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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:24 AM
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Supercuts Sued For Not Letting Workers Speak Spanish
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Some Chicago businesses post "Se Habla Espanol" signs to boast about their Spanish-speaking employees.

But two hair stylists said in a federal lawsuit Thursday that their former bosses at Supercuts posted a different sign:

"Speaking a language other than English is not only disrespectful, it's also prohibited."

Stylists say the notice was put up in 2003, directed at employees as Supercuts managers allegedly barred them from speaking Spanish anywhere at work -- including in the break room or other places outside the earshot of customers.

Supercuts says there is no such ban.

"We absolutely, vehemently deny the allegations and believe the evidence will show otherwise," attorney Davi Hirsch said Thursday.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-supercuts12.html
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:35 AM
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1. Time to pick an official national language
Before we have a new one lumped on us.

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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:37 AM
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2. .
:popcorn:
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:42 AM
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4. hehehe yep you are right to watch this post
The flames are comming.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 AM
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8. so you did it on purppose?
:shrug:
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 AM
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13. To a degree yes and to a degree no
See if I were to say move to Argentina I'd expect to learn Spanish and assimilate into their society....it'd only be right since I am moving into a pre-exsisting society.

And visa versa.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:48 AM
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14. should we pick a national religion too, then?
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:51 AM
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20. Yep
Flying Spaghetti Monsterism!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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27. how about Islam?
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:55 AM
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The Flying Spaghetti Monster would not be happy with that.
Reach out for his noodly appendage and be delivered my son. Arggghhh!

Google him and read.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:57 AM
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36. why aren't you in crawford with Cindy Sheehan right now?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:17 AM
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61. Mom, would you stop following me and my friends around?
:rofl:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:19 AM
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62. don't confuse me with your mother just because i'm always with her
:silly:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:20 AM
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64. Shouldn't you and my mom be in Crawford with Cindy Sheehan?
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:21 AM by Heidi
Just askin. :silly:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:22 AM
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66. where do you think i'm posting from? Cindy says "hello"
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:28 AM
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70. If that maniac ever comes out to talk with Cindy . . .
please shield my mother's eyes from the sight of the beast, lest she turn to stone, forcing me to return home to cook for dad. :rofl:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:50 AM
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18. All true, and they probably do speak english no?
If you moved to Argentina would you start speaking spanish to your family as well and english speaking friends as well?
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:58 AM
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39. Not on the street and at work no?
What would it matter what I spoke at home?
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:40 AM
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80. So you would refrain yourself from speaking your first language
to another person with the same first language on the street or in general conversation at work?

Yeah... not bloody likely...

That would be just pointless. Why couldn't people speak whatever language they want? Refraining them form doing so is just blatant racism.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:50 AM
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19. We are a country that accepts people from everywhere, no matter
what nationality, creed, or skin tone. How can you do that by making people speak a certain language?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:02 AM
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44. Because they weren't formed the way we were.
We were made to bring in people from everywhere - not like all the countries you mentioned.
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:35 AM
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77. Made to?
That just kinda happened and the biggest part of it only lasted for 40 years. And that was when we had lightly populated areas that were open for development.

I guess you haven't noticed the immigration in the countries I pointed out.

France has the biggest Muslim population outside of the middle east barring our own. Britian used to own damn near everything and has a very culturally mixed immigrant population spanning the globe. Germany has more Turk immigrants than any other country in Europe.

So you were saying?
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:50 AM
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94. A national language is not a big deal
But you were earlier on saying that they shouldn't be allowed to speak their language on the street and at work. That's just plain wrong.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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28. By that logic we should be speaking some *Native American* tongue.
They were here first, you know.

It's at times like these when I wish they'd had
a stricter immigration policy too.
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:02 AM
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43. You are right
And as I said in another psot I'd be speaking my actual native language Chrokee. As do I because I have too many neighbors that can't speak english and that's their regular language.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:41 AM
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3. I'd like to pick Icelandic.
Sounds like a cool language to learn.

