What do women really like?

[nyhuskyfan]

[progmom]

1. this woman would like all the bullshit misogynistic threads to stop

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. Yep

This one, too.

WTF is up in here today?

[progmom]

6. i don't know

but if we're seeing shining examples of liberal men... :eyes:

then we've got a loooooong way to go.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

11. No kidding

The funny thing is, they're answering their own questions with their actions. :eyes:

[Chicago Democrat]

19. I agree with her

kindof sad

[nookiemonster]

122. All I've gotta say is

make me a ham sandwich dammit!

EXTREME :sarcasm:

Flame on! LOL

[enlightenment]

12. Make that three

It must be something in the air . . .

time to move on.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. Wanna go buy some chocolate?

It seems to be the safe alternative. :eyes:

[enlightenment]

31. Milk chocolate with hazelnut cream filling --

with an excellent dark chocolate (high percentage of cocoa fat and fantastic snap) chaser.

yum. :woohoo:

[no name no slogan]

21. Actually I prefer the company of women to men

...most of the time. I was raised by a single mother, and consequently never got into that overcharged masculinity thing. I don't like most sports (can't stand them on TV), I don't know how to fix an engine, and I totally botched my home remodelling tasks. Hell, I can't even change the oil in my car! :P

However, I do enjoy reading poetry (esp. the love poems of Pablo Neruda-- OUT LOUD), playing music, writing, a good foreign film and snuggling on the couch-- especially on a cold day. Or even a warm day for that matter.

Yeah, so I'm not manly. But I am sensitive, caring, compassionate and a hell of a good lover (or so I've been told). :D

[manic expression]

84. Same here

I quit school sports because I can't stand that insipid and pathetic locker room culture. That kind of mentality is so ridiculous and foolish it boggles my mind. However, it doesn't take Mr. Big Man to fix a car or house or whatnot; those people are just egotistical and self-absorbed, I think most manual workers are humble in regard to their jobs.

[WCGreen]

85. Yep, I got no small talk for men.....

When I am around a bunch of guys, I go right for the gutter......

Way too easy.....

[R. A. Fuqua]

118. I find some of this confusing, yet fascinating--

I don't get this at all though--

"However, it doesn't take Mr. Big Man to fix a car or house or whatnot; those people are just egotistical and self-absorbed,"

I am an engineer--and I love to fis things--I just got done fixing my mothers screen door and tinkering with my sisters car--I honestly did not do it because I am egotistical or self-absorbed--I jsut enjoy fixing things.

This may be stereotypical masculine behavior--however if I am happy, and they are happy (they do NOT enjoy fixing things) then I don't see how it is a bad thing (?).

My philosopy is to accept people for what they are--and love them and be good to them--I am a masculine man and I have excellent relationships with all the women in my life. I don't apologize for liking sports and enjoying fixing things---I like who I am and I am comfortable in my skin.

[manic expression]

123. You completely misunderstood me

I said that a lot of people try to fix things just 'cause it's the "manly" thing to do. I later said that people who really do manual work are humble and not caught up in a testosterone rush.

For instance, I LOVE playing sports, but the locker room culture that goes hand and hand with High School teams is ridiculous to me (racism, sexism and insipid attitudes are just a part of it). I was talking about people who are self-absorbed with themselves and nothing else, and this seems to be very prevalent in the HS teams I have been a part of. I'm not insulting people who play sports AT ALL, but people who act in this manner in relation to sports.

It's definitely not the act of fixing things I was insulting, far from it. I was criticizing people who act like they are the "big guy" when they occasionally fix things or play sports. It's the attitude, not the action.

[R. A. Fuqua]

126. I see.

I think I am starting to take things a little personally--I am an admitted jock and I like doing a lot of stereotypical masculine things--like fixing things, working on the car etc.

But--I am not a masculine jerk--I treat all the people who I care about as if they are royalty (from my grandparents on down).

This whole discussion that has been going on for days makes me feel ashamed, it seems that us "sensitive" DUer kind of men don't seem to have women figured out anymore than the Neanderthals do.

