For those that believe in ESP kind of shit - PLEASE READ :(

[New Earth]

if you read my post from last time, there is more that has happened. i need to share it wherever possible and hear people's feedback. please read this and tell me what you think it was and how this person might feel now :(

Just warning you, this is going to be very long and please note - I just now have put this all together and sorted it out in my head - it's taken almost a month. As these events were happening I wasn't actually aware what was going on - until now.

I have had many other psychic experiences - some of them were where someone else was reading my mind - most of them are of my ability to know people's health issues, when they will die and how, etc. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened. Please read the whole thing and take it seriously.....

I'll start out by saying that this is about one of my favorite bands who I went to see live a lot last month. All the times I've posted about this I haven't felt comfortable pointing that out - but I think in order for you to understand this entirely you need to know the background of it. I just got into them this past January and literally was consumed by them - became 'obsessed' with them and all - especially to the 'main' guy in the band (there are only 2 band members). The one would have been familiar with me from a site we both are on and some messages I left them in the past. I'm going to have to use fake names here or something instead of saying 'the one guy' and 'the other guy' :eyes: So let's call the 'main' one who was doing the talking 'BOB' and the 'other one' 'JOHN'. :D

Anyway - This happened on June 14th - at one of the shows. They had just finished a song - Bob walked over to John and started talking to him - I wanted to hear what he was saying so bad. They both walked over to the other side of the stage (opposite side as me) and started talking more. I became more and more concentrated on them - Bob must have been explaining to the other who he was about to talk about - because John looked right at me and even made eye contact with me - and when he noticed i was looking right at him he quick turned his head back. Bob then made sure his mic was turned off, said something into it to make sure there was no sound. There wasn't, so he went on....

I started to hear some things being said in his voice - things that could have only been about me. Even at this point I didn't realize what was happening, I was almost in some kind of trance. I just started hearing all these things about me - specific words and phrases that only *I* would recognize. One of them was about a funny message I left Bob once and he recited the entire thing to John - after I heard this I looked over at them and John was laughing hysterically at it. Bob then went on to say some more things about me - then stopped, look toward my direction, and got a really confused look on his face and said 'dude does she hear us talking about her? she keeps looking over here, she's looking right at us!' then John looked just as confused, and they stopped and went on with the show.....

My initial reaction that night was that it was kind of a joke and I was supposed to hear the conversation - like kind of just a fun jab at me or something....they are known to do things like that. But still something about the confusion on their faces and what Bob said at the end didnt make sense for me to have heard it on purpose.

3 nights later, after another show - we were all at a club - including the band, to hang out and get stuff signed, etc. After getting up the guts to finally walk up to Bob - I got something signed and then asked him I could ask him a question. I asked him - "do you remember the night in (specific US state)...." - he nodded - then I said, "do you remember - right after (specific song)...." - he nodded again - i said "were you guys talking about me? making fun of me or something?" and he got a weird look on his face, shook his head no, and said 'the last thing we would do is make fun of our fans, especially the ones who come out to all the shows..." Then I said "I thought i heard.....i could have sworn i heard....." - then he said something else - i said something else...but the last bit is irrelevant....then there was a very awkward silence and we both kind of stood there - and he turned to talk to someone else as if freaked out a little (lol)

Anyway - minutes later - I am standing by the bar and I start hearing this conversation....I heard someone saying "do you remember i told you I thought she knew we were talking about her....she just asked me about it now" -------- the other person said "what did you say?" ------ then the first person said "i told her no, because we weren't making fun of her, i was just telling you about her. .i swore i had the microphone turned off, i even talked into it to make sure there was no sound...there's no way she could have heard that unless she heard it through the speaker....is she listening to ALL my conversations?!?!."

At that moment i naturally turned around, and there they were - a good bit away (in a very loud club mind you!) - it was them! Bob was talking into John's ear and telling him about what I had just asked him! As soon as he noticed me looking at them, he said "my god she's doing it again!" - and they both quick pulled apart and stopped talking and went opposite ways.

I saw them again about 3 days later at the last show - they were both a little strange toward me, kind of avoiding me and a little distant. I didn't talk to them at all, nor did I try - it was just so wierd.

Remember, at the time this was all happening I didn't realize it - it's so weird how this happens for me. It doesn't digest in my brain until days later - bits and pieces come back to me and then it all makes sense.

"Bob" won't talk to me at all - I had to send him an email regarding a different subject (not related to this experience) and he won't reply to me - yet he's replied to other people that I know since I wrote him. I assume he might be a little confused and freaked out by what happened - the fact that I can hear him when he talks about me no matter far away he is. I've been trying to figure out what to call this ability - or experience.

Would you call it clairaudience? I mean it was some kind of extra-sensory hearing but it wasn't with spirits, it was with real people in the same room as me - just beyond normal hearing range. Or was it some kind of telepathy? Was I either just so connected to Bob when he'd talk about me I would pick up on it? Or was I connected to John in some way, and could hear what HE heard when Bob would talk to him?

