Mom Threatens To Blow Up Courthouse After Daughter's Sentencing

[CatWoman]

BARTOW, Fla. -- The mother of a 12-year-old car thief stormed out of a Polk County courtroom Thursday. She threatened to blow the place up out of anger over the 10-year sentence that was just handed to her daughter.

"This is a very serious, serious event," said Judge Charles B. Curry.

Curry sentenced 12-year-old Dekyra Bush to a total of 10 years in state custody for taking a joyride in a car back in June and then hitting two Polk County sheriff's cruisers before deputies fired a total of nine shots into the car to stop her.

http://www.wftv.com/news/4811007/detail.html

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. Ah, Florida - of course.

Curious how that woman voted.

Also curious how many years she's gonna end up in prison.


Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed.

[El Fuego]

29. I was going to say that!

And I'm from Florida.

[Old_Fart]

2. Her last name is Bush?

They start out young.

[Shell Beau]

3. 12 years old? Whoa and she hit police cars and got

shot at, and now the mom is going to blow up the courthouse? Does the madness stop? :crazy:

[LisaL]

4. How lovely. Now mother daughter team can spend time in

prison together.

[demnan]

5. Sentencing children with adult sentences is wrong

I don't agree with the behavior here, but let's face it - 10 years is too much, murderers and pedophiles get less time if they have good lawyers.

[LisaL]

6. Yep, and every time you think something is wrong, you should

threaten to blow up the court house.
:sarcasm:

[demnan]

7. No of course not

but I was just trying to put some perspective on the situation.

[LisaL]

8. Perspective. Considering how the mother is, it's not surprising

this kid turned out the way she did. An apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[Kraklen]

9. What a steaming pile of horseshit.

Are your kids fucked up too?

[CatWoman]

10. don't know about her's

but mine sure in the fuck is.

[LisaL]

11. Nope.

They aren't out stealing cars, if that is what you want to know
:spank:

[Kraklen]

No.

I'm asking if they're so full of it.

[Kraklen]

12. No.

I'm asking if they're so full of it.

[LisaL]

14. Actually, you are full of it.

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[bertha katzenengel]

17. A ten year sentence for a twelve year old girl is right?

For the crimes of joyriding and property damage?

Just checking - I'm not sure I have your POV correctly.

[Kraklen]

19. It's the name, dude.

Not the last name, the first name.

[bertha katzenengel]

24. Yeah.

Shameful.

[LisaL]

21. Yes, it's for the child. I imagine they could sentence the mother

too, if they take that threat seriously.
But the article says nothing about possible charges for the mother.

[bertha katzenengel]

22. I was unclear: I was asking you if you think the sentence given

the child is RIGHT. IOW if you were the judge, would you have sentenced a child to ten years in prison for those crimes?

[LisaL]

26. Without a doubt. This child could have killed people.

She also could have been killed, considering she was shot at 9 times.
For her own safety and for safety of others, I don't find that sentence excessive at all.

[neweurope]

45. Then pray nothing like this will ever happen to you and yours.

I have found out that we have to pay for any harsh judgement ever made, and your judgement was harsh, to say the least..


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[Kraklen]

47. Eh, nobody's that dumb.

Don't feed it.

[bertha katzenengel]

53. boy, i'm slow

duh

[LisaL]

58. You know, if there is something I don't worry about, is that I or my

kids are going to steal a car and go joy riding.
Of all the things going on in the world, somehow this one doesn't scare me
:eyes:

[skygazer]

61. So since it's not a threat to you and yours

It's okay if other people's kids are sentenced to ten years for taking a joyride at the age of 12.

Okay, I think I've got it now.

Just what do you think ten years of incarceration is going to do to a 12 year old kid? Turn her into a model citizen?

Certainly, punishment is warranted - however, you pointed out yourself that her mother's behavior shows that she probably has had little guidance. Instead of compassion for that, you feel it's right to lock her up and throw away the key.

I don't understand you people who would rather just lock people up than try to get to the root of a problem - which in this case is most likely a rotten home life and lack of guidance. People who want to solve society's problems by building more prisons but never funding any social programs.

[LisaL]

63. And what do you think should be done with her?

Give her back to her mother? What is she going to do next time?
She already steals cars at 12. She is getting shot at by the police. She is lucky they weren't good shots, or she would have been dead by now. Do you think she will just behave if nothing is done to correct this behavior?

[skygazer]

64. Do you honestly think TEN YEARS is warranted?

As I said in my post, of course punishment is warranted. Ever hear the old saying about the punishment fitting the crime? Evidently the judge never did. The punishment does not fit the crime. As for what punishment would fit it, I think it would make a lot of sense to have a social worker look into the home situation and make an evaluation as to whether it's a suitable one, I think she should certainly have to pay some sort of restitution, perhaps some time (certainly not ten years) in a decent juvenile facility and maybe get some counseling.

