If we lived in a sane society

[omega minimo]

aware of our place in the world, in touch with our surroundings and our environment, it would be noted in the "news" that the London bombings occurred on the New Moon and the Full Moon.


:wow:

[Deep13]

1. How could they have occurred on both, ...

... when they are fourteen days apart?
:donut:

[omega minimo]

2. Well, at least no one can accuse you

of black n white thinking.

[Deep13]

3. I guess I don't understand your point.

The moon phase on 7/7 was what it was, waxing crescent, and it cannot be two phases at once. If recognizing an objective fact makes my thinking black and white, then guilty as charged.

[omega minimo]

5. Some are here to play word games

Some are not


"Here" being relative, since Mod moved the thread.

:hi:

[progmom]

7. but it's a full moon today...

[northzax]

9. which means it can't have been

a new moon 14 days ago.

[progmom]

11. really? how do you figure?

I'm not supporting whatever it is the OP is trying to say...but I thought the new moon and the full moon tended to be 2 weeks apart... :shrug:

[northzax]

13. the full moon

is on the 15th day following the new moon. There are 14 days seperating them, and they occur on the fifteenth day. The new moon was on Wednesday, July 6. The next new moon will be on Friday, August 5. Look it up. Think of it logically, does a full moon happen on the same day of the week every month? you don't have a full moon or a new moon every other thursday.

glad to be of service. I still want to know why this would be at all relevant, were it a correct supposition in the first place.

[northzax]

62. roughly. Look at a calendar.

seriously. just flip through and check, do all full moons happen on the same day of the week? if it was 14 days, they would. but they don't. ergo, it can't be 14 days.

if something happens every two weeks, then it's on the same day of the week, time after time, in perpetuity. Every two weeks, I go to happy hour with some friends. Wednesday. every other wednesday, the month changes, the year changes, but wednesday stays the same. the moon don't operate that way.

[progmom]

63. ok......northzax...i get it

15 days. not 14. :thumbsup:

[northzax]

64. I didn't realize I'd already replied once

when I did the second one. I blame the crushing hangover. ...sorry...:)

[progmom]

65. it's ok

:hi:

[Deep13]

19. 7/21 Waning gibbeous. 93% illuminated.

Looks like the new moon was on the sixth. Alright the two incidents were pretty close to new and full phases.

[billyskank]

20. Sounds about right to me

28 days in a lunar cycle, yes? No? :shrug:

[billyskank]

24. I stand corrected.

Thankyou.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3692273&mesg_id=3692783

[northzax]

25. true, which explains

but there aren't TWO full moons in a cycle, only one. or two null moons in a cycle, there's only one. the next one happens on the 29th day.

[billyskank]

26. Right. There was also one other piece of information I was lacking

which was that London has been bombed twice. Why I am always the last person to hear about these things! X(

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1533382,00.html

[northzax]

28. don't spend a lot of time

in front of the TeeVee, huh?

[billyskank]

31. I don't have a TV

That must be the reason.

[northzax]

36. ahh, no wonder you can spell nt

[billyskank]

40. Did you know

that once, madness was thought to be related to the phases of the moon. Hence the term, lunatic.

I bet everyone knew that already... :hide:

[northzax]

46. yeah, I saw that on TV one time

on Springer, I think. or was it Maury? Montel? Sally Jessie? no, definately Ricki.

[billyskank]

48. The O'Reilly Factor, I expect.

I heard it on Rush. :P

[Dora]

56. OH, thank goodness

Someone else who doesn't own a television. I was feeling quite alone.
:hi:

[billyskank]

67. Shout out to the "don't have a TV" massive!

Or diminutive, as may be. :) :hi:

[Deep13]

32. I heard "attacked" just now, but with no real details.

[RedCloud]

16. If it's so full, why do we only see 50% of it?

National inquiring minds want to know.

[Deep13]

21. Just a figure of speech.

To the degree that the moon is visible from Earth, it is completely illuminated during the full phase. At any given time, only half of the moon is illuminated, just like the Earth.

[northzax]

22. it's symbolic

for the oppression of women in a patriarchal society, we only pay attention to one side.

[omega minimo]

4. Moved from Women's Rights & Issues Forum

proves my point

[Deep13]

6. Which is what?

If your post has something to do with women's rights, I'd like to know.
:shrug:

[RedCloud]

17. How many women have gone to the moon?

You would think with all the tax dollars they pay, plus out of respect to Luna, this would already be a moot point.

