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Tue Jul-26-05 02:23 PM
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"To find a girl's faults, praise her to her friends." |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 02:51 PM by redqueen
I've seen this quote ascribed to Ben Franklin, and also the ubiquitous Anonymous.
My gripe is this: WTF ... "girls"? What, "boys" don't do this? (Yeah, some lie to themselves, but they're no different... fuckers.)
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:25 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:32 PM
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FUCK... I wish sexuality was a choice.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:26 PM
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3. I still consider myself a girl |
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I'm a mom and an adult, but I still feel youthful and carefree at times and don't want to deal with all that womanhood entails. (my husband is still a boy on 'boy's golf day' or times when he and our son are playing basket ball outside 'boys time' where 'girls are not allowed'.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:29 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:30 PM
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5. it means that if you say something good about the "girl" |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 02:31 PM by kick-ass-bob
her friends will tell you everything that's wrong with her.
it's not too nice.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:32 PM
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Maybe I *should* have a crush on you. :P
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:33 PM
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9. It isn't nice at all but I have to say |
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that I know some girls that are like what he describes.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:34 PM
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it's the generalizing that is so ugly.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:37 PM
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19. Yup...I've heard plenty of men do the same thing. |
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It's a human quality, I'm sorry to report.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:43 PM
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32. Yes unfortunately it is! |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:34 PM
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11. Well, to be fair that's not altogether untrue |
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Not all "girls" do that, but some do. Some guys do too. People suck. :(
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:35 PM
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14. Now THAT'S not a generalization..... |
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:eyes:
(How about Mean People Suck....)
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:37 PM
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18. Why the rolly eyes for this generalization, but not that one? n/t |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:39 PM
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I thought you all were pissed about the girl comment. (I do have to say I can't think of one female "friend" I had in high school who didn't dish dirt on me).
Now that I get it, a double :eyes: :eyes: for Ben....and I was just jokin with dolo....
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:42 PM
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Duh... just ignore me. :blush:
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:47 PM
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38. No, I'm glad you said something so I could redeem myself from |
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sounding so stupid in the earlier post. And if someone asked me about you I'd only say nice things....heh heh :7
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:38 PM
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21. Ok, mean people suck too |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:33 PM
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8. Whereas you can just ask a guy's friends (nt) |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:36 PM
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15. Oh, for cryin' out loud. |
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You're really going to get upset about something said by a guy who is two hundred years' dead?
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:37 PM
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17. He also said "all Jasons are dicks" |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:38 PM
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20. He'd be correct, in that case! |
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:43 PM
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30. I love the squirrel, too. |
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It always makes me laugh.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:40 PM
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Guys are still spewing it, and dumbass chicks are still saying "haha, that's so true!"
It pisses me off, is that not okay with you?
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:45 PM
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Ben Franklin pisses you off? |
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That's....um....different.
Plus, I doubt that "guys are still spewing it", as it's the first time I remember ever hearing such a statement. I think you're just looking for a little bit more (in this case) than actually exists.
Also, you need not ask my approval if something pisses you off. I neither hold your mood in approval nor disapproval. I merely thought that you were applying 20th (or 21st) century standards to an 18th century dead guy.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:49 PM
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40. No... the fact that people are this fucking stupid pisses me off. |
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You're calling me a liar now, huh?
Do I need to link to the thread where it's being giggled about? Will you stop calling me a liar then?
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:51 PM
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45. I never said anything of the sort. |
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If my statements have been misinterpreted, I sincerely apologize for not being more clear. I have no interest in a pissing contest about who said what to whom in any other thread, either.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:55 PM
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"I doubt that "guys are still spewing it", as it's the first time I remember ever hearing such a statement. I think you're just looking for a little bit more (in this case) than actually exists."
How else can that be interpreted, other than "no they're not".
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Tue Jul-26-05 03:03 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 03:15 PM
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51. well I don't know any guys who say that kind of stuff currently |
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and most of my WOMEN friends, don't talk trash about each other for the most part. I do think guys joke more about their buddies' limitations sometimes, as a "joking with the guys" bonding- ritual kind of thing. At least that's what I have seen with some groups of men that I have spent time with.
but that kind of thinking can be tedious, yes.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:36 PM
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16. To be fair, if it IS Ben Franklin... |
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seriously, we're talking about 18th Century here. There was no such thing as political correctness.
Yes, it's absolutely wrong by today's standards, but women were still property back then. Being referred to as "girls" was probably progressive.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:42 PM
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27. probably somewhat true about the 'girls' part |
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but, the real meaning of the quote is still pretty shitty.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:44 PM
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34. Okay, but you still miss the point of what I'm saying. |
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It'd be like if any of us Americans got offended when we look back on some of the demeaning comments made by the British back when we were just their colonies. It's a complete lack of historical perspective.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:49 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:45 PM
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Depends on how you interpret it.
One meaning would be that if you ask a womans female friends what her faults are. They will not tell you. Only by duplicitous means can you get them to reveal any of her faults.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:42 PM
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28. What was the 18th century connotation |
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Actually I have heard this term "Girls" used very affectionately in the 20th century.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:45 PM
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37. Are "girls" the only people engaging in this sort of behavior? |
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I say no.
I think "boys" do it just as much, if not more. Especially if they think it'll help them get in your pants.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:47 PM
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Boys will answer the direct question. No need for any subterfuge to get the real information from them.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:49 PM
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41. Yep, them boys will do anything to get into a girl's pants |
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Now how do we play this? Is it like tennis? Do I bat a generalization about girls in your direction now?
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:44 PM
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35. I'd say 'girls' is probably correct in this situation. |
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I like to think that 'women' aren't quite so petty.
If there can be a host of ways to separate the men from the boys, it seems resonable that there are ways to separate the women from the girls as well.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:50 PM
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44. I should've worded the OP more carefully. |
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I don't object to his use of the term "girls"... I object to his assertion that this is a trait that only females posess.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:50 PM
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"To find a girl's faults, praise her to her mother."
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:53 PM
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47. No, "boys" don't do that. Sorry. |
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What men will do is talk about each other only around people they already know, and know the target individual.
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Tue Jul-26-05 02:57 PM
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49. I've had 40 year old female coworkers say 'girls'. |
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Such as 'the girls and I went to the lake'.
As far as Ben Franklin.. we must be doing pretty good as a society if you have to look back 200 years ago for things to be 'offended' by or else you have a lot of spare time.
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Tue Jul-26-05 03:03 PM
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It's not the term that's the problem.
Also, I said upthread the reason this came up is that guys are STILL spewing it.
Sheesh.
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