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Wed Jul-20-05 11:15 PM
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Poll question: Popular people don't have to be nice. Agree or Disagree? |
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Popular people, those high in the pecking order, don't have to be nice because they've no one they need to suck up to.
So it isn't "Why aren't people attracted to nice people?"
It's "If people are attracted to you, you don't have to be nice"
Agree or Disagree?
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:16 PM
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1. being nice does not equal "sucking up" |
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Thu Jul-21-05 03:29 PM
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Thu Jul-21-05 03:45 PM
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how is this in any way germane to my response to your thread?
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Thu Jul-21-05 04:43 PM
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17. It doesn't really. I was just using it to kick it. |
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I need to go soon to deliver the pizzas in the heat.
Had I more time I might justify my response by saying people forget about the pecking order, and I'm just reminding them of it.
It's because of all the threads I've seen asking "Why don't they like me when I'm so nice?"
I'm saying they've got it backwards.
Maybe it's that they have to be so nice because they aren't liked.
Being nice isn't necessarily sucking up, but being nice is a big part of sucking up.
Wouldn't you agree?
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:18 PM
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2. maybe it's 'just be yourself & get to know people' |
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:21 PM
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3. You would have to be nice to be popular |
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or good looking or funny... otherwise, why would you be popular in the first place?
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:27 PM
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6. Paris Hilton isn't popular for her niceness. |
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And no matter how nice you were to her she would hardly notice, being more likely to be attracted to some fellow high status jerk.
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:22 PM
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4. why would not nice people be popular? |
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:33 PM
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7. Being cruel to inferiors is an essential part of any pecking order |
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Though the further removed in status from a superior an inferior is the less notice is taken of them.
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Thu Jul-21-05 03:49 PM
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14. Being cruel to so-called "inferiors" is usually just malignant narcissism |
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and raging insecurity. Happy, secure people have no use for cruelty. I would hardly call someone who does superior.
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:23 PM
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5. Why shuld I tell YOU? Go away, kid...you bother me |
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DISCLAIMER: the above was an attempt at satire...I was not serious. Now f*** off and leave me alone... :P
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Wed Jul-20-05 11:41 PM
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8. I'd Rather Be Cool Than Be Loved |
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Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 11:44 PM by REP
Hey.
There's nothing in my art.
I'd rather be cool than be smart.
Hey.
What I'm thinking of.
I'd rather be cool than be loved.
Here's what I feel,
Ba ba ba ba.
Just want a girl
As cool as kim deal.
Hey.
I thought that you were tough.
Well I've had it too, had it rough.
Hey.
I don't care if I'm wrong,
'cause right always takes too long.
Here's what is real
Ba ba ba ba
Just want a girl
As cool as kim deal
© Courtney Taylor-Taylor
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Thu Jul-21-05 12:58 AM
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Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 12:59 AM by libhill
You meet the same people on the way down, that you met on the way up - and that's a cliche, I know - but it's true.
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Thu Jul-21-05 03:42 PM
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11. I think there's a lot of truth in that. |
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At the very least, I think there's little correlation between how nice people are and how popular they are. Obnoxiously unpleasant people do often seem to have a following of cheerleaders.
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Thu Jul-21-05 03:46 PM
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13. I agree, but it will eventually wear off. |
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Thu Jul-21-05 04:02 PM
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15. Humans, on average, still pretty much look up to bullies. |
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Until that changes, little else will.
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Thu Jul-21-05 10:36 PM
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20. And the horse(s) they rode in on. |
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Thu Jul-21-05 10:38 PM
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21. Even the richest man/woman on earth |
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still needs people. If they're not nice, at least to some extent, they're going to regret it. As was an axiom in the entertainment industry when I was working in it, be nice to everyone, including the janitor, because you never know who your boss could be next week.
Most of the people I knew were at the very least, genial. Even the heads of the studio, who didn't need to be, but were. Of course, they took the stance that cordiality wasn't necessarily to the point of familiarity, but they weren't assholes. Manners make a person, I think, and while some might not classify "manners" as being "nice," to me they always will indicate that someone was raised with some integrity.
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Thu Jul-21-05 10:57 PM
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22. this is a really weird poll... |
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why would people choose not to be nice in the first place? who in their right mind would allow people who happen to be more popular than them insult them and then say "well that's OK he or she is more popular than I so they can just go ahead and say anything nasty about you...
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Thu Jul-21-05 11:34 PM
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23. I don't get it? You linked to this in a thread of mine... and I'm really |
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confused... I don't know what you mean by this poll, and I don't know what you meant by linking to it in my thread... :crazy:
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Thu Jul-21-05 11:34 PM
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Thu Jul-21-05 11:55 PM
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25. Even though I saw you used the sarcasm word, I responded to your |
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topic as though it was serious that you had felt much put upon.
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Thu Jul-21-05 11:59 PM
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26. Ok, so you really thought that I was complaining that women went |
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for bad girls? Really? :shrug:
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Fri Jul-22-05 12:03 AM
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28. I wasn't sure how real you were being so I responded as though it was |
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Fri Jul-22-05 12:03 AM
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27. You don't get popular by being a dick |
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