So I post this really good overview of the problems

[WCGreen]

that are going on i the labor movement over on GD...

And I get this like Move along sonny, we are grander than you...

We know you post at the Lounge....

Stay at he little people table....

(on edit, i forgot to put what I wrote)



The Teamsters and the SEIU have been
the organizing arm of Big Labor for years...

The SEIU has been fighting for a living wage for over a decade now and has gotten little help from the AFL-CIO even though Sweeney, the head of the AFL is from SEIU...

Look for the communication workers to also bolt...

There has been tension between the Trades, Painters, Plumbers and such, and the other so called non skilled labor unions for years....

I don't like talking about this but the simple fact is the apprentice programs in many cities control who gets to work in the trades and for the longest time, a certain trade would be dominated by a certain ethnicity, for instance here in Cleveland the Italians dominated the Laborers Union, and they would use the union as a way to consolidate power within their ethnic group...

Of course a lot of that has changed. But still, there is a lingering resentment among a sizable number of minorities that there are barriers to entry into the trades put up by white guys.....

[acmavm]

1. Don't feel bad. Would you like the chair next to me?

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[WCGreen]

5. Yes, that would be nice....

Then we could fling mash potato's at the big table

[bridgit]

2. admin may well to consider changing the 'handle' to:

General Derision methinks from time to time :shrug:

1. Contemptuous or jeering laughter; ridicule.
A state of being derided: The proposal was held in derision by members of the board.
2. An object of ridicule; a laughingstock.

i post over there, doesn't bother me, but it is clear; i care less what they think of me while they are soooo busy being 'more liberal than thou'...some of it gets more silly than even the lounge, if you can believe that, while offering no resolution to the topics they 'entertain' whatsoever imo

[WCGreen]

6. They just get so picky over there......

But sometimes, late at night, I can hear them laughing.......

They must be coming over to the lounge to scope out chicks

[bridgit]

7. whole tracts over there remind me of a sign...

...i seen in front of a church one day some time back:

People Are Like Concrete. All Mixed Up & Permanently Set

there may be no more important times than these in which we live to be seen as ready, willing & able to offer alternative solutions to static issues & problems. gd will not make that contribution if-while being so flat-footed while merely regurgitating, at the expense of 'we the people', what is plainly obvious again imo

:hi:

it is better to be 'the river' than 'a' rock ~ but that's just me = what i think

[WCGreen]

9. I like that better to be the river than the rock....

In Empire Falls, one of the reoccurring themes was about controlling the river and how in the end m the river always wins.....

[bridgit]

12. cool, i found the notion while reading: perls...

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gik_gestalt/fritz_perls.html

but the phrase has always stuck with me :hi:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. thanks for the information about labor unions

I appreciate your posts wherever you post them.

[WCGreen]

4. Thank you

[Bossy Monkey]

8. Just alert on the idiot. nt

[XemaSab]

10. I considered posting

my superior poll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3721962&mesg_id=3721962

over in GD, but then it occurred to me that the people in GD are utterly humorless and it would turn into a nasty flamewar with people accusing me of anti-southern/midwestern/western/rhode island bias, and nobody there would ever speak to me again.

[WCGreen]

11. Do it

[Wetzelbill]

13. When you are both an arrogant genius and a blathering fool like I am

You can fit in equally well in both places. :)

But that is some good stuff you posted.

[WCGreen]

14. Thank You thank You....

They got all wierded out on a AFL-CIO connction to a Venezualian anti Chavez thing that was so arcane that if they talked like that to regular people, they eould explode...

BTW, take note, don't get all crazy and wonly out on the campaign trail..... You will loose them after about ten seconds.....

[Wetzelbill]

15. Oh yeah, you gotta keep things simple

Typical boring Democrat stuff, you can put people to sleep. That's what made Clinton so brilliant, the man has a once in a generation mind, but he wasn't arcane or wonky at all. Nor was he crazy sounding. I'm blessed with the gift of humor. People like to listen to me once I get going. I'm hoping to work on that plus slide in some good common sense populist type stuff.

[WCGreen]

16. You will do well my friend

[bertha katzenengel]

17. WC, take GD with a grain of salt.

Some of the regulars' shit doesn't stink.

(I know NOTHING about labor unions, so I can't comment on what you've written. You sure as hell know more than I do. :hi:)

[DrGonzoLives]

18. The only reason to go into GD anymore

is to piss people off. The number of people there looking for actual discussion is so small as to be negligible.

[Wetzelbill]

19. hey I don't like your tone

:)

[DrGonzoLives]

20. OMG U R A FREEPER!!!!11one

I think this is more productive than GD.

[Wetzelbill]

21. What did you say about Wes Clark?

Oh yeah it is..

I like your sig, btw.

[DrGonzoLives]

22. Can't you Kerry-bashers give it up?

Sheesh?

And thanks, it is quite funny.

[Wetzelbill]

23. Howard Dean: DINO

you're welcome