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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:58 PM
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Oh my neighbors really made me mad today.. ANIMAL DUMPING
My aunt lives across the street from me with her deadbeat son and his neurotic gf in the basement. We found out GF is pregnant AGAIN and is still going to the meth clinic, drinking beer like its going out of style, smoking 1 pack a day, and still doing heroin.

Well.. my aunt isnt the problem.. its them. We were over on her porch having coffee and she said her son took their cat and their grandson to get rid of the cat. They were SICK of the cat. This was their 2nd cat that they got rid of because they were SICK of it.

Beautiful tiger cat.. real sweetheart too. I feel so bad for these animals that they get and 'dispose' of because they get sick of them. I'm willing to bet that she got rid of the cat because shes afraid of the 'cat and baby' myth. Meanwhile look above.

She said that they were taking the cat to the farm up the road (which btw isnt a working farm - only has couple horses and has no cats).

Poor cat is going to die from starvation/lack of water or get killed.

WHY DO THEY KEEP GETTING PETS AND GETTING RID OF THEM!?!?!?!??!! DONT GET ONE IF YOU DONT WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY!

Sorry I am really pissed off.. I dont care if it was a rat, hamster, frog, etc. YOU DONT DO THAT.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:59 PM
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1. That's terrible
:(
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:05 PM
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2. Isnt it?
I lost all respect for them the first time they dumped a cat off. Now the 2nd cat? Ignorant.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:10 PM
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5. Hell I lost respect when you said she was drinking, smoking and doing...
.herion while pregnant. The cat dumping just made me even angrier
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:24 PM
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7. Well yeah... I havent spoke to them in ages.
I havent spoke to them since I found out they were being busted for welfare fraud.

Shes sickening.

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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:05 PM
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3. I knew I shouldn't have clicked this.
That shit just makes me so damn mad. :(
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:06 PM
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4. I didnt want to write it.. but I needed to vent.
I cant understand why people do this shit.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:36 PM
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43. me too. go get the cat, honey, and take it some place nice, like a
no kill shelter.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:12 PM
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6. What do you really expect from them?
It doesn't sound like they can even take care of themselves, let alone a pet or a baby for that matter.

Sounds like your Aunt is doing most of the care-taking around there. Why does she put up with it?

But, yeah I hear ya. Although I must say that if I was in your shoes, I'd be more concerned about your nephew's welfare than the cats.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:27 PM
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9. Hes my cousin.. which I am concerned.
She was convicted and pleaded guilty to child endangerment couple years ago. Police found her drunk and passed out in her car with their then year old in the backseat.

As far as my aunt? I have NO idea what she is thinking. She keeps saying 'hes the kids mother bla bla bla bla bla'. Its amazing. If that was my kid I wouldnt be putting up with it.

The kid is with my aunt 99% of the time anyway. Shes too either drunk or passed out to watch him so my aunt takes him. Its pathetic.

The cat is just icing on the cake.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:02 PM
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11. What a mess
I'm glad at least your Aunt is picking up the slack. Poor kid.



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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:22 PM
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12. Tell me about it...
we're in a high mid class neighborhood too. I try and help out as much as I can - ie when I have my kids out I'll watch him as well. Its just becoming too much with me due in a month and having my own two kids.

He ran across the road a few weeks ago with metal gardening shears (really long scissor looking things). Hes mildly autistic/mentally handicapped and I was like O M G. Grabbed him and sent the shears flying on the road. His parents no where in sight.

The poor child is going to be really lost when she has the baby.. Thank god shes due in Dec/Jan and he wont be outside.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:43 PM
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17. Poor kid. Mentally handicapped? It's probably all that drug use
by her.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:02 PM
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19. He was in the hospital for a month after he was born.
My aunt covered it up by saying he had breathing problems. He was then transferred to a 'home that showed her how to care for a kid' then came home with her.