You didn't answer MY question, though. Do you think after ten years of incarceration, she'll then behave?

[LisaL]

65. Will she behave in 10 years? I guess we will have to wait and see.

[skygazer]

67. Well, there's obviously no point in debating you

You argue like a Republican - when asked a direct question, you evade and stonewall and simply don't answer it.

Think I'll go find a Panda thread......

[LisaL]

68. What do you expect me to say? I am no psychic.

I have no way of knowing whether she will behave in 10 years or not.

[skygazer]

69. No brainiac either

Since you obviously don't know what "do you think" means.

bye

[bertha katzenengel]

48. I give up.

I can't try to understand your frame of reference. I'm incapable of conceiving of a world where it's right to throw little girls away like that.

[neweurope]

49. So am I. I'm in need of a

:hug:

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[bertha katzenengel]

52. I think a lot of us do, neweurope

:grouphug:

[neweurope]

56. Yes. And therefore (and because I love the smilie so much):

:grouphug:

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[Sequoia]

73. Guess lizzy thinks the Fresno girl should've been thrown in jail too.

I'm starting to sizzle here.

[Nabia2004]

55. That kid will leave jail a well trained criminal

That sentence was a miscarriage of justice.

[Sequoia]

71. You're kidding of course.

[Sequoia]

70. How do you know about the mother? Is she Black?

(Throw the book.) Sure can't be a rich white person. I'd be upset if my child was charged with 10 years. That is just not right. I'm sick of our country treating children like this. Joy ride: big deal. Slamming into the cops: so what. Them shooting her: disgusting. The judge: moron.

[skygazer]

72. Waste of time

It's like arguing with a brick wall.

[Sequoia]

74. Heh, heh, I do that everyday, and on a soapbox no doubt!

[Old_Fart]

20. 10 years is too long

Is it probation or jail?

[Der Blaue Engel]

13. I'm kind of freaked out that a 12-year-old gets 10 years

For going on a joyride. Anyone else? Most child-rapists don't even get that long.

on edit: I was working on this post for way too long and other posts about this were added in the meantime. But I'm still freaked out about it.

[CatWoman]

15. that bothers me, too

seems the judge did go overboard.

[Kraklen]

16. I'll say.

Imagine if it happened to your kid.

[One_Life_To_Give]

35. What were we not told?

Maybe it was just a joyride and maybe not?
Most joyrides don't end with nine bullets in the car.
The judge should also be viewing the girls history as well.

[youspeakmylanguage]

39. I don't understand how a 12 year-old can be sentenced to 10 years...

...yet a child that murders someone is only housed until they turn 18, if they're charged as a juvenile. Was this girl not charged as a juvenile, and if so, why?

[BikeWriter]

54. Me, too. She's a fuck'n child for Keerist's sake!

[neweurope]

18. The scandal is not that an evidently not-too-bright person

being very desperate at the time threatened to blow up a courthouse ("threatened" is probably not correct, anyway, I could imagine somebody shouting this in desperation, even myself, not really meaning anything).

The scandal is that a 12 year old child - no matter what he/she did - gets 10 years in state custody. A child is a child and no grown up who can check the consequences of something he does.

I do not like everything about our law system but at least in Germany nobody under 16 is considered to be a legal person. In this case the parents would have to pay for the damage and that would be it. From 16 to 18 youngsters can be put in detention but a "youngsters law" applies. They aren't sentenced like grown ups yet.

I sure would hate to live in the land of the free.

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[LisaL]

23. I am sorry, if you find yourself shouting things like that in public,

you might end up in prison, whether you mean it or not.

[Kraklen]

28. With asshole racists judges like that, I'm sure one could.

But hell, I wouldn't convict if I were on the jury. Hell, I would sympathize if she'd gone for the bailiff's gun.

[neweurope]

32. So would I. Knowing they take your child away must be terrible.

In Germany I would be punished for saying that, too, but not hard at all. Nobody would consider it a "threat". They'd just say I didn't respect the judge and the court because of my shouting.

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[Kraklen]

33. The kid's life is over.

What's a twenty two year old going to do when they get out of prison since being twelve?

[neweurope]

36. Yes, exactly. We know what'll happen... drugs, probably

prostitution, maybe theft and the like. A wasted life AND a real threat to society. For having taken a joy ride. Great system, really, and so logical...


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[Kraklen]

37. Minimum wage job.

Permanent underclass.