I've also had someone suggest it might have been some kind of 'remote viewing', like somehow I was projecting myself into where they were standing and experiencing what they were experiencing.

Or maybe a combination? It's just a strange incident and it's driving me a little mad trying to figure out what it was - and why - and how i can get him to talk to me about it or something.

Please, any feedback at all is appreciated - I feel alone here and him not talking to me just makes it worse :cry:

[New Earth]

1. i won't allow this topic to be dropped

i need some emotional support :(

[Floogeldy]

You present difficult questions.

To give an opinion, we either have to assume, absent scientific evidence, that you have extra sensory perception, or wonder whether or not you are schizophrenic.

No poster on this board who is a stranger to you can offer any competent advice based upon the facts presented in your post.

You might consider talking to your doctor about this situation.

[New Earth]

6. excuse me?

first of all i asked for those that believe in it to reply.

your reply is very offensive. if you have no real feedback, please dont reply. it really happened, he said the shit himself.

[Floogeldy]

12. I'm not saying that ESP does not exist.

I'm just saying that neither I nor any stranger to you on this board can competently advise whether or not you actually have ESP powers.

If you do not have ESP, then it is possible that you might be suffering from a mental illness.

No need for you to take offense.

[New Earth]

13. i know for a fact i have them

and i dont' need you telling me if i do or not. that was not that point of this post if you actually read it.

[Floogeldy]

17. Don't get huffy with me.

You stated, "Please, any feedback at all is appreciated."

When you post on a site with tens of thousands of members, you can't choose who responds to your post or whether all responses will be to your liking.

If you're going to whine about responses to your posts in an open forum, perhaps you choose another type.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

2. I've heard of those things happening to people before.

My cousin says she can sense when her husband is flirting with another woman, even if they're in different places. I think it's some sort of mental connection some people are able to develop with others. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Think of it as a gift you've been granted. :hug:


P.S.- Be sure to give this a kick for the morning crowd. You'll get many more responses at that time of day.

[New Earth]

3. the difficult part is

hearing his side of this :( he won't talk to me - or reply to pm's/emails or whatever. he's freaked out, i heard him say it himself.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

7. If he is freaked out , you have to leave him alone .

That would push him further away if you continued to badger him .

[Celeborn Skywalker]

8. I think he's the one with a problem.

It's ridiculous that he would just drop you as a friend because of this incident. Definitely don't blame yourself, though.

[New Earth]

15. he isn't really a 'friend'

he's uh, one of my favorite musicians :blush:

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

4. Yeah I have the same thing ...

and sometimes I am not glad that I have it , because things come to me in dreams , visions and feelings . I don't have time right now to post when these things have happened to me , but I am learning to use it better and to my advantage .

[norml]

5. Yes, that sort of thing happens.

It's about coincidence and the interconnectivity of all things.

Try not to be too upset by it. Life can be so disturbing. One must cultivate calmness and detachment.

Observe and learn, but realize that these observations are not nearly as important as cultivating that state of mind which allows you to observe without falling from grace due to disturbance.

It's about coincidence and the interconnectivity of all things.

[New Earth]

9. yes

i do know all that. i have had many many many experiences like this - not like this situation specifically, but the kind of 'ESP' kind of experience - and i've been on both ends. i know this was for a reason - the fact i heard him talking about him those times - it's just his turn i guess, to talk to me about it.

it's just hard going thru it waiting for him to talk to me. :(

[norml]

16. Try not to care whether you are talked to or not.

Oh that I was where I would be, then I would be where I'm not, but where I am I must be, and where I would be I am not.

Be where you are when you are.

Don't worry about some other thing when you're not there.

There are books on this sort of thing.

[madeline_con]

22. "...waiting for him to talk to me. :( "

Don't take offense, but they ridiculed you by laughing about you and your post.

They may think you're a freaky groupie or something. I'd let it be, and find a new band to listen to. It will just get more uncomfortable if you don't, IMO.

[IChing]

10. If you like you can DU mail me

I've heard your posts before and I have some thoughts if you like.

[Heidi]

11. Faye . . .

I believe inexplicable things can and do happen, but please know that you can't impose your will on "Bob" or force him to talk to you about the experience you described. If I were you, I'd give him some space.

Good luck to you.

[New Earth]

14. i know :(

i'm trying hard to just leave him alone. at the same time, i wonder if he even thinks about this now :shrug: he seemed pretty freaked out that nite and it was only about 3 weeks ago :(

[hlthe2b]

18. I think these kind of things can happen... I don't discount

some ESP type of events happening to people. It has been documented that some dogs can sense their owners coming home (despite irregular schedules and lack of car or other familiar sounds)with incredible accuracy. I had a dog that could sense when I was on the phone (calling infrequently and at irregular hours) from thousands of miles away...

Some things you can't explain...

But, as for your fav band...please back off. Given the strange stalking fans they have to worry about, you got to figure they are spooked. Give them some time and space and then I'm guessing much will be forgotten...