Who's with me?!? I'm picking Icelandic as an official national language! Woooo!
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 AM
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7. Eh nah
Too many weird dots and circles over the letters makes me dizzy.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:44 AM
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How about I pick Redneck?
It's similar to English, only the spelling is different.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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22. apparently he already speaks redneck
:eyes:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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26. Yeeeee-fuckin'-Haw!
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 AM
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33. Look! He can check profiles!
w00t!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:03 AM
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:50 AM
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95. That was kind of funny. I state the city in my profile, too.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 11:50 AM by kick-ass-bob
If you are still reading, you can grab a map.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:57 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:54 AM
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:55 AM
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31. actually, i'm not originally from here
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 AM by matcom
thus, no accent. thanks for calling me elite though. i do consider myself a little smarter because i took the time to learn another language.

makes it REAL fun when i vacation in Mexico as well
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:05 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:06 AM
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48. i didn't know that "ignorant shithead" was a dialect of english?
:shrug:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:07 AM
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50. only in Crawford Texas
this poster is obviously well traveled
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:36 AM
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78. Actually I prefer New Hampshire.
To be exact the Hanover area....very pretty in the fall.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:19 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:21 AM
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65. please stop acting as if you have the intellectual capability for any
foresight whatsoever. you acted ignorant, and people called you ignorant. there are many southern DUers on here who are just as respected and intelligent as the rest of the community, and they get afforded respect. however, respect has to be earned, and, in this community, it usually comes through demonstrating some form of wit or intelligence, areas in which you are sorely lacking...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:42 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:48 AM
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86. haha, i got you. i actually joined DU 3 years ago knowing that you
were going to start posting here this year, so, as an experiment, i waited, built up my credibility as a longtime poster, and then, when you started posting in this whole thread, saw my brilliant plan come to fruition. you think that you're the puppetmaster in this whole thing, but your strings are being pulled by someone else. isn't it time for you to take a shower yet?
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:57 AM
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87. have a slice of pizza; i'll be having one for my fallen comrade
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 AM
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34. have you ever been here? the "beans" reference would be amusing
if it weren't so goddamned ignorant. isn't it time for you to go upstairs for breakfast yet? all of this basement air can't be good for you; i think your mom is calling you (or maybe me, who knows?).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:12 AM
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55. your quite wrong about that
you were attacked for being totally ignorant. your location just confirms stereotypes. i'm happy to report that other DUers in your same location have risen above such generalities.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:23 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:24 AM
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68. redneck is not becomming (sic) any century's racial slur
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:24 AM by StopTheMorans
as "redneck" is not a racial slur. noone is holding you down or judging you for your way of life, they are judging you for your ignorant beliefs.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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84. defend MYSELF?
i'm not the one spewing "national language" rhetoric. i have nothing to defend.

you, on the other hand, DO need to defend yourself for the "speak english or leave" attitude :eyes:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:14 AM
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56. i don't believe for a second (from your posting history, poor grammar,
and flawed inferences) that you have the necessary thought processes to plan that far ahead, so i'm not buying it. it was a nice little ex post facto attempt at trying to make yourself not look like so much of an ass though, but alas, you're not arguing with morans here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:30 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:31 AM
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76. redneck is not a racial epithet, so stop saying that
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:43 AM
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83. So you are saying that you intentionally started a flame war?
And, not everyone from the north is an "asshole" - sweeping generalizations aren't really very cool.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:57 AM
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37. Wow. I was just in Boston and didn't
notice any of that.
:shrug:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:58 AM
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38. you just weren't looking hard enough
you'll find it most prominent when the Irish and Italians are in a rumble
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:12 AM
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:15 AM
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58. holy shit are you ignorant. where are your friends in Boston?
does your Mom let you make long-distance calls to Boston, or do you have to e-mail them?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:16 AM
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60. mom pulled the plug on the phone calls
too many 900 number calls. last bill was OUTRAGEOUS
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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23. You can't
That messed up accent they have in Chicago is it's own language.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:44 AM
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10. yes, it's time to encourage xenophobia and nationalism; we don't have
enough hatred and right-wing philosophy in this country already. :popcorn:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:16 AM
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:26 AM
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69. Yeah?
"No I just wanted to see how many ppl from a northern state or city would attack me and make light of where I was from or use the right wing discription for me."