I do my best to love the people in my life to treat them with kindness and compassion and to accept them just the way they are (all women and all men have different needs and want different things).

My plea to the women out there--please realize that most of us men are hopelessly clueless--yes--even the ones who are trying to do their best. So if you could please--just try to forgive us some of our mistakes and try to give second chances to men who seems like they could be worthy. (but--if a guy is a complete and total jerk--show no mercy--teach him a lesson because he gives all the rest of us a bad name.

Peace to all.

[mdmc]

3. what does misogynistic mean?

Sounds naughty...

[progmom]

10. just in case you're serious...

Of or characterized by a hatred of women.

[mdmc]

23. I really didn't know...

is there a masculine alternative?

[CTLawGuy]

70. misandry

noun form: misandrist.

Except nobody seems to care about this.

[Gormy Cuss]

97. Why use that fancy term....

when "feminazi" is so much easier to understand? After, feminism is all about man-hating, isn't it?:sarcasm:

Misandry is one of my favorited underused English terms. When one of the troglodytes in my extended family makes the mistake of using 'feminazi' in my presence, I tell them I'm not sure what a feminazi is, would that refer specifically to a misandrist, a Sapphist, or just any woman with the quaint notion that women deserve equal protection under the law? This is usually met with some mumbling about "overeducated liberal elitist blah blah blah."

[CTLawGuy]

101. no feminism is not about man-hating

sadly, some so-called feminists don't seem to understand that.

[CTLawGuy]

102. no feminism is not about man-hating

sadly, some so-called feminists don't seem to understand that.

[Gormy Cuss]

107. did you miss the sarcasm tag on my post?

I've yet to meet a feminist who thinks it's about man-hating, although I have met women who won't call themselves feminists because they think it implies misandry.

As for the so-called feminists who do think so, well, there are always people who glom onto a cause for the wrong reasons.

[CTLawGuy]

109. they're out there

most feminists are not man haters.

All they want is for women to have the same freedom and dignity that men do.

They spend more time being motivated by real issues such as the attack on abortion rights and preventing rape, and less time motivated by minor things that pale in comparison.

[CTLawGuy]

110. the reason women today don't call themselves feminists

is because

1. Many feminist ideas have already been integrated into normal society, so to these younger people, feminism is nothing radical. Its ideas are normal. Hence they have no need to identify as feminists.

2. The "feminism" that they do see are the radicals, who spend their time attacking men over minor things that if they actually thought about them in the broad context of pressing issues, aren't really issues. These are the people that fuel Rush Limbaugh's hateful tirades, which sadly get misdirected against real feminists.

[Gormy Cuss]

113. There is no excusing the use of feminazi

I don't care how many women have attacked men over what males think are minor things. Any man who uses that as a defense of hateful tirades has some issues with women's roles in general. If you don't believe me, substitute the same argument for people who go off on hateful tirades about minorities or gays. They use the same sort of arguments to justify their hateful language.

Concerning your other point, 'radical' was the common adjective attached to feminist thought in the '60s and '70s by people who were terrifed to change the status quo. All progressive movements are radical in there nature. Some notions become accepted, some don't, but all of them rock the boat.

[CTLawGuy]

121. it was radical, but it was also right

I don't use the term feminazi. Nazis are right wing. In any movement, there are those who are more extreme, it is a fact of life. There are exreme liberals, extreme conservatives, extreme feminists, extreme Christian fundamentalists.

The extremists are unhelpful to the overall movement and need a good dose of thought about the effects of what they are doing. They give their respective movements a bad name (and belittle them) with their actions.

For example: saying all heterosexual sex is rape = extreme
saying pornography is equivalent to rape = exreme

[Gormy Cuss]

124. Radical and extremist are not completely synonymous

Extremism is another topic. All extremists are radicals but not all radicals are extremists. As for the effects of extremist thought on a movement, that's another thread altogether.

[CTLawGuy]

127. who is a radical but not an extremist?

not meant to criticize, im genuinely curious.

