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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:42 AM
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Roberts' adopted children
I keep reading here that the Roberts family adopted their children from Latin America.

Does anyone have a link? The information I found said it was a "private adoption."

I am asking because my daughter does not believe it. She lived in Bolivia, and worked in an orphanage there. While she is well aware that there are light skinned Latin Americans, she cannot believe that there are children who look like this who are available for adoption, even to rich Americans.

What is the story behind this adoption?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:44 AM
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1. I've wondered about that, too.
The kids are cute but look like walking advertisements for the Arayan Adoption Agency.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:51 AM
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3. The orphanage my daughter worked in was run by nuns.
Few American went there, but she met some European families wanting to adopt. Most of the children were Indian.

There was a little boy with hazel eyes, and he was an oddity. Everyone wanted to adopt him.

Of course there are light skinned Latin Americans. But my daughter lived in Bolivia, and traveled extensively to other countries. She is very skeptical about this whole story.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:51 AM
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2. There's a lot of misinformation floating around here
People saying "I heard" and then getting ready to form opinions based on what they "heard". Yesterday someone "heard" they were from South America.

I don't understand why the kids should be an issue at all, regardless of their origin.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:54 AM
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4. I agree.
I was trying to track down the story. Are they really from South America?

The children are not the issue. I was merely curious.

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:12 AM
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5. Sorry, I have no idea where they're from. n/t
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:12 AM
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6. Maybe they're "The Boy & Girl From Brazil."
Or maybe they're Snowflake Babies.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:46 AM
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7. What "story" are you looking for?
I find this persistent line of conversation on DU to be very troubling.

They adopted two children, now they are parents. What kind of story needs to go along with that? Does every parent that adopts a child owe the public an explanation as to why they chose THAT child instead of a different one? I find the subtle (and not so subtle) choice of language (not just in the OP, and not just in this thread) offensive on so many levels. Aryan Adoption Agency? If you don't adopt a black child, you are under suspicion for being racist? Does that apply to everyone who has adopted a white child?

As part of a family that tried unsuccessfully to adopt a black child, and was turned down because the agency specifically refused to give a black child to a white family, I can't tell you how offended I am. It's disgusting.

They have children now. Unless they are defrauding the tax payers by lying about their residency, it's none of your damned business. This is like asking a couple that conceived naturally what position they were in at the time of conception.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:52 AM
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8. Thank you for that post!
This persistent nasty insinuation that something MUST be sinister about those children because they were adopted is really starting to make me sick.
I am the mother of 5 children. All of my children were adopted at birth. It's nobody's damn business what color their skin is.

Find something constructive to do and give it a freakin' rest.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:03 AM
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9. I repeat again what is important
I had a similiar thread wondering what John Roberts did up until he got married, which was at the age of 40. I found it odd that someone who comes off as a fundie catholic would wait so long until marriage.

I got some flaming but I think eventually in a later post I was able to explain my question.

Personally, I normally wouldn't care if someone waited until late in life to marry OR to adopt children. What I do care is this - the man is possibly going to be our next Supreme Court Justice and the decisions he's made both profressionally and personally in life will affect my life. ANd I'm damn selfish about my life.

If Roberts got married late in life because he was out whooping it up, that means something to me because he's trying to come off as this holier-than thou catholic and has already once commented that RoeVWade should have never happened.

ANd if there was any illegalities about the adoptions that is just as important too. I don't care if the kids are white, black, brown, green, blue or yellow with purple stripes. But I do know that parents will do crazy-ass things to get desirable lookings kids. Because this man will be in a position to be above the law when making his decisions he better also be above the law in his life choices.

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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:57 AM
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20. Yes, this really did turn into a flame-fest.
I wanted to track down a rumor I read on DU, because I did not find it believable. I don't really give two hoots about where he adopted his kids.

My daughter has spent time working with unwanted children in Bolivia. My family is very supportive of adoption and foster care.

Who is judging here? So what if he didn't adopt mixed race or handicapped children? Maybe he did not feel qualified to raise them.

There seem to be a lot of overly-sensitive adoptive parents here. The story of Roberts' adopted children was in the news. Of course it is going to be discussed.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:08 AM
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10. I agree
This business of judging him and his wife for adopting two kids is petty and ridiculous. Judge him on the issues he's going to be the swing vote on and make the case against him on that.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:11 AM
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11. what if we found out that the children were adopted illegally
:shrug:

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:28 AM
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13. What if a woman running for office
had an affair and the kids were conceived by some other guy? (adultery = illegal) Would you feel justified in demanding paternity tests for ALL children of people running for public office, to prove they didn't break the law in the process of getting those kids?

What if the act of conception involved sodomy, in a place/time where that was illegal, and some sperm managed to get over to the uterus in a sloppy accident? Perhaps women running for office should have to get an exam to prove they've never been sodomized, so we can be sure they got their kids legally.

What if a woman had an abortion back when it was illegal? Should we assume they've all done that, and start gossiping about it, unless they can prove they didn't?

Are we going to assume all politicians got their kids illegally, unless they prove otherwise? Or just those that got their kids through adoption?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:30 AM
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16. What if Roberts was nominated by Bill Clinton?
Believe me - all of that would be relevant then
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:35 AM
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17. I was disgusted by McCain's comments
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 11:17 AM by lwfern
about Chelsea Clinton.

And the comment below this - which I see now has been deleted (thanks mods) was, if possible, even below that.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:29 AM
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15. Is there any indication whatsoever that they were?
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 10:31 AM by Strawman
Why would this connected DC lawyer/judge have to adopt illegally? That's just a lame example of lets throw out shit and see what sticks. That's what they do. I could give a damn about this guy's kids. He may be anti-choice and anti-environment and a stooge for big business. Isn't that enough to make the case against him? That's what I want to see him grilled on. We should make this fight about the issues that most people agree with us on.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:29 AM
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14. I heard they were Snowflake babies?
:shrug:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:45 AM
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18. Also, adoptive parents, especially those who have
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 10:47 AM by Patiod
"jumped through all the hoops" and waited in all the lines and gone through all the red tape tend to be more anti-choice then other folks -- many operate under the mistaken belief that if only abortions were illegal, there would be plenty of healthy, white, no-strings babies available. (My parents believe that, and I think a lot of other people like them who were frustrated by long waits to adopt feel the same way.)

Unfortunately, they aren't willing to consider that illegality doesn't stop abortions, it just stops safe abortions. Also, they are assuming that young women who are prevented from getting abortions will just gratefully relinquish their babies, even in this era where "illegitimacy" (a concept I don't accept but that's another rant) is more acceptable.

Accuse me of "broad brush" all you want, but I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that adoptive parents are WAY more actively anti-choice then other parents. Not saying it applies to all adoptive parents by any means, but to more to adoptive than non-adoptive parents.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:48 AM
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19. I don't really care.
All I care about is that those 2 kids now have a home.
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