Why would you do such a thing?
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:31 AM
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75. Maybe it was just another experiment?
Like that idjit in GD a couple of weeks back. :eyes:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:37 AM
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79. That's my guess.
He's probably sitting in from of the computer wearing a Hot Pocket-stained lab coat.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:41 AM
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92. Hot Pocket?
You're being generous.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:49 AM
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16. We have two over here in Canada
And it's working pretty well, for the most part.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 AM
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5. Good, I hope they pay heavily if guilty
I am sick of the English-only shitheads.
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:44 AM
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9. Speak spanish do ye?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:47 AM
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12. Not fluently, but it has as much right to be spoken as
English, and in over half this country a better claim than English.
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:50 AM
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17. Half?
Well since we've been invaded by illegal aliens to such a degree here in the south I guess you are right. And soon the NE will have to learn it as well since their illegal alien population has gone up by 300% recently eh? I don't think I should have to learn a new language...infact in my area we should all have to know Cherokee hows that one for ya?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:51 AM
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21. you should WANT to learn a new language
its uplifting, really.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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25. It's amazing how ignorant Americans can be.
Most Europeans know many languages, not just their own and not just English.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:53 AM
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29. yup. one of the MANY reasons i love Europe so
that and there is no Alabama there
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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24. would you be in favor of us all learning cherokee? with your juvenile
logic, the right thing to do is to learn the dominant language (i.e. you support English even though it is not the "native" language of this continent), and, since spanish-speakers will become the majority, i guess it only makes sense to convert, right? :shrug:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 AM
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32. That'd be expensive, I bet.
Then we should change place names from the original, too? San Antonio, Baton Rouge, Minneapolis...

That'd be expensive, I bet.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 AM
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6. Que?
¿Qué el español de discurso tiene que hacer con conseguir un corte de pelo?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:45 AM
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:48 AM
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15. No brain either I see.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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40. damn, i missed it
x(
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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41. It was weak.
Trust me.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:03 AM
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46. I was gonna say something about his wife, mother, or sister...
... having it.

But, I'm too O8) for that kind of talk.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:06 AM
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49. shouldn't diss a woman who isn't here to defend herself
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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53. Wouldn't be right.
Would it.

;)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:15 AM
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57. That's not what your mother said!
:hide:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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85. My mother said she was hungry...
For a pizza maybe?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:28 AM
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71. I LOVE watching Telemundo, until the women open their mouths
:hide:

No, really, it's true. Spanish is the most grating noise-pollution in the history of the world.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:30 AM
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72. You obviously have never been
in a room full of people speaking Swiss-German, then.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:41 AM
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81. I LOVE German!
In fact, I love it so much that after the 9/11 attack I was being driven by a friend to pick up his wife, and there was a roadside candle vigil going on.

I leaned out the window and started yelling some bullshit faux German at them, the look on their stupid faces was fucking priceless!

Ich bin nein ungenflauher! Eich mien zie pantergarten giestmatch! and on, and on
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:30 AM
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73. I just watch it with the sound turned off.
They look like they're having so much fun.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:59 AM
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88. heh heh heh.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:05 AM
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89. ....Poorly
:rofl:
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:33 AM
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90. I'm glad I finsihed my popcorn
right on time!

:bounce:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:38 AM
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91. Some threads are like flypaper, aren't they?
:D
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:43 AM
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93. I should have sued them for the handfull of shitty haircuts they gave me.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 01:09 AM
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96. Locking
Flamefest
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