Stopped my Bush* loving pug boss in her

[ikojo]

tracks the other day. She was saying how she really likes * because he begins all meetings with prayer and there is bible study going on.
I responded, that is what they tell you but it may not be true.

She said she did not like Clinton because he had extra marital affairs.
I then said that * was pretty wild until he grew up at the age of 40. And that while he claims to be such a Christian he obviously did not raise his kids as Christians because they are very wild.
My boss then said, "well it's got to be hard to grow up in the spotlight as they have."
My response, "Chelsea Clinton grew up in a greater spotlight (after all she was 12 when Clinton went to the White House) and she was not a drunken whore and is quite the young lady. The same is true of Amy Carter."


STOPPED HER IN HER TRACKS! She had no response except to admit she liked Carter when he was pres and now.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Hypocrites one and all. They have no answers when faced with facts.

[ikojo]

4. What gets me is that she made a big

deal of telling everyone who asked about each of her daughters' weddings that they were virgins when they both got married. She said they could REALLY wear white.

Yet, she thinks * is a "Christian"! I seriously doubt HIS daughters would pass her virginity test.

[jeff30997]

7. How can she be so sure that they're virgins ?

Because they told her so ? Come-on! :eyes:

[BrklynLiberal]

10. I was going to ask that same question...

[hyphenate]

17. Erm,

I don't want to challenge anyone, but in my viewpoint, what is SO great about being a virgin before you get married? If you're still a virgin, it just means you have to make a complete committment to someone with whom you might even be compatible on a sexual level.

Notice once again that "Christians" REALLY have problems with the naturalness of sexuality. They'd rather see violence, hatred and lies in the white house than a little enjoyment of a natural bodily function. Really sad.

[ismnotwasm]

19. How embarrassing!

Do her daughters know she discusses stuff like that? Most young women would be horrified, virgin or no virgin. Blech. Sounds like an idiot.

[DemBones DemBones]

22. I've known people who claimed that they KNEW

their daughters had always behaved themselves, were entitled to wear white, etc. The sort of moms who insist they "always knew where she was and who she was with."

Now, I have a daughter about the same age as most of these paragons of virtue and one of these girls talked to my daughter about all the lying and sneaking around she did in order to go clubbing in Atlanta, which is nearly 100 miles from here! This was when she was in high school.

But even funnier is that HER mother laughed at another girl's mother because SHE believed that her daughter broke her leg at cheerleading practice when she actually broke it jumping out the window of a men's dorm! Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

One thing I was NEVER stupid enough to say was "My kid would NEVER ___________."
If you say that, you can bet your ass that your kid WILL!

[Crazy Guggenheim]

2. That's how to handle it!

[nytemare]

3. Doh!!

That is something FOX news watchers especially need to understand. Just because they say it, does not mean it is true.

[ikojo]

8. I try to get this across to my sister all the

time, that actions matter more than words. Words are cheap and getting cheaper with each passing day of the * (mis)administration.

Anytime I approach politics with my * loving sister she gets real defensive. I think she gets defensive because she is basically poor and does not benefit from anything * does. Her daughter is on Medicaid as is her grandson and her son-in-law has a crappy low-wage nowhere job.

I do make it a point to let her daughter know that she is accessing programs that the party she and her mother support would love to do away with. I hope someday it opens her mind or at least plants a seed of doubt.

HOW CAN I BE RELATED TO THESE PEOPLE!!!!!

[nytemare]

9. My sister doesn't trust any politician, but is pretty much republican

I was proud of her when I saw her reading "Bushworld" last week, though.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

5. Remember this, the press never asked * if whether or not he did.

[jeff30997]

6. Way to go ikojo !

Yoda would be proud.:)

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. Bully for you! *high five*

[caty]

12. A tour of duty for the bush girls

would set them on the straight and narrow.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

13. So when are her kids going to enlist?

[ikojo]

14. According to my boss one of her daughters did

consider joining the MO National Guard, knowing she may be deployed to Iraq. However, she got pregnant (they'd been married for little over a year when she became preggers). She is an RN and wanted to help wounded soldiers.

