'Three Stooges Action' (Nipple Twisting) Lands 15 Year Old Boy In Court

[matcom]

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GOLD HILL, Ore. --A 15-year-old boy who pinched and twisted the nipples of a 13-year-old has been sentenced to three days of community service for harassment.

David Thumler, 15, said the "titty-twister" was just horseplay. The mother of 13-year-old Matthew Cox counters that the incident was humiliating for her son, who saw it as an assault from an older, bigger bully.

"They're not friends," she said. "If he was my son's friend, it would be a different thing," said Bobby Cox.

In addition to the community service, Thumler has been ordered to pay a $67 fine and the misdemeanor has been placed on his permanent record. He can request to have it removed when he turns 18.

Ken Chapman, a Jackson County juvenile probation supervisor, said Oregon law defines physical harassment as "offensive physical touching."

That includes such adolescent antics as "wet-willies," "wedgies," "swirlies," "noogies" and all other forms of "Three Stooges" behavior, Chapman said.

According to David, the two boys were in line at a local deli when Matthew jokingly made an embarrassing remark to the female clerk about David. In retaliation, David counterattacked with the "titty-twister," the 15-year-old said.

"It's a thing of camaraderie," David said. "If he's going to assume our friendship is on that level, then so am I."

A lawyer hired by the 15-year-old's family called the juvenile court's actions "Orwellian."

"They call this 'baby assault,'" said Michael Kellington, a criminal defense attorney in Medford, hired by the family.

Even Bobby Cox said she was surprised to hear that her husbands' call to Gold Hill police resulted in court time for the boy. "Nobody informed me it would be a full-blown trial," she said.

According to Kellington, the incident was blown out of proportion in part because David's mother refused to let him show up for an initial hearing in juvenile court. Christine Alford, David's mother, said she did not let her son attend the hearing because she had seen photos of teenagers in handcuffs on the county's Web site.

Kellington said that Alford's refusal to let David go upped the ante and brought down "unfair, Draconian measures" upon her son. What should have been a discussion between first-time-offender and a representative of the juvenile justice system became a court trial.

"The mom is understandably fearful," said Kellington. "You shouldn't retaliate for the decision of a parent upon the child."

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2005/08/07/three_stooges_action_lands_boy_in_court?mode=PF

[In_The_Wind]

1. Good!

Children should learn to respect each other & play nicely!

[matcom]

2. right. if they don't

they should go before a judge :eyes:

[In_The_Wind]

3. they should learn kindness at home

However, if the parents can't raise children to be respectful ... somebody should wake them the hell up.


Bullies should be stopped! However, it is too bad it wasn't handled without all this notoriety ... but who knows what this type of behavior could escalate to in the future ~ it's a known fact that violence against others usually becomes worse as time goes on.

[matcom]

4. kids are going to be kids

hauling them before a judge for 'nipple twisting' isn't going to solve any problem IMHO

what happened to parent's "parenting"?

[In_The_Wind]

5. THAT is why I said "they should learn kindness at home".

And just maybe it WILL solve a problem because now the parents DO have to become involved with improving their son's behavior.

I would venture a guess that mom and dad are to blame for their son's attitude otherwise he wouldn't have acted in an aggressive manner in the first place.

[matcom]

6. so, the kid DESERVES a PERMANENT RECORD for a titty-twist?

:eyes:

[In_The_Wind]

7. It can be expunged if the kid can stay out of trouble for 3 years.

It's not a permanent record but it will be a permanent reminder to think before you act with violence toward another.

[matcom]

8. "mommy! Timmy kicked me in the shin!"

That's it. I'm calling the cops!

:eyes:

[In_The_Wind]

9. matcom ~ I'm against violence and people treating each other with cruelty.

At 15 it's past the time that a child should have learned self control.

I did agree with you that this should have been taken care of at home. The parents of both boys should have been able to work things out without a court hearing.













BTW ~ good Monday morning matcom :hug:

[matcom]

11. 15 isn't past time

kids will be kids. always have and always will. i wish the courts would simply refuse these frivolous cases. throw them out and shit, even FINE parents who try and bring these cases for being idiots.

i'll wager to bet you that most of these cases brought to the courts are because the PARENTS don't like each other. maybe Timmy's parents keep a shitty yard or Susie's parents drive too fast in the neighborhood.














and good morning to you too :hug:

[In_The_Wind]

15. I believe NOW you're onto the real truth of THIS problem! I totally agree!

Parents SHOULD BE held responsible for their children's actions. If a child causes damage that has a monetary value ... the parents have to foot the bill for the repairs.


I think you would win your wager that it's problems of some kind between the parents ... too bad when children learn how to be mean at home. We are supposed to teach our children well ... some people should NEVER have children!



And ~ yes children will be children.


But I was one of the kids that every one picked on ... my stepmothers dressed me funny & my parents were alcoholics so I know what it's like to be bullied. AND I know the very big chip that I had on my shoulder because of it.

[VelmaD]

10. The real lesson here boys and girls...

is when you are summoned to appear before a judge...SHOW UP. We never would have heard about this if the parents would have had that kid down at the courthouse the first time they were ordered to appear for a hearing. Most judges do not take kindly to being stood up.

[henslee]

12. I thought "tennessee tittie twisters" were a right of passage along with

purple nurples, sharkies, dead-legs and having your face get farted on when you were sleeping.

[matcom]

13. now that will get you 3-5 in the big house

and don't even THINK of snapping that towel in the locker room!

you could get the CHAIR for THAT mister

[sniffa]

14. if it stops the rash of tittie-twisters

then, i'm aLL for it.