[neweurope]

40. Yes, if all goes well that will be it. And she'll have children who...

Great system.














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[Kraklen]

41. The kids, I'm sure, will be perfectly normal kids.

Hopefully the society will be better by then.

One can dream.

[neweurope]

43. Dream on then, my friend. You're right, without hope all is lost.

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[Rabrrrrrr]

38. Go into the military to die in another republican war,

or else get a jump start on a life of crime and living in prison, which she will surely be by age 23,

or die young as a meth addict after she gets beaten by her pimp.

I love republican compassion.

[neweurope]

42. Ah yes, especially since this compassion also helps to make

society safer. Great logic, really...

This kid is worth crying over to-night (it's night here). And Europe is being pressured and bribed (and of course we have our own assholes who wanted all of this all along) to become just like the US. It makes me freeze inside.

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[Rabrrrrrr]

44. And now with our privatized prisons (owned by republicans, of course)

it's really helpful to keep making new prisoners, because that makes the friends of the republican lawmakes all that much richer, at the expense of the taxpayer.

They won't admit that it's a form of welfare, of course, but that's pretty standard for a republican to lie through the teeth anyway.

[neweurope]

46. That's the first time I have ever thought of your prison system

- and here in Europe we think it sucks! - as your form of state welfare. It makes sense, really; it used to be like this in merry old Europe up to about 200 years ago, also.

You're right. What are we complaining of? Now the child will get regular meals, and she'll probably be given some kind of small job in detention which will teach her to be a useful member of society...

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[Rabrrrrrr]

50. Yes, but it's also corporate welfare to the republicans!

The more prisoners, the more money the republican security guard owners and prison management owners earn.

AND - those companies get the benefit of making stupendous profits off workplaces (the prisons) that tax payers build.

So te taxpayers pay to build the prisons, pay for the court time needed to convict people who aren't really criminals (especially on the war on drugs), and then the republicans get to staff the prisons with their employees, paid for by taxpayers, and make a killing.

It's a suck fucking system.

We do the same thing with the military industrial complex, too - Lockheed Martin and others make all this expensive shit, with research and development paid by the taxpayers but all patents and technology secrets held by the company (not by the US), they can sell it to other countries (our allies), and make a shitload of money, and then in time of war they jack up their prices. And sometimes they even help to create the need for wars. And then we hire companies to go in and clean up after war (like Haliburton), and well, it goes on and on.

Fucking sick.

That's why the republicans love the military so much - it's their cash cow. They don't give a shit about the people in it; they love the profits that war brings them.

[neweurope]

51. I understand and I agree. Itr's the same here of course -

it's just a matter of degree. We're trying to catch up to you, though. The German State of Hessen has just determined to have the first privately run prison... And you can bet that other states will follow.

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[LisaL]

60. At least she will make it to 22. How long do you think she was

going to last, if she already steals car at 12 years old? She was shot at 9 times by police, she is lucky she is alive (or they are bad shots).

[LisaL]

59. And if you were in London, they would blow your head off,

and say you were a bombing suspect.
:sarcasm:

[skygazer]

62. So what's your opinion on the Patriot Act?

Just out of curiosity...

[Rabrrrrrr]

25. It WAS like that here, until the republicans took charge in the 80s

And then decided that the best to start curbing adolescent crime was to try kids as adults.

I think the first case was a murder case, a 16 year old who did the murder, and the state decided to make a great show of saying "This is not acceptable, so we're trying you as an adult."

After that one passed muster, then it became a great joyful celebration of "being tough on crime" and "making the country safe for the children. We have to think of the children!!"

[neweurope]

34. Ah, I should have guessed. Making things safe for the

children... which is why police takes three-year-olds from school for having brought scissors, which is why a four-year old who kisses his little friend in school is now officially a "sex offender". Jesus. Terrible to grow up with all these restrictions ("the land of the free"), terrible to be a parent in a country where you have to watch your child his every step...

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[MADem]

27. The article didn't say she would serve with adults

...just "state custody." She'll probably do half the time in juvvie and the rest in a halfway house or minimum security environment. The mother, on the other hand, needs some serious help. The kid didn't get that way on her own....

[demnan]

31. Due to the Patriot Act

underage children are routinely sentenced "as adults" that is they are given a sentence as severe as would be given an adult. I would assume that no adult would get more than a 10 year sentence for such a crime. After all, no one was killed or injured, except the girl when they shot her.

[SouthernDem2004]

66. Please. The PA has nothing to go with this. This is caused by

an overzealous judge.

[bertha katzenengel]

30. CatWoman

:hug:

[NaturalHigh]

57. There's a little more to this story.

The girl will more than likely not spend anywhere near ten years in incarceration.



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