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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:20 PM
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I like Gay peoples !
I'm "strait"(damn I hate that word)but for a reason that I can't understand I feel really comfortable talking with gay peoples.I had a great relationship with my gay uncle(an artist and one of the smartest man I ever met) until he died fro AIDS in december 2003.He wrote me a Christmas card 2 days before he died, alone in his apartment.I believe I'm the only one who cried in the family.What's your opinion?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:22 PM
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1. i Love 'em!!!
:loveya:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:27 PM
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20. why thank you.
SMOOOOOCH! :hi:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:25 PM
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24. MWAH!
:loveya:

:hi:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:29 PM
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25. Right back at ya !
:loveya:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:23 PM
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2. They're swell!
And I like those nice gay friendly hetero people! :-)
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:09 PM
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15. I love you to terrya !
Come up here in Soviet Canuckistan and let's get married !
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:23 PM
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3. Gay people rock.
:shrug:

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jandrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:24 PM
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4. Well, you know....gay people are like......people.
No biggie. My brother is gay. I have some gay and bisexual friends. The gayness issue hardly ever comes up. Most of the time we just talk about.....stuff. Money, kids, gossip, books, movies....stuff.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:06 PM
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14. "gay people are like......people"
Best reply ! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:25 PM
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5. I like gay's too
I even get on fine with straights too. :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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youspeakmylanguage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:25 PM
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6. The problem is you feel there should be a reason to feel uncomfortable.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 04:31 PM by youspeakmylanguage
There is no "reason you can't understand". Just accept the fact that you are comfortable with your own sexuality and that you instinctively understand that gay people are just as worthy of your respect and non-sexual (or sexual, whatever you prefer) companionship as any heterosexual person.

It's called being a civilized, progressive person. Congratulations!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:31 PM
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7. I like peoples in general. We're all in this together.
:hi:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:32 PM
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8. well put
:hi:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:59 PM
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11. Thanks progmom !
You know,I'm sorry if I shocked you with that bimbo thread.I'm French Canadian and I didn't know that that word was so offensive.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:01 PM
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12. that's ok - you changed it - i appreciate it
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:14 PM
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16. Thanks for your understanding.
Now,I'm the type of guy who love to tease and tickle so...
tickle tickle tickle ! BTW I love your posts.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:04 PM
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13. That's my deal too.
I just like people. Makes no difference to me gay, straight, or somewhere in between.

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:17 PM
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17. Same for me ,Left Is Write.
You're absolutely Write ! :)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:33 PM
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9. Opinion on what?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:23 PM
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18. Are you a gay-basher or a tolerant civilized person ?
What's your opinion ?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:36 PM
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23. Ah... well, you should have put that in your post... I wasn't sure on...
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 05:38 PM by Misunderestimator
what you were seeking an opinion. In that case, I am not a gay-basher and I am a civilized person. Tolerant is not a word I like to see in relation to people's interactions with gay people. It connotes to me that you have to do something different (to tolerate) a gay person than you have to do with "strait" people. (And if you don't like the term "strait" don't use it... you can say straight. I hardly ever see "strait" used.)

I found your OP oddly provocative... almost making the hair stand up on the back of my neck, but not quite.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:56 PM
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10. The death of my uncle really devastated me...
I loved to have conversations with him.An intellectual and an artist:He was a talented painter and he was an actor too.He was mostly doing theater but he also had roles on TV.What a lost !
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:24 PM
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19. Well, like any segment of the population,
I think there are some AWESOME gay people and some assholes. I'm very lucky to count several gay/lesbian/transgendered/bi folks among my dearest friends, and I hope that I always can. But I've certainly met a few total assholes as well.

I guess the only segments of the population that I might make a sweeping generalization about are neo-nazis, neocons (that may be redundant), klansmen, serial killers, rapists, child molesters, and right-wing fundamentalists of all religions (Christian, Islam, Scientology, whatever). I think I can safely say that all of them suck and should take a long walk off a short pier.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:29 PM
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21. i love cool straight people. plenty of those here at DU...
and I ((((appreciate)))) it. :hi:
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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:31 PM
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22. Nearly all my friends are gay or "fag hags"
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 05:32 PM by ladeuxiemevoiture
I have a theory as to why I tend not to get along with straight people (setting aside resentment issues):

I believe (as Freud and Kinsey did) that everyone is born bisexual and only comes to be predominantly gay or predominantly straight over time. To straight people, gay people can arouse homosexual feelings which upsets the status quo, i.e., their "straightness." So I often feel subconciously that straight people do NOT want to discuss my lover or my love life or whatever, and that discussion is more limited. With my gay friends, it's anything goes, and I prefer friends like that.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:01 PM
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26. My little story:
When I was a kid, I never even knew there was such a thing as "gay." My parents, the culture, whatever, never pointed it out to me. My parents were not religious, but they weren't particularly hip to the scene, daddy-o, either. Well, when I was about 10 or 11 I began to become aware that there was such a thing as homosexuality. Somehow I must have picked up on a negative connoctation surrounding it, because at first it seemed sort of scary -- because it was different. Then, my best friend, who was into drama and acting, told me that she knew several gay guys and that they were all super nice. That's all it took. She de-mystified the whole thing for me with one sentence and made it cool. From then on, I noticed I always liked being around gay guys more than the majority of straight guys.

