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Tue Jul-26-05 08:56 PM
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PEOPLE I'd like to point out something to all you who think I'm a sexist |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3729536&mesg_id=3729787or whatever REGARDING THIS THREAD I'm on your side here....don't buy one. Can I have my fucking testicles back now, or have you all laid claim to them.
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:58 PM
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1. If you defended a site that sells shirts that say |
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"The best way to a woman's heart is through her rib cage" then you can have your testicles back after I bread and fry them.
Sincerely,
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:59 PM
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2. I'm not defending this site |
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I'm saying.... DON'T buy them. It's the best way to voice your displeasure... through boycott
ANd leave my nads alone dammit!
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:12 PM
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66. It's OK to fry your testicles because you are the oppressor. |
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HEyHEY, I love ya man, but you had that one coming.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:08 PM
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10. For what? People are missing the point |
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I'm on your side.. I'm suggesting we boycott this company
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:10 PM
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12. Well...you just expressed yourself too flippantly I think. |
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I know you're on the same side, but maybe next time you'll express your thoughts completely so there's less confusion. I dunno.
I think I've had my fill of crap for a night. It might be time for me to head out...
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:10 PM
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15. Yeha, you better mutha fucka! |
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WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH!?!?! ;-)
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:08 AM
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69. And that boycott should include |
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refusing to allow them to advertise here.
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Wed Jul-27-05 04:02 AM
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73. "... boycott this company..." |
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Like we were all rushing out ot buy sick shirts BEFORE the proposed boycott. :eyes:
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Go! Go! Go!
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:36 PM
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39. AS playful as that was |
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...I'm not even gonna get into it
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:04 PM
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51. Her point was that those are the only conditions |
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in which she would return the balls of ANYONE who defended that website. I understand you're saying the spirit of your previous post was not defensive of the advertiser, and in the context of other posts you've made here and further along in this thread, I'll take your word for it. It's amazing, though, how the words people choose often belie sentiments of which they're consciously unaware, especially on subjects as complex and emotionally (not to mention practically) consequential as gender role attitudes. It's true of my own statements sometimes, and getting called out on them can provide a heads-up and an opportunity to inventory my own mind for latent thoughts and feelings that conflict with others I hold in conscious, high intellectual esteem. It's one of the things I love about this forum. We're complex creatures; I become more aware of my own personal complexities and inconsistencies by interacting with such a tough, informed, critical, and sophisticated crowd.
But I couldn't help bust a gut over the colorfulness of nothingshocksmeanymore's comeback.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:06 PM
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54. I would have just added, "and they've passed through the cat." |
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An otherwise exemplary response.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:12 PM
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57. Except my cat would never have kept them down. |
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Not enough grass in the world...
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:13 PM
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58. WHATTTTTTT!!! What in hell? |
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What site is selling shirts that say that?
:shrug:
What's been going on while I've been gone?????????
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:01 PM
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3. Three... two... one... |
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Looks like Skinner removed the offending ad.
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the way they dogpiled on you for suggesting to not do buisness with them you'd think you posted a picture of yourself wearing said offensive t-shirt.
if you dont support a company, the best way to not help them is to indeed not buy from them. i dont see why you got ragged on here.
i mean, yea your comment could have been read in a flippant manner making people think you didnt mind the shirts... but i dont think that you are like that, and people passed some hasty judgement on you.
people, return the man's testicles...
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:07 PM
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9. I know, it's like we can have a war going on |
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But as soon as someone makes a minor comment in SUPPORT of the norm they get gang beat because a few misunderstood it
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:08 PM
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11. It wasn't the offensive t-shirts |
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We're all adults and we all know things like that exist. It was the fact that DU, of all places, was advertising them (we have since discovered it was inadvertent, which I suspected, but is beside the point). People were rightfully voicing their dismay that they were at DU. The response, "Don't buy one" appeared to be very dismissive to that viewpoint, in the same way that "Don't have one" dismisses the anti-abortion viewpoint.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:10 PM
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13. Well, people should maybe clairfy what someone means |
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Before they get the lynch mobs and torches out
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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you posted a freakin' driveby. Don't complain about people not knowing what you meant when you didn't bother to even try to tell them.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:15 PM
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20. It was clear as a bell "Then Don't buy them" all the elements of a sentenc |
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Exist there. What was in question was the tone.
