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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:57 AM
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My friend needs help! Her husband plans to campaign for Bill Frist.
She told me the whole story yesterday. A couple years ago, her physician husband took an appointment in DC that attached him to Frist's office. This husband "Mike" is originally from Oklahoma, but my friend "Mary" met him in San Francisco, where she grew up. Mike is a great guy and seemed to have leftie sensibilities with a bit of a traditional streak. They got married about 12 years ago, and little did she know he was harbouring these secret wingnut leanings!!

Anyway, Frist just thinks Mike is da bomb, another white doctor from the heartland, blah blah blah. The two of them have totally bonded, and Mike just sings his praises. No argument re Kitty-Mengele or contracting-AIDS-thru-sweat-and-tears or Justice Sunday has convinced him that Frist is evil. In fact, he can't wait till Frist declares his candidacy so he can work on the campaign.

Mary is torn up about this development. She never knew her husband had this lurking sensibility, and she can't hardly bear to think about it. She hasn't met Frist, and she told her husband she's not gonna mince words if he ever introduces them. This hasn't put a huge strain on their marriage, but that's because it's still on the back burner. Tensions are sure to mount as 2008 grows closer. So does anyone have any advice for her? (Other than get divorced--that was my first suggestion since I could never be married to a Repub, but she has children with this man and he's okay in all other areas)Is anyone else co-habitating or married to someone on the right? Or someone they didn't know was on the right and came out later????? Or is anyone married to someone who actually knows Bill Frist and thinks he's a stand-up guy???

What a dilemma, eh?

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:59 AM
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1. I think that Frist would be stomped in the general election.
Let him go for it.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:13 AM
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2. 12 years and she never noticed?
Is it possible that her husband just likes Frist because he *knows* him, not because he leans right? Because I find that really weird that she never noticed his political feelings throughout the dating process, into the marriage....seeing as there's been the impeachment of Bill Clinton, the election of 2000. Really polarizing issues that I'm sure had to come up in conversation.

Maybe her husband just likes Bill Frist, and not all Republicans, and not the specifics of Bill Frist's politics. Does he know he can diagnose people through video, LOL?

There's not much your friend can do other than not campaign for Frist-there are a few DUers married to/with Republicans/not liberals I think, hopefully they have some other suggestions.
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:50 PM
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15. Bill Frist diagnosed people through video
before he DIDN'T diagnose people through video.

If this moron actually becomes the nominee in '08 that will be my bumpersticker.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:23 AM
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3. She should get involved on a very visible and vocal level...
...in opposition to Frist.

However much of their personal funds go to Frist, at least that much should also go to oppose him.

More than that, I cannot say. It's not our place to suggest divorce or to tell anyone else who they live with or how they live.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:27 AM
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4. She should get divorced immediately on the ground of mental cruelty.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:48 AM
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6. Believe me, my first suggestion...
She doesn't see that as an option. But maybe as a threat....

I told her to just tell it to Frist like it really is. And if she needed any 3x5 cards with talking points, I'd be happy to write them!
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Old_Fart Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:31 AM
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5. I hate Frist
I don't think that I could stand being around the person 2 seconds. I might become violent and I am not violent. :argh:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:21 PM
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7. I agree with the person who suggested that she be an equal force against
Frist.

Equal compromise in a marriage is the only way to keep it viable. (Meaning one person should not bear all of the burdens of a compromise.)

I also suggest marriage counseling. Just to make sure that the compromise is fair and that it won't break the marriage.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:33 PM
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8. Yikes! I guess she's stuck between a rock and a hard place!
If this was me, I'd just head for the hills, no questions asked! This, for me, would be the ultimate turn-off.:-(
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:43 PM
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11. Remember Kids, He is a Cat Killer





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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:46 PM
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17. That's just one more reason to hate the guy!
:grr:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:38 PM
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9. I odn't see how she could be/stay married to someone
so obviously dedicated to the overthrow of the US that we all grew up in. This is really a horrible character flaw that Mike is exhibiting.

Physicians have turned into a lothesome bunch, on the whole. I know one who spends 1/2 his time on his private yacht or one of his two (!!) private jets, and the other 1/2 complaining about how malpractice insurance makes life barely worth living. I'll be glad when the AMA and the insurance lobby go the way of the whigs.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:42 PM
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10. I've seen a video of Frist
I diagnosed him as a nutjob...

She should put her foot down or leave him...

RL
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:57 PM
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12. I think she needs to sit down
with him and have a very frank discussion, covering the points of why Frist is such an asshole to her, and why her husband would support him.

If she needs talking points like someone mentioned, she should and can research a lot of it online in order to give her husband the facts that she is considering in her opposition.

Once that much is done, I think she should make it clear to her husband that she does not support him in his work with Frist. She has to make him realize that he can not dictate to her what her position is or should be. At that point, I would suggest she join the Democrat activists in her area to point out to her husband that she is serious, and she will not support Frist in any way shape or form, and that she still loves her husband in every way, but that their politics need to be kept separate from their home lives.

Think of Mary Matalin and James Carville. They've managed to survive in a marriage with two very disparate philosophies, and if that's the way it has to work, so be it. If it's all discussed openly, with neither rancor nor hostility, there shouldn't be any problem with them in agreeing to disagree.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:54 PM
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18. Your response is mature and sensible... I'd fuck'n off the bastid!
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:22 PM
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21. Thanks--
I guess I should consider that a compliment! :rofl
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:22 AM
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23. Yes, you should. :-)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:13 PM
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13. two words, Tony Soprano
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 01:14 PM by barb162
he can take care of things for your friend
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:56 PM
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19. Bada bing, bada boom!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:38 PM
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14. Why is frist bothering to pretend to campaign? He has already been select
ed as the next president of the USA. I said this almost 2 years ago. The campaign will be a sham as will the actual "election" just like the last two.

Those facts aside, if I were you I would suggest that your friends are working for the new americanazis and take a hard line stance against it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:37 PM
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16. Anyone that campaigns for Frist...
Needs to be put in a persistent vegitative state ASAP!
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hallo Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 03:18 PM
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20. Well...
My mom is a lifelong liberal feminist who marched against the Vietnam war and for women's rights. And my dad.... well, he made his living raising money for the rethugs. My dad, however, was a smart man and more of a liberterian than a neocon. Once I forced him to admit he'd pay for me to have an abortion if I got pregnant and the pregnancy would interfere with my plans for grad school. So, he was not a total crazy. We had many great debates, my dad and I.

Anyway - how did my mom do it? She said what she loved about my dad was his spark and personality, even if that spark was somewhat misguided. They did argue about politics for as long as I remember but seemed to have an agree to disagree policy. My mom told me I should marry an "interesting not boring" man and well, that was my Dad.

Anyway it sounds you friend was a little taken aback to realize her hubby's love of ol' Dr. Frist. It honestly may be a Midwest thing - the midwest peeps like to stick together. I think she SHOULD challenge him and debate him about Frist, etc. She should also realize she probably can't change his mind. But if we all thought exactly the same way, wouldn't that be a little boring?
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:26 PM
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22. Glue his pee-pee to his leg with Super Glue
(Works every time. And you can believe me because I'm a proud graduate of the Close-Cover-Before-Striking School of Marriage Counseling and Taxidermy (tm)! :thumbsup: )
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:36 AM
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24. it wouldn't be any serious decision for me.
but then, youve already ruled the option out that I'd take.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:27 AM
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25. Well, if she doesn't like her hubby's fristing, then she can
campaign for frist's opponent on an equally loud level.

:popcorn:
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