I dont want to say anything about what could've caused it, but I have a brother who is severely handicapped and my mom didnt do anything while she was pregnant. Sad.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:45 PM
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23. 1. She already has a case worker from CPS coming monthly.
2.) The farm is a 100+ acre farm... If I knew about this before hand I would've taken the cat and found it a better home.
3.) I do not have a lax attitude.. I worked at a shelter for volunteer work and I've adopted 3 animals from shelters.
4.) I'm not overly fond of you pointing fingers at me for something that I DIDN'T DO OR HAD NO CONTROL OF. Take your flame bait and go somewhere else. You dint know the whole situation so dont give me your condescending attitude.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:51 PM
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28. I don't think you have a lax attitude.
My uncle and his wife had a bad drinking problem. Raising kids too. But even they didn't dump their animals.
Supposedly now they are better. I don't know, as I haven't seen them in ages.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:53 PM
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29. If I had a lax attitude I wouldnt have posted and told my aunt off.
If I could've done something I would've... but I didnt know until it was too late. So now its my fault because I wasnt the psychic wonder of the world and knew what they were doing before they did.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:40 PM
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15. dupe
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:40 PM by lizzy

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:40 PM
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16. Well, hello! You are obviously aren't the cat lover.
:spank:
These people shouldn't own any cats, it's horrible.
Obviously, they shouldn't breed either, but that's another story.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:13 PM
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20. Actually we have two wonderful cats
and my daughters dog while she is in college.

But I do have more compassion for the kid caught up in this whole mess than the cat. Just my rural sensabilities, I guess. I'm very used to animals being mistreated around me by my neighbors. Dogs kept outdoors all the time on 6ft of chain with little shelter, that sort of thing.

One neighbor's (adult) kid was keeping a rottweiler pup at their house for a while. He told his mom that you have to treat that kind of dog mean, to get it to obey you.

What an idiot. Poor dog was scared of everyone and probably will be a dangerous animal.

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:25 PM
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8. A lot of sick ass people do this, A LOT!
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:30 PM
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10. I'm surprised she hasnt dumped her kid off yet.
She doesnt care/watch him anyway. The kicker - shes 40 and my cousin is 58. You think she'd know better.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:26 PM
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13. And this is one of the reasons that Wisconsin wanted legal cat hunting
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:27 PM by Rabrrrrrr
I have relatives who live on farms that just happen to be the right distance from town for the townie fucks who are "tired" of their pets, to dump cats and dogs on their land.

A couple families in my extended family have this problem (and they live various parts of WI), and I was talking with them about it a couple weeks ago when WI was considering the cat killing law. They wanted the law not because they want to kill cats - but because every year, they get flooded with unwanted animals that fuck things up, become a nuisance, and otherwise hurt the farms.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:47 PM
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26. Well that doesn't mean the cats deserve to die.
Maybe we should have stricter laws that target irresponsible pet owners rather than laws that permit people to shoot a helpless cat.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:54 PM
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30. And I would totally agree
And so would my family - they'd much rather shoot the asshole who dumps the aniamls because they aren't cute any more, or too "bothersome" to take care of, or have lost their novelty, than they would shoot a cat.

But, sad truth is, imagine you have a farm or other country property and every summer you get 30 or 40 or more cats and dogs let off in your yard. You can't support them all, they can't support themselves. Something has to be done.

Mostly, I think pet keeping is unethical to begin with, so we should just ban all pets. Obviously, that ain't gonna happen, so we're stuck with what we have.

And we should levy huge fucking fines for anyone who dumps a pet OR mistreats it in any way.

AND we should also provide more funding for the animal shelters, and let people drop off pets they no longer want more easily, and at no cost. Sure, it would be great to say "You were a dick to get this dog to begin with, you should pay a thousand dollars to drop your animal off here" but truth is, that's why they dump; in the country, so they don't have to pay to drop the animal off.

make it free, and make the fine for dumping excessive, and a lot of problems might be solved.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:58 PM
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32. Keeping pets is unethical?
What do you think cat's natural habitat would be?
:eyes:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:58 PM
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40. Slavery is ethical?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:14 PM
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41. Slavery? Well, I guess I will tell my pets to go and get a job.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 08:15 PM by lizzy
Have them make a living for a change...
You know, then maybe they will move out, get their own apartment, buy their own food, pay their own vet bills.
Who exactly is slave to who? I work for them, not the other way around.
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
As for you, sounds like you have been brainwashed by PETA to a point of no return.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:39 PM
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44. Hah hah.
Yeah, well, whatevah.


Me with PETA - that's rich. Bwuhahaha!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:52 PM
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45. No? You seem to share the same philosophy.
As for slavery, the vet bill is going to get me broke.
Vets must think money grow on trees!
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:38 PM
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14. Turn them in. In most places, dumping animals is against the law.
I lived on a farm as a child and people were always dumping animals. I remember finding three tiny kittens that were only about a week old (eyes weren't open yet) at the end of the road to the farm. We tried to save them, but kitten formula was not available and they were allergic cow's milk.