I guess then you support the "Shoot first, ask questions later" policy....being from Texas.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:18 PM
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25. Believe me, if I shot you... |
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you'd know it and you wouldn't get back up. :P
One thing you might want to try, if you're going to continue to post drivebys that could be "misinterpretted" because of tone, is DUs vast collection of smilies. You'd be amazed what a simple ;), :evilgrin:, or :sarcasm: can do.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:20 PM
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27. I don't see a tone for "Take sentence at face value" |
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Perhaps it's something to lobby skinner for.
That and a fishtank... I think the lounge could use a fishtank. :-)
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:22 PM
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29. Fishtanks are so soothing |
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:)
I hope you understand now what we all thought you meant when you said "don't buy one". With no further explanation it really did come across as blowing our concerns off rather than a call for a boycott.
But I'm going to believe you had good intentions. And a deadpan/earnest smilie would come in handy.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:40 PM
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41. Only a rightwing power-fetishist human-centric piece of shit would suggest |
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that "owning" an animal is an okay behavior.
meaning no offense, but I thought we were liberals here, not freeperish animal-hating humans-first unethical cycle-of-life-destroying shitknockers.
PETA should set you on fire. After they spray you with fake blood and make you live in a 3'x3'x3' cage for seven years.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:43 PM
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43. You know, it's funny, I hear that all the time |
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how about a cowbell smilie then |
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the lounge could use a little cowbell smilie.
Edit for a space
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:18 PM
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He was very clear from what I read. He said boycott.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:19 PM
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26. No...he said "don't buy one" |
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which is not necessarily the same thing.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:21 PM
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Said "Don't buy"
Hrrmmm.... very strange how they mean the same thing.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:14 PM
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18. Maybe someone shouldn't be defensive |
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When they made what appeared to be a dismissive post, and then act all wounded because everyone misunderstood. Look, if you didn't mean it that way, that's cool. But when I first read your response, I saw it exactly the same way that everyone else did. Not until I read your subsequent thread did I realize it may have been a misunderstanding. The responses to your post were exactly what it deserved, giving what that post appeared to be.
Edited for grammar.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:16 PM
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21. Not defensive or wounded by any means... I just wanted to clear |
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Things up here. I see I'm still getting attacked for it by some.
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48. Everyone else? I didn't take as a misogynistic statement. |
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I thought HEyHEy was speaking a good truth - if you don't like it, then don't buy it.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:43 PM
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62. In the context of that thread |
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A thread where people where upset that such advertising was taking place on DU, it appeared very dismissive. He went on to say that it was a misunderstanding, and if he says so, I believe him, although I don't think he understands why people misunderstood. But, until he clarified what he said, it very much came across as "You don't like it, ignore it". And, if that was indeed what he meant, then people were right to call him on it. It has nothing to do with censorship.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:10 PM
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14. well, now I don't have to bother typing that. |
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50. YAAAAAYYYYYYY censorship!! |
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Yes indeedy, let's make sure that everyone who is on our side (considering that site has no pro-Shrubbie stuff, only anti-Shrubbie stuff), or - who SAYS they are on our side - is 100% perfectly subscribving to our agenda, and if they aren't, then we'll leave them behind.
Gosh, that's the most wonderful, awesome, incredible liberal attitude. It's the attitude I love the most. It's the attitude that says "Sorry, you can't march with us in the gay pride parade because you are an NRA member" or "You can't join us in the pro-choice parade because you don't support gay marriage" or "You can't come to the anti-war rally with us because you eat meat".
