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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:19 PM
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Business attire
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 02:19 PM by Allenberg
I've been informed that I begin in-office training for my new job on Monday, and that I should be in business attire. Keep in mind, I've been in the military nearly since high school (6 years), so I'm not too hip on what's what. I'm short on funds, but I have a nice collection of slacks, dress shirts, ties, and sport coats. Would these be suffice, or should I be out trying on suits?

EDIT: Got the typo :D
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:19 PM
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1. Slacks and dress shirt
tie optional
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:20 PM
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2. What type of job is it?
That depends on suits or just sportcoats.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:21 PM
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5. I'm an insurance agent.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:22 PM
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Ties and dress shirts
with slacks should suffice, I would think!
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cajones_II Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:58 PM
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21. Suits will be on sale as well, wool ones
This time of year...eventually someone will want to see you in a suit. I used to work as a consultant to insurance companies, and my rule of thumb is "dress like the boss"
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:20 PM
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3. That is such a wide definition.
:shrug:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:20 PM
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4. it's summer ... you should be fine
in slacks and a nice shirt ... bring a tie just in case.

:hi: Good luck !!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:21 PM
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6. It can't hurt to ask
I'm sure they know your situation & background, so ask them if business attire means suits or dress pants & button down shirt with a collar or something different.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:21 PM
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7. slacks & shirt w/ a tie
is quite enough.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:22 PM
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8. I would overdress instead of wearing something that might be too casual
If you overdress they probably will appreciate the fact that you are taking your job seriously if you wear clothes that are too casual it might look like you arent taking it seriously enough IMO.Good luck.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:26 PM
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12. Best advice on this thread! Go with the suit,
or at least a sports jacket and tie.

You need to look professional, not like someone who is going to try to get away with as little as possible.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:41 PM
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18. That's the way to do it
When I got my first office job a couple years back, I wasn't sure how formal or how casual to be, so I decided to go with the full suit -- tie everything.

At the end of the first day, my boss pulled me aside as I was leaving and told me that I didn't need to wear a suit or tie. Slacks and collared shirt were fine.

Better to be overly prepared than to be underly prepared.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:22 PM
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9. Slacks, dress shirt and nice tie
and bring your sportscoat. On your first day, see what everyone else is wearing and you can tone down from there if you have to.

Congrats and good luck! :-)
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:23 PM
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10. Those should be fine.
I don't know of any industries that consider a sport coat inappropriate business attire for day-to-day work. (I suppose your individual employer might be different, but I think the HR person or your new supervisor probably would say something if the dress code was super-strict.)

Coat and tie, absolutely. You can take them off later (or not wear one or both the next day) if you find people dressed a little more informally.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:25 PM
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11. wear slacks, dress shirt, tie and sport coat
You can always remove the sport coat and tie when you get there if you're feeling overdressed, and if everyone is in suits, you won't look as out of place as you would with no tie or jacket.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:29 PM
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13. In My Experience,
"Business attire" means suits and ties for men. Sport coat and tie should be OK. "Business casual" is khakis and golf shirts (in warm weather).

Things may have changed, though, or it might be a more casual industry than mine. It might be worth calling your contact since they went to the trouble of specifying.

In general, if there's doubt, dress more conservatively.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:32 PM
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14. Ooo, tough call.
Business casual or business formal? IIRC, business formal means suit with tie. Business casual could be anything from slacks & dress shirt (no tie) to slacks and a golf shirt. What is the final job going to be? If you're going to be doing anything customer-facing, they probably mean business formal. It can't hurt to ask....
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:35 PM
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15. My office is hyper-casual
Jeans, tee shirt, old doc martins.

Neener neener neener.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:55 PM
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20. Yeah, yeah, rub it in.
*straightens tie*
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:04 PM
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22. I just kicked off my shoes
so now I am in my socks.

:P
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:13 PM
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23. Yeah, well, now I'm home.
:)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:36 PM
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16. a thong, cowboy boots and one of those tall chef hats should work!
depending on your business, of course.
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quisp Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:33 PM
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17. suits and ties always...
sports coat, slacks, tie, occasionally.

You've been in the military so you know undershirts, trimmed nails and hair, shirt tucked.

dress as well (or even a little better) than your boss if you want to move up.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:53 PM
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19. Still have your combat boots? Wear 'em.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:38 PM
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25. I still have all my battle dress uniforms,
and a kevlar jacket and helmet. Perhaps I should wear that as well. :D
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 06:21 PM
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26. Especially to sell insurance.
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:15 PM
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24. i wish that people would say what they mean...
with regards to attire. 'business attire' tells me nothing. tell me a skirt suit, or pantsuits are ok, or i don't need a jacket, or i need pantyhose (at which point i'll quit).

it's like here in trinidad, the buzzword for certain events has become 'elegantly casual'. now you tell me what the fuck that means. i can look elegant in jeans, and casual in a dress. WHICH DO YOU WANT ME TO WEAR!
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:59 PM
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27. Office managers need to be more specific.
I got ahold of the office manager/secretary for my boss. Here's her response:

"Oh, shirt and tie are alright. Don't worry much about the jacket."



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