I'm still angry at the people who did that. It was a horrible way for the little things to die.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:00 PM
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18. I;d love to but I'm not 100% sure if thats is the place he dumped her.
That is so sickening - a week old. At least this cat has a fighting chance compared to a week old kitten. Makes me ill.

If I did turn him in, they'd know 100% who did it. They already think I'm the one who turned them in for welfare fraud (which I'm not). I just hope they dont get another cat.

If there was such thing as forced sterilization, she should be the first to get it.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:30 PM
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21. Cat would be better off at the SPCA, anyway you could have...
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 04:34 PM by Tallison
...redirected her? It's a tough situation, but you're right that if the cat's thoroughly domesticated and accustomed to being cared for, he/she will not have the wares to survive long independently, and ultimate euthenasia is preferrable to a slow, agonizing death from dehydration or malnutrition (Ugh - PEOPLE!!!.

If they've already set the cat loose, I hope he/she is at least spayed/neutered (unlike the family) to keep the problem from perpetuating even further...

Amazing how readily forgiving children and animals are of adults for this type of abuse/neglect...just want to be cared for, no matter how many chances it takes.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:46 PM
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24. I didnt know until the cat was already gone.
I think the cat IS spayed so that is a good thing..

I have a cat that was abused and it took a LONG time to build her trust but you know what Its worth it to show her that she can be loved.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:03 PM
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34. What's your aunt's attitude about all this?
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 05:19 PM by Tallison
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:43 PM
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36. She doesnt know what else to do either..
her son loves this woman and she doesnt want to lose her grandson. She also dislikes animals and didnt want her to bring the cat in the first place.

Her grandson is her life and thats the only reason why she still lives here instead of moving.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:46 PM
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25. They are all the problem
Your aunt is enabling these freeloading users and you are enraged but unwilling to do anything about it. They should be turned in to Child Protective Services and so what if they know you're the one who turned them in?

As for whether or not that's actually the place the cat was dumped, it doesn't matter. It should be reported and the authorities should be told what little you know. They will figure it out from there.

As long as people continue to allow these morans to take no responsibility for their actions, they will continue to abuse both children and animals. It's as simple as that.
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:51 PM
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27. The cops here wont care.. trust me.
They are already involved with CPS since the day their son was born. I dont know how they're slipping through the cracks. I'm enraged but I have no idea where to go - the CPS here is under investigation itself. I'm thinking of calling the humane society.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:55 PM
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31. I do understand the frustration
And I'm not passing judgement - I know all I know of the situation is what you've outlined. But every time CPS gets a report, at least that documents another instance of concern. Perhaps eventually, that will add up and cause some kind of action to be taken. At least you'd have the knowledge that you made the effort.

Calling the humane society might be a good idea too. Once again, at least you've tried.

Good luck in whatever you do with it. :hug:
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:00 PM
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33. Thanks
:hug: I dont know how they can get away with what they do to their son and animals. I'd die for my kids health and safety/welfare more than what she can say. I wouldnt take an animal that I couldnt take care of properly and I wouldnt be on my 3rd child if I didnt care about my kids.

Its amazing what goes through peoples minds and how they operate. They'll get their day.. At least I hope so.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:13 PM
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35. If the cat is such a sweetheart, would you taking consider it?
I agree! This is criminal behavior.:grr:

Domestic cats cannot just figure out how to live on some farm. Household pets can't be expected to live on their own and fend for themselves. My last kitty, who I rescued myself from outside, was abandoned and it took time, patience and dedicated and expensive veterinary care to get her back to being a normal pet. And, after all that time on her own, she improved greatly with me, but was always easily traumatized. She was lucky to have survived at all.;(

Can't you report these people to somebody? ASPCA, Humane Society, Animal Control? In NY State, we have pretty tough animal protection and anti-cruelty laws, which we're working to make tougher, all the time. *sigh*

As for the pregnant addict, words fail me. Hearing about this poor kitty was more than I could stomach.
:puke:
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purr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:45 PM
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37. I just adopted a cat.. 3 cats is enough for me.
I too have a shelter cat that was abused.. she has come a LONG way since I adopted her.

I called the humane society and left a message. Hopefully someone will call me back soon.

