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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:26 PM
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Are men pigs?
One time my lady friend was dealing with a lot of baggage from the past involving men. But the contention is that men, if given the opportunity would dump their current girlfriend or wife for someone that in their eyes was sexier, and if he did stay with his significant other, it was simply because his brain told him that it would be wrong to leave her for the other woman and never because he loved his current girlfriend/wife so much that he would want to stay. I hope I didn't confuse anybody. What do you think?
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Kalish Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:27 PM
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1. women cheat too
maybe not as much though.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:30 PM
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7. Supposedly, women cheat only because they are neglected.
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Kalish Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:32 PM
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9. don't believe it
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:15 PM
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35. WTF
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:28 PM
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2. yes, we are.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:58 PM
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30. They cheat becaue there horny.... Just like Men
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:28 PM
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3. Sometimes yes, but then again so are some women.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:29 PM
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4. I think I understand
My answer is no, they are not. Some people are jerks but not all of them.

It sounds to me like she was suffering from a sever heartbreak and hadn't worked past her pain yet.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:30 PM
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5. That's a blanket statement about all men
based on her observation of a fairly restricted sampling.

I've had the dear pleasure of knowing some incredibly wonderful men in my life. So, while I can't attest to what runs through their minds, I can assure that not all men are anything close to pigs.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:30 PM
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6. Speaking For Myself Only .... Yep!
No question about it.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:31 PM
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8. Yes. And women are spiders.
--p!
Radiant.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:32 PM
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11. black widow spiders...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:37 PM
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14. Will you walk into my parlor?
"Will you walk into my parlor?" said the spider to the fly;
"'Tis the prettiest little parlor that ever you did spy.
The way into my parlor is up a winding stair,
And I have many pretty things to show when you are there."
"O no, no," said the little fly, "To ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne'er come down again."

"I'm sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high;
Will you rest upon my little bed?" said the spider to the fly.
"There are pretty curtains drawn around, the sheets are fine and thin,
And if you like to rest awhile, I'll snugly tuck you in."
"O no, no," said the little fly, "for I've often heard it said,
They NEVER, NEVER WAKE again, who sleep upon YOUR bed."

Said the cunning spider to the fly, "Dear friend, what shall I do,
To prove the warm affection I've always felt for you?
I have within my pantry good store of all that's nice;
I'm sure you're very welcome; will you please to take a slice?
"O no, no," said the little fly, "kind sir, that cannot be;
I've heard what's in your pantry, and I do not wish to see."

"Sweet creature!" said the spider, "you're witty and you're wise,
How handsome are your gauzy wings, how brilliant are your eyes!
I have a little looking-glass upon my parlor shelf,
If you'll step in one moment dear, you shall behold yourself."
I thank you, gentle sir," she said, "for what you're pleased to say,
And bidding you good-morning NOW, I'll call ANOTHER day."

The spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
For well he knew the silly fly would soon be back again:
So he wove a subtle web, in a little corner sly,
And set his table ready to dine upon the fly.
Then he came out to his door again, and merrily did sing,
"Come hither, hither, pretty fly, with the pearl and silver wing:
Your robes are green and purple; there's a crest upon your head;
Your eyes are like the diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead."

Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little fly,
Hearing his wily flattering words, came slowly flitting by.
With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer drew,
Thinking only of her crested head - POOR FOOLISH THING! At last,
Up jumped the cunning spider, and fiercely held her fast.
He dragged her up his winding stair, into his dismal den,
Within his little parlor; but she ne'er came out again!

And now, dear little children, who may this story read,
To idle, silly, flattering words, I pray you ne'er give heed;
Unto an evil counselor close heart, and ear, and eye,
And take a lesson from this tale of the Spider and the Fly.





That's one of my favorite fables.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:32 PM
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10. Nah, just the ones she likes to date.
Or you could tell her that the one thing in common with all her failed relationships is her.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:33 PM
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12. No.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 06:34 PM by Bunny
Some men are assholes, as are some women.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:35 PM
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13. c'mon, Dude....
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:39 PM
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15. As much as you have to use that image
Do you just keep it in your clip board at all times. :P

BTW, I love it! :hi:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:40 PM
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17. Actually, I deleted all my favorite pics and smilies due to
spyware problems...but, I'm quick with the google images :hi:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:45 PM
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22. Spyware is the brain child of the devil
I hope you have it cleaned up now. Sometimes that stuff is almost impossible to remove.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:39 PM
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16. Men aren't so much pigs
as they are biologically wired to "spread heir seed" and need sexual variety to satisfy their primal instincts of keeping civilization going.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:44 PM
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20. This is DU, where saying the sky is blue doesn't make it
necessarily so.

