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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:11 AM
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What's this about the Red Sox trading Manny Ramirez?
They had better not trade my favorite Red Sock!

Is this just a rumor, or is Theo Epstein just that dumb?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:14 AM
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1. Just Rumor?
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 12:18 AM by stepnw1f
Three-team megadeal hits snag; deadline looming
July 29, 2005, 11:05 PM ET
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2118911

Sox will explore Ramirez trade, but will be hard
July 29, 2005, 9:26 AM ET
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2119978
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:14 AM
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2. He got "Boo-ed" at Fenway today.
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 12:15 AM by sleipnir
He's gone, it's a done deal. Look for the right time to make a pickup. Wouldn't that just be perfect if the Yankees bought him and they pounded the crap out the Red Sox, with yet another one of the defectors from Red Sox Nation. HA!!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:15 AM
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3. he is
there goes the team i probably was gonna have to root for in the playoffs. Audrey Huff and Mike Cameron arent bad but still I agree, Id prefer Manny.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:16 AM
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5. This is messed up.
They can't trade Manny for some dude from TB.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:17 AM
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6. You'll get Mike Cameron too
:evilgrin:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:19 AM
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8. who we covetted oddly enough
i would love to trade ponson for pedro but thats asking the orioles to make the playoffs.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:20 AM
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10. You can pry my Pedro from my cold dead hands man!
he's fast becoming my favorite player
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:33 AM
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15. I was kidding
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:33 AM
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16. ...
:7
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:35 AM
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17. do y'all got any starting pitching though
Ponson is what I say sucks.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:39 AM
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18. Benson is doing good lately
Pedro has been great all year and Zambrano has really picked it up after the all-star break...after that Ishii has been a bust and Glavine has been so-so. I just can't wait to get Trachsel back.

Not sure what happened to the O's this year...they were doing great and all of the sudden the bottom dropped out
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:51 AM
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20. injuries sigh
looks like I am going for the Cards or anyone but the Yanks in the playoffs. Its gonna be the same ole same ole in the East this fall and I am gonna be bitter.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:17 AM
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7. was a three way deal
Mannys supposely headed to the Mets with Pedro. Anyhow plan remains the same, if the O's dont make it, Ill hope for a STL-Boston redux, anyone but the Yankees still.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:16 AM
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4. They have until noon tomorrow
he was going to trade Manny to the Mets for Mike Cameron and Aubry Huff of the Devil Rays. It was about to go through but Epstein wanted a little more in the deal...I guess the crack he was smoking was wearing off. Not that I'm complaining, Manny would look really nice in Mets pinstripes
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:20 AM
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11. I Think It's A Wake Up Call
Manny's numbers are down. They want them up. This is a warning, I think.
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jurassicpork Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:24 AM
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12. Just the batting average
is down but the power numbers are better than what they've been in years. Plus the BA is going up with each day.

But we go through this with Manny every year. How can he want to leave a World Championship team, for which he was the Series MVP, when he's having a great power season? "For more privacy?" The idiot doesn't talk to the press, to begin with!

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:25 AM
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13. if he wants privacy
New York is not the kind of town he should be going to
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:19 AM
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9. They got a new curse to begin, you know
Now that there old excuse for losing is gone, they need a new trade to blame it all on.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:27 AM
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14. He's demanding a trade, dogging it, and declined to go in when Francona
asked him to. When is it ever dumb to trade a cancer?
Give a rest to giving Ramirez a free pass
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | July 28, 2005

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- On the same field where Manny Ramirez made his famous U-turn from the batter's box and was belatedly chastised by Red Sox manager Grady Little three years ago, the Red Sox left fielder once again disgraced himself and the uniform he wears, insisting Tuesday night that he be given the day off yesterday even though Sox manager Terry Francona told him the club was in a ''bind" because of Trot Nixon's injury, and needed him.

Ramirez's demand not to be inserted in the lineup came only a short time after he jogged to first base in the 10th inning of the team's 10-9 win over the Devil Rays, arriving safely only because of a misplay by the Devil Rays. Jason Varitek subsequently hit a double that scored Edgar Renteria with what proved to be the winning run, but no thanks to Ramirez, who appeared unperturbed at the notion of hitting into an inning-ending double play.

Because he is the team's cleanup hitter, has Hall of Fame ability, and possesses a contract, the second-richest in the game, that makes him unmovable, Ramirez is rarely held accountable. ''Manny being Manny" has become as much a part of the New England lexicon as pahking the cah in Hahvahd Yahd. One day someone from within the Sox clubhouse or in the Yawkey Way offices will rise up and condemn him for his selfish indifference.

That day has yet to come, mainly because his bosses and his teammates feel like Ramirez is, in essence, holding the team hostage. Speak out against him, and the fear is that Ramirez will withdraw like a petulant child and go into a three-year pout. Let it slide, and you have a man with the potential of repeating as the World Series MVP.

(more)
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/07/28/give_a_rest_to_giving_ramirez_a_free_pass/
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jurassicpork Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:40 AM
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19. Now, let's substitute...
...Manny for Bush and a few other words and here's how it would read:

"Bush is rarely held accountable. "Bush being Bush" has become as much a part of the New England lexicon as pahking the cah in Hahvahd Yahd. One day someone from within the blogosphere or in the mainstream media will rise up and condemn him for his selfish indifference."

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:09 AM
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21. Even better: trade him to Tampa Bay!
:P
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