[Deep13]

29. Exactly zero.

The first two groups of astronauts selected by NASA, the Mercury Seven and the Gemini Nine, were required to be military test pilots with many hours of high performance aircraft flight time. War experience was preferred. Hardly any women qualified at the time. There were a few women test pilots left over from WW2, but they were not at the pinnacle of their careers the way the selected candidates were. By the time Apollo was flying, the Gemini Nine astronauts were at the top of the rotation for command with astronauts selected from later groups in support positions. The tird and fourth astronaut groups were not necessarily test pilots, but the extensive high-performance aircraft experience was still a requirement. This is the kind of experience that one can only get in the military which at the time excluded women from combat roles. Even civilians like Neil Armstrong and Russ Sweickart had extensive military experience. During LBJ's tenure, efforts were made by the administration to put a Black astronaut in the rotation. I forgot his name, but he was an X-15 pilot for the airforce. NASA resisted saying that the program was too important and too dangerous for anyone to be accepted without going throught the rigorous regular selection process.

[Misunderestimator]

23. Um... This thread is about Women's Rights and Issues?

:shrug:

[northzax]

27. I keep hoping someone will explain it to me

haven't had any luck yet. let me know if you figure it out?

[Deep13]

30. It was moved here from that forum.

[Misunderestimator]

33. Well, yes, I know that, which is why I was asking how it was related to

women's issues, since it was originally posted there. :shrug:

[Deep13]

34. Still guessing myself.

[billyskank]

37. It isn't related

which is probably why it was moved!

[Misunderestimator]

43. I know that! But apparently the OP thought it was related to women's

issues, So my question stands... :shrug:

[billyskank]

45. She seems to have left

:(

[Misunderestimator]

47. Shoot.

x(

[northzax]

58. lilyhoney seems to know something

but I got the 'you'd never understand'

[progmom]

38. yes - that is a very serious question

Let's start a thread in the Gun Rights & Gun Control forum and see if we can't get to the bottom of this. :thumbsup:

[billyskank]

42. I think that is an appropriate place

for a discussion on be-bop. :)

[Misunderestimator]

44. Not a bad idea.... I've heard of "Shooting the Moon"...

I guess it could be related. :rofl:

[progmom]

49. ...or maybe the Seekers On Unique Paths Group?

For those times when you get caught between the moon and New York City.... :shrug:

[Misunderestimator]

50. Do we have a water sports group...

for when we sail on, across Moon River? ba dum bum.

[progmom]

51. you're not even trying, are you?

did you even look at the list of groups and forums? did you?

:eyes:

[Misunderestimator]

54. No... Where did you get the idea that I would do such a thing...

as look for something instead of asking you? :eyes:

[progmom]

60. well, i guess i understand that

after all, i am such an indisputable source of wisdom and knowledge. if i wasn't me, i would be looking to me for answers too.

[northzax]

57. I'd suggest the Southern Democrat group

and then, after gorging there, I'd be over to the Fat Acceptance group.

[crispini]

59. LOL!

:rofl:

[northzax]

8. right...ok then

anyone want some tea?

please feel free to explain what moon, exactly, was in full and new phases at the time.

[Lilyhoney]

10. I already have some tea

and I don't see anything wrong with the OP. :shrug: The bombings happened 14 days apart.

[northzax]

14. yes, they did.

but I want to know why the lunar cycle is relevant. and nobody will tell me.

[Lilyhoney]

15. Well,

I could try, but I am not sure what you don't understand.

There is alot to look at when you look at events related to astrology and numerology. But I don't want to limit it it just theese two areas of thought and research.

There is an astrology forum here if you want to read some stuff there as that might help.:hi:

[omega minimo]

55. This thread is great

It's like being inside the head of a clever ADD person.

The OP point was that we live in a society where, to "most," the lunar cycle is irrelevant.

I wonder if it is relevant to the perpetrators.

[progmom]

61. hey - there you are!

what does this have to do with women's rights?

[billyskank]

66. You scared her away again!

:spank: :D

[omega minimo]

68. Who pays attention to moon cycles?

B-)

[northzax]

69. tidal engineers?

sailors?
witches?
hermit crabs?

how'm I doing?

[omega minimo]

70. OK

witches it?

[Lilyhoney]

12. The news mentioned

that it was 2 weeks to the day but nothing about lunar phases.

:hi:

[MsAnthropy]

18. This probably belongs in the Meeting Room forum

[progmom]

35. this is possibly one of the most bizarre threads i have read all week

:bounce:

[northzax]

39. yeah, but god love it

it sure is fun!

[progmom]

41. no kidding

:hi:

[motely36]

52. My head hurts.

Maybe I should go seek medical advice in the lounge :)

[progmom]

53. i bet mine hurts more

:P