If I knew she was getting rid of it I would've found her a home.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:59 PM
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38. I know and I'm sorry.
I think that you need to lay down the law here. Your aunt sounds like the most reasonable of the bunch, and you may have a chance of getting through to her. Also, she seems to be the one in charge, poor woman. Let us know how this turns out. I still have hope for the cat, at least.:-(

And kudos to you for adopting a difficult kitty. I took my cat to a different vet, and the one who I now swear by. It cost me a small fortune to treat all her health problems that had been overlooked by the first place I took her. The only reason that I brought her there was because my regular, local vet didn't think he could deal with a feral, which she turned out not to be, so I went to the place that had lent me the "have-a-heart" trap that I eventually had to use to bring this cat inside. I fed her outside for 3 1/2 long months and I was panicking because it was getting colder. Turned out that her major problem was damaged teeth. Dental surgery turned her into a completely different cat, would sit by the computer monitor while I typed and, sometimes, would even jump up in the chair with me. She liked to look out of the bay window, but sure had no desire to return outside. I just wish that I had known about the dental problem sooner, since pain must have been the major reason for her skittishness, poor kitty. Now I take all my pets to this great vet.:-)
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:46 PM
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39. Would you consider taking in stray humans?
I'm only a little feral....and some dental work would improve my disposition too.

You sound like an excellent caregiver.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:09 PM
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42. Dental work? Well, there went you chance. Those things cost
a fortune.
:silly:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 02:55 AM
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46. Sure, why not?
Of course, it also depends on exactly how feral you are. My cat was not a true feral, only one who had been abandoned and lost trust, and I had a hell of a time bringing her in.

Would I have to use another "have-a-heart" trap? That was an experience that I'm not sure I'm up to repeating. Would I have to stand outside, every night at 2am, calling and waiting and hoping you'd appear? That can be emotionally draining.

As for the dental work, it's equally as important for humans as for pets. The difference is that we know when something hurts, but animals can't tell us. But I am as fortunate in my dentist, as I am with my vet, so you'd get excellent care.

And if you promise that, afterwards, you'd sit up here on the desk by the computer monitor, watching me type, you've got a deal.

And, thanks. I sure try. But I tend to take senior pets. So how old are you, anyway?:evilgrin:
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:40 PM
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47. I'm fully house-broken
and I tend to come when I'm called. I can fetch, am a decent pack animal, and can follow simple commands.

I'm a good guard dog too. I have a nasty growl, but I haven't actually bitten anyone since I was a pup.

As far as watching you type, as long as I get an occasional scratch behind my ears, it's all good.

And I'm 301 in dog years, so I guess that's a ripe old age.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:38 PM
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49. Wow! Anyone would be a fool not to snap you up!
Compared to my two dogs, you're vastly superior! If I had any sense, I'd make a two-for-one trade! The little one is a Brussels Griffon, notoriously difficult to house train, plus he's on a diuretic! And the other one, while she certainly knows her name, definitely has a mind of her own. Neither one of them is anywhere near being able to fetch, and, in fact, have dental issues. (Though I thought that this was your issue, as well.)

And all dogs are pack animals. For my guys, this means that they don't want to be far from me. The little one has developed separation anxiety and is permanently grafted to my body. They both are great listeners, but that doesn't mean that they'll do what I'm asking. And the little one is an excellent guard dog, will take on any comer. The unfortunate problem is that he's only eight lbs. And the other one has a huge and commanding bark. Unfortunately, she usually chooses to let loose when I'm trying to merge into traffic. And she does bite, but only when I'm feeding her chicken. I have to count my fingers.

And I'm willing to scratch you behind your ears for watching me do all this typing. You sound like an ideal pet to me, but I have only one problem. I thought that you were a cat. I like cats and I like dogs, and mixed breeds are fine. But I'm not sure if I'm ready for a mix between a dog and a cat. I'd rather that you were one or the other.
:scared:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:44 PM
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48. I am not a cat lover, and I have had kittens dumped in my yard.
But I could not stand to see these poor little animals abandoned and subjected to the outside environment, so I contacted rescue groups in my area and managed to find homes for them.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:49 PM
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50. My hick cousin does that
She just loves the little kitties and refuses to have the mother cat spayed. Then she takes them out to the countyside and dumps them. I have NEVER been able to talk any sense into that POS. But, she also decided when she turned 50 that she was going to be a "cuntry sanger". She sang at a few truck stops so some of the kitties wound up there. Hopefully some kindly truckers took them in.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:57 PM
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51. While I was on a recent road trip
I saw a person throw a kitten out of a moving pickup truck. I called 911 (cell phone and I had no idea of the local sheriff # where I was) and gave them the plate # and described the vehicle. I found the kitten which had road rash all over it's little face and side. I now have one more mouth to feed. :)

I the next day I called the police where it happened and provided them with the vet bills. It seems the person was caught and he will be forced to pay for the kittens care! :bounce:
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