[zippy890]

22. me too

[WindRavenX]

24. for real

I like men, not boys, and it seems lately that all the boys that whine about not getting women need to sack up, shut up, and mature the hell up.
MEN ROCK. Boys suck.

[Cerridwen]

26. Thank you! Yay! Brava! You betcha!

:yourock: :yourock:

[WCGreen]

74. Well, I got nothin'

Was going to say somethin'

But I got nothin'

[Lydia Leftcoast]

98. Me too

I mean, what was that thread about watching Telemundo for the "hot babes"?

I sarcastically added a post about watching BBCAmerica for the hot men, but I guess it's impossible for a guy to understand how stupid all this masculine strutting display locker room talk ("I notice hot babes so that proves I'm not gay") appears to women.

[Misunderestimator]

4. You know... after today, there may be more women for me...

so just keep it up!

[JohnKleeb]

5. Ha

Not of all are angry at women you know. Isnt the correct answer to this poll that women are different and like different things?

[Misunderestimator]

8. Yeah, but that would make too much sense.

:hi:

[Maddy McCall]

13. I was going to start a thread asking...

"Can I be a lesbian, too." :D

Thank god, though, that even MISSISSIPPI has men who aren't as sexist as some DUers.

:hi: :loveya:

[progmom]

16. i hear you, Maddy

:hi:

i guess i got reeeeeeeeeally lucky with progdad.

[nyhuskyfan]

25. Whew. Tough crowd. I'm dyin' up here.

I guess I've learned my lesson about cracking a joke poll based on the headlines of some recent threads without reading them first.

[JohnKleeb]

20. Hah

Youre gonna get a toaster, :shrug: in all my years, I still dont get it.

[Maddy McCall]

14. I was going to start a thread asking...

"Can I be a lesbian, too." :D

Thank god, though, that even MISSISSIPPI has men who aren't as sexist as some DUers.

:hi: :loveya:

[JohnKleeb]

15. Yeah my observation

I dont like the same things in people that say my brother does.

[lukasahero]

47. Lots more M, lots more. eom

[bicentennial_baby]

49. ....

:spray:

:applause:

[Wetzelbill]

87. lol

I don't know how I missed how hilarious you are. :):rofl:

[Spinzonner]

7. Shoes

[wideopen]

9. By the looks of this poll

I think I'll head down to the candy store after work today.

[WCGreen]

79. Yep, that's the place to go man..........

Women love their chocolate....

And I mean that in a purely non sexist, observation of over forty seven years of watching women,

Now that didn't sound right....

I mean, over forty seven years of keeping an eye on....

No, that won't do either....

How's about I think everyone loves chocolate so chances are you may run into a woman when you go to the candy store.......

And then again you may not......

[Chicago Democrat]

17. HEY, Lesbians are 10%!

:(

[UncleSepp]

27. Chocolate. Guinness. Ducks. Shotguns. Muscle cars. Shoes.

Bubble baths. Bubble tea. Long walks on the beach. Long hikes up mountains. Short walk downstairs to that crowded but great pizza joint for a slice and a shot. Home cooked dinner of steamed fish and veggies at 11 PM after a long day at work. Fishing on a steaming river at 6 AM before a long day of drinking beer. Manicures, pedicures, cured ham and pedal boats. Sunrises. Sunsets. "Sunrise, Sunset". Shakespeare in the Park. Parking at the pier. Classic movies. Action movies. Movin' on up. Bad boys, good boys. Grown up men. Other women. Drag queens. Drag racing. Racing to Macy's in time for the white sale. Sailing. Alexey Sayles. The Three Tenors. The Three Stooges. Three Buck Chuck from a plastic cup at a picnic on the roof. The way the corners of your eyes crinkle when you smile.

Getting the picture?

[nyhuskyfan]

28. Yes

I plead fully guilty to a poorly timed attempt at humor. I throw myself on the mercy of the court.

I was wrong.

[tigereye]

29. nah, not so bad

of course I am more tolerant at this point, since I missed most of the flames earlier. :shrug:

[patricia92243]

30. Money n/t

[Zomby Woof]

32. Will it ever end???

:shootsself:

[GOPisEvil]

34. I thought we were done with this shit.

Who kicked this dumbass thread?