[NuttyFluffers]

19. clairaudience. and it's all perfectly normal. well, normal-ish.

clair·au·di·ence
Pronunciation: kla(&)r-'od-E-&n(t)s, kle(&)r-, -'äd-
Function: noun
: the power or faculty of hearing something not present to the ear but regarded as having objective reality —clair·au·di·ent /-&nt/ adjective

having nothing to do with spirits, love. he was not in earshot (especially in the loud club situation) and yet 'heard' with a regarded objective reality.

perfectly normal. a lot of people get it at some point in their life, but usually for brief moments and rarely in a controlled fashion. i'd suspect most mothers have it, especially when preoccupied but still having to care for children, and would be the most demonstrable example most people would have had anectdotal experience.

seems like your infatuation (on whatever level that it is) with this ... er, scottish vocalist... is what heightened this sense and created a link. most people tend to get freaked out by 'mystical, magical, life's a ball' bippity boppity boo so be kind, rewind, and be non-chalant about the whole thing. when you act weirded out it just makes the target of clairaudience that much more unnerved. do what mom's used to do, lie or be blithe about it. act/say you have your little angel spies or something.

oh yeah, diversify your passions too. constantly going to as many of their concerts as they can, visiting their forums, sending them e-mails, being at the same after-parties, meh, many fans do that but it's a bit overly intense. throw in clairaudience and you send them into paranoia of 'psychic stalker' territory.

be cool, look as if you are bored and over it. ;)

O8)

[madeline_con]

20. IMO, it's just lip reading...

You know what both their voices sound like, and you "hear" that instead of the club noise.

They were laughing at you. I wouldn't give either the time of day again.

[NuttyFluffers]

21. behind the back lip-reading. olympic level lip-reading!

"At that moment i naturally turned around, and there they were - a good bit away (in a very loud club mind you!) - it was them! "

:D

bold for her pleasure.

-with love, the fluff. :grouphug:

[madeline_con]

23. i naturally turned around

So she hears a couple of words that indicate she's being talked about, but couldn't hear all of them.

She turns around and lip reads the rest of the conversation, putting their voices in her head on her own, not because of super powers.

It's possible.

[NuttyFluffers]

24. a 'couple of words' here is a paragraph...

Anyway - minutes later - I am standing by the bar and I start hearing this conversation....I heard someone saying "do you remember i told you I thought she knew we were talking about her....she just asked me about it now" -------- the other person said "what did you say?" ------ then the first person said "i told her no, because we weren't making fun of her, i was just telling you about her. .i swore i had the microphone turned off, i even talked into it to make sure there was no sound...there's no way she could have heard that unless she heard it through the speaker....is she listening to ALL my conversations?!?!."

:D

bolded, again, for her pleasure.

from behind the back.

in a loud crowded party.

-- with love, the fluff :hug:

ps: from across the room, too. :evilgrin: "magical!" O8)

[madeline_con]

29. "magical!"

At least. :eyes:

[LaurenG]

25. You know ESP stuff freaks people out

But it is normal. All people are intuitive. It's part of being human. However our society "frowns" upon it in order to keep you from your own power. They make you into a "nut" job or satanist. Have you noticed? So people don't listen to themselves anymore. You seem to have a pretty strong case of a some special gift. Who knows if it's remote viewing or clairaudience. The point is you heard what you heard, don't let anyone invalidate you. Now for the interesting part. Most "sensitives" have a difficult time because they are so sensitive.

Tell me, what does your gut say about these guy's. That is what you need to listen to. What do you already know? You'll be OK, this is just an interesting journey, try to have fun with it. One rule however, if you are trying to hear what someone is saying and it's a private conversation it is rude to deliberately listen in. If you are just getting the info then there is nothing more you can do. Never use your abilities to harm others, never. I hope it all works out for you soon.

[Thtwudbeme]

26. Why bother with the fake names?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which band you are obsessed with.

You might or might not have some sort of ESP...I don't think that's the real issue here.

You should be more concerned with your "emotional" involvement with celebrities---enjoying someone's talent and art is healthy and normal...getting to the point where you are wondering if they are talking about you is a symptom that something is seriously wrong.

What you are describing is not too far off from stalking. I would consider seeing a therapist.

Stephanie

[Heidi]

27. It was pretty clear to me, too,

when I looked at the blog link in Faye's profile which two-member band she was talking about.

[Champ]

28. Taking a wild guess

There is really no advice I can possibly give you. I have a gut instinct about things and some things I feel like 'I just know' but I try not to jump to conclusions in my own mind, I take account of people's words most of the time. If in the end I'm right and didn't accept that to begin with, I'll be fine. I know if I started doing this I'd be fooling myself when it comes to most situations.

Anyways....

Now after reading your post I see your sig line, 2 people in the photo. I'm assuming that is the band you're referring in the thread, I could google the name and figure out who the members are and which one is the vocalist and 'the other guy'. If this is true(always taking account in what the person has to say before jumping to a conclusion) then I don't understand why you go to the trouble of leaving out the band name and their real names when it is so easy to figure out?

Really don't worry about what it is going on in the situation, just keep on moving. There is nothing you can do about getting 'Bob' to talk to you so I wouldn't stress over it. It isn't worth it IMO