Can you back that up with a link, or at the very least, a bibliography?

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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:56 PM
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28. Pretty good book
Why Men Don't Listen, and Why Women Can't Read Maps by Barbara and Allan Pease.

Pretty good book on biopsychology, and how brains are wired by certain characteristics. It supports the theory (which really isn't much of a theory, its the damn truth) that homosexuality is as natural as having red hair.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:41 PM
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18. .

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:43 PM
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19. And that's 6 reasons why men should never wear tight pants...
Well, 3 reasons times two men...

:wow:

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:03 PM
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32. I'm all out of love. I'm so lost withOUT you...

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Old_Fart Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:44 PM
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21. "Circe must have thought so"
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:54 PM
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26. Ha Ha!
Well played!
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Old_Fart Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:01 AM
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41. "Thank you"
:evilgrin:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:46 PM
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23. No, but some people make really bad choices in their search for love.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 06:51 PM by blondeatlast
It's just so conveeeeeeenient to blame it on the entire gender.

Virtually all of the men I know are really great people, and my hubby is as nearly a prince as I ever want to get.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:50 PM
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24. Oh, come on!!
Only assholes are assholes.

I've known more married women who cheat than married men. It's unhealthy (as well as inaccurate) to think of an entire gender that way.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:53 PM
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25. I am married to the most wonderful man in the world and know for a fact
there are women out in the world who consider him a total pig, cuz of what he did to them. Conversely, I know there are some men who would say horrible things about what I did to them. However, we have been together for decades and I would never do anything to hurt him for a moment and believe he feels the same. Guess it is the person and the timing.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:56 PM
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27. I think that's a load of nonsense
And extremely unfair to guys. Guys look. They even fantasize. But I think most of them know the difference between fantasy and reality. I also think you do men a disservice by implying they don't really know what it means to love somebody.

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 06:57 PM
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29. I'm not saying it. My friend said it.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:12 PM
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33. But you're asking it
So you either think it may have merit or you just want to push our buttons. ;)
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:02 PM
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31. Its easy for people who've been burned in the past
to waste hours on end demonizing the opposite sex, when if they got really real with themselves, would find out that they are just as obnoxious and selfish as anyone else -that they too have committed the very sins that they are ready to beat everyone else over the head for, and that everyone on some level is obnoxious and selfish regardless of sex, and that people who really like themselves and are grateful for Life with the big L, shrug their shoulders at the obnoxiousness and selfishness of the world and move on and find a lot more happiness than the people who want to make immature blanket designations like, "All men are pigs."
statements like this usually come from women who didn't like themselves that much long before they ever got burned by a man -and ironically enough, not liking yourself is the number 1 best way to go about getting burned.

moral: people who like themselves deal with disappoints and move on without castigating an entire sex for it.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:15 PM
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34. Some are, some are not!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:30 PM
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36. Oh dear, this looks like a flamewar in the making
:popcorn:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:33 PM
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37. Please pass the popcorn...
:popcorn:

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:37 PM
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38. they are
men suck.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:37 PM
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39. Some are. Some aren't.
There are just as many different types of men as there are different types of women. Some people need to examine why they keep choosing the same type of boyfriend/girlfriend over and over and over.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:42 PM
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40. Is this a poorly worded joke?
:shrug:
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:14 AM
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42. As a member of that half of the human species that is slandered...
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 02:14 AM by Solon
I must protest this arrogant over-generalization of men. Not all men are pigs, just 99.9999999999% of us are. :)
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 02:17 AM
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43. Locking
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 02:27 AM by southlandshari
Calling for discussion on the question of whether or not all men are pigs infers that there are valid arguments in favor of this concept. There are not.

Please refer to DU rules regarding broad brush and bigoted statements:

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