Edit - I guess I did. :7

[Zomby Woof]

35. It wasn't you

I didn't even know it existed until it was on Page One near the top... looking at the timestamps, you and I are not even close to being the ones.

But cripes already! :nuke:

[GOPisEvil]

36. I saw it yesterday.

But the trashing of it was fairly complete by the time I checked in.

I udnerstand wanting to respond to someone, but for crying out loud, send a PM if the thread is old.

Oh well...this mood is clashing with the melodic stuff I'm listening to, so I'll leave this thread to wither. :D

[Zomby Woof]

39. But we are successfully threadjacking!

No subject is off limits! :D

[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Maddy McCall]

48. That's a shitty thing to say.

I'm glad some DUers reveal how black their heart is. Don't you think you've held onto 2004 primary grudges long enough???

[CTLawGuy]

50. what are you talking about

I said I would be interested in seeing what the smilie :shootself: would look like.

I didn't say I wanted ZombyWoof to shoot himself.

Please don't read what's not there.

[Eloriel]

129. Now THERE's a novel approach

Do you think it could be catching? (she asks hopefully)?



Sorry, couldn't help myself.

:evilgrin:

[MissMillie]

33. An average guy... who wants me desperately

well, not desperately, but you know, there's nothing better than being wanted.

[sendero]

37. There...

.... you have it.

[tjdee]

38. S K I L L S.

You know, nunchucking skills, computer hacking skills....

[no name no slogan]

88. Hey, I'm a 1337 h4x0r

and although I can't use nunchucks, I am good at Rochambeau-- as long as I go first.

Do I have a chance? ;)

[against all enemies]

116. bow hunting skills?

[NMMNG]

40. Girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money

Or so says Good Charlotte:headbang:

[Name removed]

41. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[progmom]

42. because we lie?

:shrug:

[GOPisEvil]

43. Why does this damned thread keep coming back?!

Argh!!!!

[CTLawGuy]

44. sometimes you do lie

sometimes you are honest. that is HUMAN nature. and women are HUMANS, not deities.

Some women are not honest with themselves about what they want.

Note: the object of feminism should not be to deify women (to say they are morally perfect), it should be to assure their equal status in society.

[progmom]

54. i'm not sure where you got the idea that i was looking to deify women

:shrug:

[CTLawGuy]

57. your response implies it

you were ready to beat me over the head because I implied women may be dishonest.

So are you of the mind that women never lie?

If you are not of that mind, how do you explain your response?


If you don't mean to deify women, then what criticism of women is allowed? If none, then how is that not deification?

[Misunderestimator]

60. How on earth do you stretch non-criticism into deification?

That's the funniest thing I've read all night... swear to god!! :rofl:

[CTLawGuy]

66. well, I am a comedian

generally, gods were considered to be morally perfect and thus not subject to criticism. However, humans are considered to be failible and thus able to be criticised.

Thus if you cannot criticize women, you are likening them to gods.

[Susang]

78. Then how come you're not very funny?

Intentionally, I mean. :shrug:

The comedians I know and have worked with consider it a prerequisite for the job.

[CTLawGuy]

103. i didn't say I was good

though someone upthread though I was pretty hysterical.

[progmom]

72. ok.....

first, you jumped to a huge conclusion. where in my response do you see me getting ready to beat you over the head? did you conclude that because you have decided that all women are feminazis just waiting to pounce on you for daring to criticize our gender?

and secondly...there is a huge difference between implying that women, as a gender, are liars, and saying that individuals are prone to not telling the truth. surely you can see that.

[CTLawGuy]

104. I have not decided that all women are feminazis

but I did know why you orginally responded to me.

[progmom]

111. why am i supposed to assume some sense of humor on your part

...but you won't do the same in turn for me?

[CTLawGuy]

120. oh

ok. I guess you have a sense of humor.

[Misunderestimator]

55. LOL... You said it was a useless question to ask because you would never

get an honest answer... implying that no woman would EVER answer honestly... And don't deny that implication... what else could "never" mean but that?

