Adventures of arguing with Republicans

[FunkyLeprechaun]

With Republicans on another board (on the Army lowering their goals):

Me: "They like to say they're not in a crisis, but they are. Mothers of HS graduates has told their children not to enlist. I've asked known republicans, who seemed quite fit and clever, why they haven't enlisted since they're so for the war. They use some sort of excuse such as, "school's more important!" (John Kerry put his education on hold to go to Vietnam), "didn't have time" so on. One Republican actually enlisted after I told him to do so. Gave him a hug, and told him to be careful. Saw him in his uniform and all.

That's why I've joined Operation Yellow Elephant, it's mottoes are "because ranting is better than enlisting" and "sign up or shut up." We like to point out the Republican hypocrisy to the war (Bush stating that people should support him in the war, yet his daughters aren't enlisted. His daughters haven't found jobs yet)."

Republican 1: Since no one in your family has served in the military, I suggest that you shut up and stop judging others.

Me: "Ok, so have your kids served yet?

The point of this argument is: why are you so gung-ho about the war, yet tell your children not to enlist now?

Hmm?

*hears pin drop*"

Republican 2: "Z that pin you hear dropping was your last brain cell falling out..

You have a handicap and can't serve but you think that gives you the right to tell other people what they should do.. I get the picture and I just wish I was one of the people you decided should serve. I would have you crying & running to moma after about 10 mins. of chewing your azz out..

Read my lips... Shut up about the Army... You have been proven wrong over & over again and your track record isn't going to get any better.."

Me: "Well then, I'll tell you to shut up about the war.

If you won't shut up, you should go and enlist."

Republican 2: "At least I give moral support to our troops & CIC by not attacking them in word or deed but you call them losers while they are fighting & dying for what you call a worthless cause..

I also pay a lot of taxes that go to support the war. While you're living off others & do nothing but bit*h. I think I know who is going to be a worthless cause & it isn't the war in Iraq. Some people are just a waste of the space they take up in America but are very good at giving advice while sponging off the good other people do."

Me: "Ok then, enlist.

I'm not b*tching here, I'm just putting it out in plain terms."

I've seen a picture of Republican 2, he seems quite young. It's fun to argue with these people on this board (both R and D).

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. I would have told Rep. 2

that the war is illegal and immoral. I have would have asked how much money he/she has donated to the local Guard unit. I'd remind him that he should walk his talk-if he thinks this war is so great and wonderful, he should be shouldering a rifle. I am a hard-working taxpaying American, so please don't incinuate that all liberals are welfare leeches. In fact, the only people I personally know who are on welfare are Republicans.

[Montauk6]

5. I'm hip!

What, this guy thinks that because HE drank the Kool-Aid, his tax dollars are earmarked with some special aura of divinity as opposed to ours???

All you DU'ers sucking the system dry from your welfare demands, please raise your hand... (crickets chirping)

I'd ask this idiot not why he hasn't enlisted but why he's not camped out on the Capitol lawn screaming bloody murder about the cuts in military pay (for starters).

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. very good points

when I talk to known freepers, I talk about the cuts in veteran's benefits and the shaft wounded soldiers are getting. So far, they have been silent about that.

[BattyDem]

2. I love this logic ...

"At least I give moral support to our troops & CIC by not attacking them in word or deed ..."

So ... it's better to keep your mouth shut and not question anything our government is doing instead of speaking up and getting their asses out of that hellhole they're stuck in? Yeah ... I'm sure the troops really appreciate that! :eyes:

[johnnie]

3. There is no getting thru to them

I have a friend who lives in Texas (I'm in Ohio) and she is a georgie supporter. She then wanted to see all the brown people in Iraq die because A) They attacked our country and B) The bible said "we" should have killed all of them back during biblical times.
Her son got involved in some legal crap at home and charges were dropped if he enlisted. He enlisted in the Army which I find to be respectable. Now, it's all about her son. I was on the phone with her earlier and she said "those people are gonna want to kill my son and deserve to die". She is making this all about her. I am pretty tolerant toward people either wat they think, but in the back of my mind I am thinking that she supported the fucker in office, she supported the war, her son got into trouble and had to enlist and now she wants sympathy for her son's situation. She talks to me like I have no opinion on the matter because she has a son in the service and I don't.
It's very difficult to talk to her and i had enough and just clicked the phone off. I hope and pray that nothing happens to her son as I do with all the sons and daughter over there now, but I was against this shit from the get go and just because it's her son, it doesn't change my mind. This war is and was fucking bullshit and that's it.

[BlueManDude]

4. Gave it up a while ago. Now I just shun them.

They'll figure it out sooner or later whether they admit it publicly or not.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

6. Moral support does them no good when they're under fire with no armor...

Or when they've come home suffering PTSD or a lost limb and can't get the proper medical care because Republicans have consistently underfunded Veterans affairs. (That's one of the major reasons I voted for Paul Wellstone: he fought for the vets when they came home.)

The only support the troops want is fire support. (I heard that on this board from some of our resident vets a while ago.)

[FunkyLeprechaun]

8. More Adventures

I asked a female republican if she would ask her kids to enlist.

Republican 3: "i did, she didn't want to, now she's working 16/7 and has two boys to raise. When she was 18, the military was so full she wasn't needed. Get off the ur horse already, u can't enlist and you have no kids, so stfu!!"

That's some excuse I've heard of!

[FunkyLeprechaun]

9. Also

just wanted to clarify that I'm a 24 year old university student (almost done with my undergrad career) and I'm also deaf so physically unable to serve.

Does that make me unexperienced to tell people to go enlist? Hm??

(BTW I bought that Operation Yellow Elephant shirt)