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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:54 PM
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This is sad. Last of WWII Comanche Code Talkers Dies
OKLAHOMA CITY - Charles Chibitty, the last survivor of the Comanche code talkers who used their native language to transmit messages for the Allies in Europe during World War II, has died. He was 83.

Chibitty, who had been residing at a Tulsa nursing home, died Wednesday, said Cathy Flynn, administrative assistant in the Comanche Nation tribal chairman's office.

The group of Comanche Indians from the Lawton area were selected for special duty in the U.S. Army to provide the Allies with a language that the Germans could not decipher. Like the larger group of Navajo Indians who performed a similar service in the Pacific theater, the Comanches were dubbed "code talkers."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050721/ap_on_re_us/obit_chibitty
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:55 PM
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1. All I can say is
:patriot:
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biscodawg Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:56 PM
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5. i second that motion! n/t
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:55 PM
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2. I wasn't even aware there WERE Comanche code talkers, I knew
of the Navajos and their service int he Pacific, but not the Comanche.

I learn something new every day.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:56 PM
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3. Wow. There were Comanche Code-Talkers?
I thought they were all Navajo.

Hm. Learn something every day.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:31 PM
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12. Many, many different tribes, although it isn't as well known. Here's a
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:56 PM
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4. I saw something on the History channel about them
They were amazing. I don't think they were ever decoded!
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:57 PM
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7. They never could break the code.
Actually they just talked normally in their language. The enemy could never decifer it.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:52 AM
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14. There was a bit more to it than that
(I saw a history channel show on it)

There were a lot of words that just wouldnt translate. For example, 'tank' became 'turtle', 'fighter plane' became 'hawk', etc.
They also created a phonetic alphabet by taking an english word that started with the letter, then translating it. For example, 'A' would be 'apple', translated to the Comanche word for 'apple'.

There were a couple cases of Comanches (or Navahos)in the US forces (but not with code-talker training) hearing the communications and trying to translate, but unable to do so. Of course, they were later trained as code-talkers.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:56 PM
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6. That *is* sad.
They were integral in destroying fascism in a very real way. To do that kind of favor to the government that essentially perpetrated a holocaust on them... so noble.
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:25 PM
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8. Are there any memorials
for the Native American code breakers who were so essential to our victory in WWII?

I could probably just do a Google search but I'm lazy.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:10 PM
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9. Found these
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:22 AM
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13. Thanks
maybe someday these brave heroes will get a memorial in D.C.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:26 PM
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10. .
:patriot:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:28 PM
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11. Salute to a true hero. Thank you, Charles Chibitty.
:patriot:



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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:58 AM
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15. A Hero
:patriot:
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