BiggJawn
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:01 PM
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What's the Catholic hymm to the tune of "Deutschland Uber Alles"? |
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I was going past a church today when the bells sounded and the tune they played is better know to me as "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles"...
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:03 PM
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1. Can't remember the name |
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But we sang it in the Episcopal Church, too. It was a totally unremarkable hymn, obviously. I was astonished to learn in high school that it was the German national anthem.
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:04 PM
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2. Besides the hymn, it's originally the Austro-Hungarian Emperor's theme |
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It's the A-H version of "God Save the Queen," which is where Hitler got it.
I forget the hymn though, and we played it in church a couple of weeks ago!
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wryter2000
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:05 PM
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"Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken" by Haydn. I got this off a questionable site, but I think I remember this is right.
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:06 PM
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Thanks, been wracking my brain trying to remember.
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:08 PM
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5. It was the old Austrian anthem... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 12:12 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...and was composed by Haydn.
Gott erhaltet Franz der Kaiser...
The words we know Deutschland, uber alless, are not Nazi, and far earlier.
Hoffmann von Fallersleben wrote the text on the small island of Helgoland off the Northwest German coast, which in the early 1800's was under British rule. He had been deported from the Kingdom of Hannover (home of the British Hannoverian dynasty... ) because of his liberal ideas, which included the demand to establish Germany as a unified, parliamentary nation.
The song was adopted as the new, post-Imperial, Kaiser-free, German anthem by a Socialist government in 1922.
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:29 PM
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6. Originally composed by Franz Josef Haydn |
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and used in his Emperor Quartet (I forget the opus number).
As posters above have said, it was a song in honor of the Emperor of Austria, and then adopted as the German national anthem before the Nazi era.
The hymn words are:
Glorious things of thee are spoken, Zion city of our God He whose word cannot be broken Formed thee for his own abode On the rock of ages founded What can shake they sure repose? With salvation's walls surrounded Thou mayest smile at all thy foes
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BiggJawn
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Mon Jul-25-05 09:54 PM
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I suspected that it had it's roots in a classical composition, but it's been many decades since my last "Music Memory Contest"...
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon Jul-25-05 09:57 PM
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8. In the context of the Emperor Quartet, |
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it's a gentle, peaceful melody.
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BiggJawn
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Mon Jul-25-05 10:31 PM
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Not as much percussions as when played as a March. Yes, I can hear it now.
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Mon Jul-25-05 09:59 PM
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9. When I taught in a Christian school... |
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...the Baptist chaplain unfortunately chose it to sing on the day we had a rabbi come to speak in chapel.
I had no idea anyone would sing a hymn to that tune. The chaplain was horribly embarrassed.
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