Who on earth ever said that feminism is about deifying women? Where the hell did you pull that one from?

[CTLawGuy]

58. its called hyperbole

there are exceptions to everything, but sometimes those are left unstated and assumed in casual conversation.

For example, if I say that New York is always cold in the winter, you might be able to find a couple of days where New York is not cold. But it doesn't discredit my statement in the context of casual conversation, because everyone knows there are always exceptions.


sure there are some women who will be honest about what they look for in a man. but many of them just aren't honest with themselves.



If I have to give legalistic answers for everything let me know.

[Misunderestimator]

59. You still insult women by saying that the norm is dishonest... and an

honest women is an exception.

What utter bullshit. LOL... Comparing odd warm days in a New York winter to a few honest women amongst us all.

Well, here's an honest one. And every other woman I know personally here on DU is also honest... the few obviously dishonest women here I'm not even sure are women, and they sure aren't my friends. I'm afraid your numbers are WAY off.

[CTLawGuy]

61. everyone is dishonest at some point and to some degree

please stop trying to create an issue where there is none.

You just hurt your own credibility.

I only said that many women aren't honest with themselves in regards to what they want in a man.

and you turn that into me saying that women are dishonest and there are very few honest women. that is not what I said.

But I guess the truth interferes with your protest session against the evil patriarchy :eyes:

[Misunderestimator]

62. Please stop trying to rewrite what you already wrote...

you made it quite clear that you thought MOST women were dishonest. Wow... what weird shit is going on lately.

On edit... for perspective, let's go back to what you wrote initially:

"you should know that is a useless question to ask because you will never get an honest answer."



What part of never did you not mean?

[CTLawGuy]

63. I most certainly narrowed the scope to their views on what they wanted in

men, but you'd rather get pissed and imply I'm a misogynist.

Frankly, I don't care. I stand by my statement (the statement I said, not the one you claim I said)

[Misunderestimator]

65. "you should know that is a useless question to ask because you will never

get an honest answer.

is that the statement you mean? Because that's the one we've been talking about, I'm not at all sure what you are talking about now. This one pretty much says it all.

[CTLawGuy]

67. you know it relates to what women want in a man

stop being intellectually dishonest.

[Misunderestimator]

68. Stop being obtrusive... It's really very simple...

you insinuated that most women are dishonest... I have no clue what you are talking about now...

"you know it relates to what women want in a man... stop being intellectually dishonest."

Intellectually DISHONEST? Huh? Because I keep pointing out to you what you said... damn... this is exhausting.

Night night

[CTLawGuy]

69. you know what

congratulations! You struck a blow against the evil penis patriarchy!!! good for you! you get a sticker! and you also get on my ignore list.

I am no longer dealing with people who do not listen to reason.

You, and people like you are hurting feminism through your incessant hostility to things you don't even understand and that you twist around so that it becomes evidence that women are victims of the evil males, so you can look powerful and strong fighting the evil bastards.


Real feminists should be ashamed of you.

[Misunderestimator]

71. Whatever! L O L, I am HURTING FEMINISM... LMAO!!

What the hell do you mean anyway? My incessant hostility to things I don't understand.... OMG!! What the fuck EVER!!!

Real feminists would be proud of me.

And real MEN should be ashamed of YOU.

[bicentennial_baby]

77. Damn, how could you?!?!

:cry: it's all ruined now... x(

:loveya:

[Misunderestimator]

81. I'm sorry... It was doing so good before I stepped in and ruined it all.

:loveya:

[no name no slogan]

89. Hey, Feminism called-- it wants an apology and a hug

for hurting its feelings :crazy:

[Misunderestimator]

90. Yeah right... I called and they've already changed their number...

I guess they heard about me.... :cry:

[no name no slogan]

91. Funny, they do the same to me all the time, too

but who's counting? :D

[Misunderestimator]

92. Better than when they had "We are ashamed of Misunderestimator"

on their answering machine... How embarrassing that was!