[xmas74]

15. Tell her she could join now!

I know of a police officers wife who just signed up for active duty as an RN. They even gave her a sign on bonus because of her training as a nurse.
They have a child together. He's keeping the kid while she completes her training and then they will relocate together. He said that the money is decent.
MO Natl Guard is hurting right now. Tell her to sign up. If's she's pregnant, they'll take her name and due date and probably call back when she has the baby. Heck, I know of one person here who joined the Guards and they knew he couldn't make weight. The recruiter came over every morning for four months and acted as a personal trainer until he could make weight for MEPS.

[ikri]

16. Don't forget

To ask her how often * goes to church.

Every Born Again Christian I've ever met has made church their second home, most would probably try to move in given the opportunity. Yet * hardly ever seems to go unless there's a pre-arranged TV opportunity.

I'm pretty sure that Clinton was at church virtually every sunday and never made a big deal of his Christianity, yet * is hardly ever at church but makes a huge deal of his Christianity.

:shrug:

[ikojo]

18. There was an article in the

New Republic about how * is rarely seen in church.

http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20041011&s=sullivan...

WHY W. DOESN'T GO TO CHURCH.
Empty Pew
by Amy Sullivan Post date: 10.05.04
Issue date: 10.11.04

Most Americans are aware that George W. Bush is a religious man. He is, after all, the man who presided over a religious revival of sorts at the Republican National Convention. He is the man who has pioneered what could be called cardio-diplomacy, judging world leaders--and, at times, entire nations--by their "hearts." He is the subject of at least four spiritual hagiographies currently in bookstores, and one religious documentary ("George W. Bush: Faith in the White House"). Most famously, Americans know him as the man who, when asked to cite the philosopher who had the greatest influence on him, named Jesus Christ.


snip

Around Washington, D.C., it's considered bad form to point out that Bush doesn't regularly attend church. "You don't have to go to church to be a good religious person," argue his defenders. And they're right. They have made much political hay, however, over polls that indicate Democratic voters attend church less frequently than Republicans, so even the most brazen feel compelled to offer explanations for Bush's absence from church membership rolls.

The first excuse conservatives provide is that Bush can't possibly be expected to have time to go to church, what with being leader of the free world and all. Yet, during Jimmy Carter's four years in the White House, he found time not only to attend a Baptist church in the Washington, D.C., area, but to teach Sunday school there as well. For a presidential delegator like Bush--who has freed up enough time to spend approximately one-third of his presidency on vacation--finding a few hours for church should be a snap.

snip

If time and security aren't the reasons, what excuse does that leave? The very fact that the president doesn't attend church, some leading conservatives insist, is proof of what a good Christian he is. Unlike certain past presidents they could name but won't--ahem, cough, Bill Clinton--Bush doesn't feel the need to prove his religiosity. "This president has not made an issue of where he goes to church," says Michael Cromartie of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. "I find it refreshing that we don't have a president coming out of church with a large Bible under his arm." Conservatives relish this opportunity for a little gratuitous Clinton-bashing. In private, however, they admit the explanation doesn't hold up. "I really don't get it," one prominent Bush partisan told me. "There's no reason why the president couldn't find a church around here if he wanted to."

[DemBones DemBones]

20. A GREAT article!!! Just one paragraph

"Around Washington, D.C., it's considered bad form to point out that Bush doesn't regularly attend church. "You don't have to go to church to be a good religious person," argue his defenders. And they're right. They have made much political hay, however, over polls that indicate Democratic voters attend church less frequently than Republicans, so even the most brazen feel compelled to offer explanations for Bush's absence from church membership rolls. "

is enough to stop most RWers in their tracks. But the article goes on and on!

[joneschick]

21. just one brief comment for the pResident

Don't *tell* me you're a Christian, show me. No really, show me.

[Jamastiene]

23. Bravo!

I like your no nonsense intelligent approach to debating repugs. You are candidate material.