Yeah, it's all SOOOOOOOOOOO fucking sensible.
being a liberal is all about one perfect, holy, sancrosanct, fully-realized agenda.
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52. Did you actually read some of the shirts in question? |
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Like the one about "If I wanted to hear what you have to say, I'd take my cock out of your mouth"?
Good lord and butter.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:09 PM
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55. Yes, I did - I read, perhaps, 100 of them |
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Whatever is on that front page.
Of course some of them are offensive.
But I don't believe that we liberals can continuie to afford to play the same card taht our racist, ignorant, traitor fuck of a president played - the "you are with us, or you are against us" todder-like bullshit idealogy.
I find it sad that so many liberals - and, holy God, I came across a lot of them in seminary and in NYC - take the "you are with us 100 percent, are you are nothying but shitfilled plankton" stance.
I find that stance to be fucking bullshit.
I ********refuse********* to write someone off just because of the reason that, of all the things they do, a ****whopping**** 0.1% of it isn't in perfect agreement with me.
That's one of the things that makes the democratic party all fucked up.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:12 PM
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56. Bully for you, but for me personally... |
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I'm not playing nice with people who peddle that kind of sexist crap. And it wasn't just the sexist crap either. Did you see the Gitmo stuff?
These people are not allies by any stretch of the imagination.
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67. It would be funny if a woman wore it. |
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60. I don't know how the hell you got all that from what I posted |
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If you think that people don't have a right to be offended, and don't have a right to express that, or to be dismayed that a website they love to frequent would advertise such material, then I don't know how anyone could possibly construe THAT as liberal. I'm sorry. I don't feel that ANYONE should have had to see those adds and keep their mouths shut. Telling people to shut up is liberal?
I'm sorry. I don't find you or anyone else who wants to shut people up by attempting to shame them and accuse them of not being liberal all that credible when they rail on about freedom of expression. If you don't like that some people were upset by those ads, then you have every right to say so. But don't go telling me that I'm no liberal because I DON'T want to shut them up. Your form of stifling expression is no better than anyone else's.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:13 PM
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17. You can have one testicle back. |
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We'll hold the other one hostage to make sure you stay in line from now on.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:14 PM
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19. I think you lost them... eom |
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:25 PM
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30. It sure is easy to jump on the "you're a sexist" bandwagon. |
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The fare is cheap, and porters are very accomodating.
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31. There's a really easy way to avoid being called a sexist... |
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:27 PM
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32. That should be on a greeting card. |
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It sums everything up quite nicely, doesn't it?
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35. I should quit my crappy state job... |
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and go to work for Hallmark. :)
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40. You would say that, you sexist pig. |
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42. Just as easy as the "you're a racist" and "you're a misogynist" |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:42 PM
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61. Ah. You understand perfectly. |
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53. some of them are stacked, too. |
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Just be lucky you got away with saying that word.
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34. I shoulda used "cajones!" |
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47. I think you're a sexist pig, but your mom is hot, so it's okay. |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:21 PM
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59. You can never have your testicles "back." |
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You are very much like a museum -- and your testicles are "on loan" from the human race.
For a short time you may choose how to (...um, sorry, there is no polite way to say this...) display them.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:46 PM
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63. What's wrong with being sexy? |
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64. Best to start off apologetic so you don't |
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get your testicles handed to you again. Also, make sure you are cooled off before you reply. I have made that same mistake a few times.
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71. No, I'm tired of apologizing to the overreactors here |
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:12 PM
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65. another of the few reasons i don't habit DU |
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are those f*cking ads on the Latest page. i've made my complaint to the admn, for what it's worth. And i feel fine with my own decision to not contribute to their cause as long as they are front and center on the page.
i guess it's a stalemate, except they have the corporate support in the form of offensive ads...
but i can sleep at nite knowing i don't contribute to that shite.
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