[no name no slogan]

94. THEY said that to YOU?????

Who the hell do they think they are? Y'know, if I wasn't a total gurlie-man, I'd go over their and kick their collective asses! :grr:

[Misunderestimator]

95. Yes, but weenies don't kick ass... or so I hear...

:D

[Eloriel]

131. Everyone is dishonest

I utterly reject that too, but I find it most interesting -- and telling -- that YOU think this is true of human nature.

[SarahB]

45. Women are individuals.

Just like men.

[GOPisEvil]

51. Oh, stop making sense.

This is the reactionary topic of the week, don'tcha know?

[SarahB]

52. I've been thinking about posting some sarcastic flamebait on the topic.

Should I do it? :evilgrin:

[GOPisEvil]

53. Of course!

:evilgrin:

[BuelahWitch]

56. I like Mistah Dahcy

Colin Firth YUM! :loveya:

[jurassicpork]

64. I've always found...

that the ladies love a man with a good sense of humor.

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

73. Guys who don't ask about this shit

nt

[ForrestGump]

75. To crush

your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!


Oops...posted this to the wrong thread... :P

[Misunderestimator]

96. ...

:rofl:

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

76. Johnny Depp

nt

[KG]

80. a guy that can lick his eyebrows?

[WCGreen]

82. Reporting for duty ma'am

[realms]

83. Some guy with a nice line

Women will fall for anyone who gives them the eye. Divorce rate+.
Don't get me wrong, I love them forever, just chose one that will give you their heart.

[WCGreen]

86. Welcome to the Lounge....

How's that for a line.....:evilgrin:

[Dastard Stepchild]

93. I like to be left alone....

So I suppose I require nothing in a man.

:)

[GOPisEvil]

105. Uh...

:evilgrin:

[the_spectator]

99. Post 100? /nt

[the_spectator]

100. Post 100! Whoo hoo!

:woohoo:
Anyway, I'm going to try to wade into the War Between the Sexes flameworld at some point, but first I have to figure out -
1)How to create my chart in the computer -
2)How to the post the chart here!

[MrSandman]

106. Maybe "women" don't all really like one thing...

Then that might shatter your premise.

[Bruce McAuley]

108. Would you like the chocolate before the sustained lovemaking, my Queen?

I am a man..
But I can learn...

LOL

Bruce

[samplegirl]

112. Honesty

Ranks the highest on my list

[CanuckAmok]

114. What about "Other: other women"

You know, not like reality... more like in my imagination.

Something like a scenario where Catherine Zeta Jones is the bespectacled, strict schoolmistress, and Maggie Gyllenhaal is the short-skirted student who is flunking out and willing to do pretty much anything to boost her GPA?

[BiggJawn]

115. Chocky...and Alan Alda....

The "Hawkeye" Alan Alda from "MASH", not the "Senator Scumbag" Alan Alda from "The Aviator"...

Shit, I'd like some Chocky right now, too....

[SarahB]

117. You want to know the truth (for me anyway)?

someone funny
someone smart
someone handsome
someone responsible
someone sober
someone who talks
someone who listens
someone who loves everything about ME
someone who can go as long as I want, however I want it

BAM!

[Redstone]

119. Your bullshit poll aside,

they really like men (or other women, depending on their proclivities) who will listen to them.

And who will understand that what they're saying is important.

Just my opinion, based on having known a number of women...and of course, subject to change, alteration, and / or derision by those who happen to be women.

I'm just an observer, and this is just an observation, after all.

Redstone

Edited for a one-letter typo.

[NashVegas]

125. Let Me Tell Ya

Two of my dearest friends, both men, are the kind of guys who genuinely like women, love being guys and are unashamed of it. They love their tools, they love their barbeque grills and their football - and they aren't afraid to cry.

One of them, I've even witnessed painting his wife's toenails!

I want me one of those.

[Taverner]

128. Cotton. I am told the answer is cotton.

Do I win a prize?

[sendero]

130. Well well well..

... you sure stepped into the pile didn't ya :)

I know the answer but I have better sense than to talk about it here :) And BTW, it took me until my early 40s to figure it out, why should you get a free ride? Suffer like I did for all those years :)