important thing I'd like all my Fellow DU's here to remember:
I saw an interview with the Doctors and Nurses who were in the hospital where Jessica was being held.....

Without Exception, every one of them said that when the U.S. soldiers
came to get her that it was "no big deal" ...they just simply
"came in the hospital and got the lady" (their words)

As well as I'm sitting on my couch posting this, I bet a dollar to a doughnut that the film will have Rockets firing, Men bravely marching foward...
"going in against all odds"
Patriotic Music played with great emotion and in short, a pack of BULLSHIT!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:03 PM
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21. that's the impression I got from the trailer
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 11:06 PM by Rabrrrrrr
That getting her out of the hospital was hell, that there will be many an explosion and gunfire and rah rah rahing for America, and if it weren't for some courageous Iraqi guy, going against his country, she would never have gotten out.

But hell, i remember reading in the newspapers some time after her "rescue" that, yeah, they just went in and she was allowed to go and they took her home, and then the gov't lied like hell about it to make it out to be the big, daring, bold incredible rescue thing.

I'm really curious about this Iraqi guy they put in the movie - I can't tell what he is, if he's a doctor, or a military guy who was supposed to be guarding the POWs, or what - but does anyone who knows more than I do about Lynch's ordeals know anything about if there was an Iraqi traitor (traitor to Saddam, I mean) who fought tooth and nail against his own government to let her go? because in the movie trailer, we can see that he actually spends time going against his government to let her go free because, as he said in the trailer, "Holding her is an injustice."

Does this guy really exist? And why is he worried about Lynch? What about the other POWs?
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:08 PM
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23. Rabrrrrr..Isn't it amazing that the Repukes....
...don't mind lying their asses off about this story but squeal
like stuffed Pigs if a factual story is going to be shown about one of their own (Ronnie Raygun)....amazing..
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:18 PM
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24. Well, they're paying for this story
The Iraqi lawyer Mohammed is now an employee of the (Bob) Livingston Group lobbying firm, and PR for his book is being handled by Lauri Fitz-Pegado of the infamous Kuwaiti Incubator Baby lies.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=191107#191325
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:24 PM
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25. Wow, it just piles up and piles up, doesn't it?
I wonder why they didn't wait for this movie until either Christmas, or right before the election 2004.

This must mean they have something else already cooking and in the works for 2004, but we all knew that, didn't we?

Just gotta make sure to be moved out of NYC by summer 2004.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:26 PM
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26. Total double standards
Rush is a victim of his doctors and his pain yada yada yada, he deserves rehab and another chance at life.

All other drug users are junkie fucks who should be put away forever, if not outright exterminated. To protect our children.
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