Today, I'm in a hetero family of four (mom, dad, boy, girl) and we started an alternative club to the Boy Scouts because we didn't want to go along with an anti-gay agenda. My kids have friends with gay parents and they know that some people grow up and especially love men, some people grow up and especially love women, and either way is fine.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 03:57 AM
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28. I like your little story
I wish more people could be like you
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:50 AM
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38. Thanks ... It's sad that this is even an issue.
nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:03 PM
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27. I hears you can meat them on the internets
:eyes:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 03:58 AM
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29. Gasp!
There's all kinds of perveys on the internets, aint there?:rofl:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:44 AM
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31. ...
:spray:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 04:35 AM
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30. I'm gay but almost all my friends are straight
I used to have a lot more gay friends and acquaintances before I got in a relationship. I didn't deliberately drop them all, but I stopped going to bars and such. Anyway, these are cool straight people, and so are you. Thanks.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:45 AM
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32. Hi, Jeff.
Lord knows why the opposite of gay is straight, but what the hell.

:hi:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:47 AM
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33. wow - i actually never thought about that
should we come up with a new term? (i'm not a big fan of "breeders")
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:58 AM
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36. Definitely not "breeders."
May as well start calling people "nigger" again.

But I don't know what it would be. I just dislike the possible equivalency to the old usage of "straight" -- meaning "on the straight & narrow," or "clean & sober."
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 09:09 AM
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37. Breeders
Nothing really offends me, but I find that term offensive. Sure there are people who have more kids than good sense. But not a real good description of straight people.

I often feel isolated and angry being gay in a straight world. But when I feel like that all I have to do is look around myself. And I see peoples like you, progmama. And I don't have to feel isolated and angry anymore. Straight people rock!

Khash.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:48 AM
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34. My favorite person in the world, my big sis, is gay.....luv em' too.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 08:52 AM
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35. I like gay peoples too
Although I'm probably biased since I am a gay people. I find though that I like straight peoples too. Well, straight women - I still have problems with a lot of straight men.


Khash.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:13 AM
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40. Well, I have a good story for you Khash.
As a straight woman with lots of gay friends (I'm an artist and a graphic designer, so I seem to know more gay people than straight people), I've personally "converted" a lot of formerly slightly homophobic men into open-minded men just by debating with them and introducing them some of my friends. Most of the time, all it takes is some one-on-one experience with someone to realize that it's silly to judge.

When I met my husband, we were both 18 and he'd grown up in a very conservative home. He wasn't a gay-basher by any stretch but the notion of homosexuality was really weird and kinda gross to him. Over time I would debate with him why it was such a problem for him to understand that people just love who they love. I'd introduce him to my gay friends and he found himself liking them just fine and realizing that people are people. THEN, his best friend and college roommate came out of the closet (I knew all along of course, so I was one of the first people he told) and that was it. He realized that a person's sexuality was only one part of them, and it really didn't matter who they loved, just whether or not they were a good person. Now he can watch the most overt gay sex scene in a movie and not bat an eyelash, and loves our gay and lesbian friends as much as I do. Yay for progress!

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:52 AM
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44. Yeah.I'm straight but I feel more comfortable with women too.
Don't know why.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:54 AM
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39. I like PEOPLE.
tolerate is a funny word though. If I said I tolerate "people" it means that they are doing something I'd normally not agree with but I'd let it go anyway ...

so for me ..
I just LIKE people. ALL people.

make sense?

:hi:
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:35 AM
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41. I thought that everyone is gay. n/t
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:36 AM
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42. 'splain?
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:56 AM
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45. Everyone is gay
is a line from a song. Sorry if you did'nt get the reference.

But if one were to use the Bell Curve standards and apply them here one will find that there is a sliver of people who are just not gay, there will be a sliver of people who are just gay, and then there is the vast majority of people who fall in the middle and you can call them what you want.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:57 AM
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46. sorry that i missed the reference
thanks for explaining. :)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:39 AM
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43. I have no problem with gay people whatsoever
and I personally feel that anyone who does have a problem with them does not belong on DU. www.freerepublic.com might be a better choice for them.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 12:11 PM
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47. Hehehe. Agreed !
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