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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:47 PM
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french/quebecois/cajun american DUers check in
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 02:11 PM by sniffa
or actuaL french and quebecois DUers as weLL.

how do you feeL about french bashing?
how do you respond to it onLine and reaL time?

normaLLy, i'm not personaLLy offended as i think it's absurd. at most, i roLL my eyes.
if it's someone i don't care for, i'LL respond with an american joke (since it's usuaLLy the freeper types).
if it escaLates, then i get personaL and hit beLow the beLt.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:49 PM
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1. It doesn't bother me.
I consider the source.

:hi:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:53 PM
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3. very true
i suppose, i just get annoyed in the same way i get annoyed when some drunk teLLs me the same stupid joke/story 5 times in a night.

:hi:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:52 PM
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2. As a Québécois
The French-Bashing sor of hits a sensitive note. But then we Québécois and the French sort of enjoy making fun of eachother as well. :)

And considering the source of most of the French-Bashing, I just file it under ridiculous.
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Trigger Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:00 PM
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4. It pisses me off.
But then I'm a sensitive-type person. :)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:05 PM
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6. doh - i forgot to incLude cajuns
i know how you feeL.. i'm wicked sensitive. :P
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:03 PM
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5. I just have a Franco-American background.
Occasionally my surname attracts sneers, but its just idiots I can ignore.

One thing I have wondered about is if your grandparent was a native of Quebec/Canada, is there any right of return or similar mechanism?

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:08 PM
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10. I truly don't know.
The information might be available either on the immgration Canada or the Immagration Québec websites
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:29 PM
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39. Only if your MOTHER was a native Canadian can you get citizenship
pretty automatically. My brother and I did it in 2003. All we had to do was produce Mom's birth certificate, our birth certificates, and fill out the forms on the imm website. The rules change often, though, and this method may have changed. Look on the Canadian immigration website for the most up to date stuff. That's how we found out.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:05 PM
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7. Je ne suis pas tracassé
Le peuple qui n'aiment pas les Français est les personnes ignorantes. Enfer supérieur avec lui ! :hi:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:06 PM
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8. what she said. nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:10 PM
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13. ;)
:hug:

:loveya:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:06 PM
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9. oui
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 02:07 PM by sniffa
pLitte

i don't don't know too many french words. :shrug:

the above word was one of the onLy ones i Learned (i'm pretty sure i speLLed it wrong) from my nana.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:09 PM
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11. I basically said...
That people who bash the French are people who are ignorant!

The I said: To Hell with them!

Enfer supérieur avec lui !

:hi:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:10 PM
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14. That's not quite right as a translation
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 02:11 PM by Bassic
"Qu'ils aillent au diable!" would be more accurate.

:)
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:37 PM
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24. I try....
I don't write it very often, or speak it for that matter! :)
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:14 AM
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42. And you seem to do it quite well
Just thought I'd help you out a bit this one. ;)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:12 PM
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16. D'accord.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
28. your Nana? that's so fucking cute.....
i'm going to pinch your cheeks!
*mwah!*
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:24 PM
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38. i am adorabLe aren't i?
:blush:

mwah to you babe! :loveya:

my nana had a fiLthy french mouth (if you recognized the one french word i Learned from her).
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:09 PM
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12. Enfer supérieur?
Je n'ai jamais entendu cette expression, mais qu'importe! Qu'ils y brûlent tous ;)

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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:12 PM
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17. ....
Ahhh, vous n'avez jamais entendu cette expression ? Nous apprenons beaucoup de choses ici sur du, pas nous ?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:05 AM
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45. Oui, ce que vous dites est tres vrai!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:11 PM
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15. My New Orleans born hubby has a French name that no one can pronounce
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 02:14 PM by CottonBear
properly. :( How annoying. His middle name is even more difficult to pronounce for most Murikans. His German last name is, fortunately, easier to pronounce.

He finds it very annoying that the right wingers bash the French without realizing that the French helped us achieve nationhood, gave us the Statue of Liberty and most importantly sold us the land that includes New Orleans, one of the greatest cities on the planet! :)

edit: He's not a Cajun but rather is a Creole since his family came directly from the Bordeaux region in France and not by way of Canada.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:13 PM
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18. i'm sort of Lucky
most peopLe can't pronounce my name (it's humorous when teLemarketers caLL), but my name is somewhat popuLar in new engLand so it's not as bad as it couLd be. :hi:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:23 PM
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19. That's a good way to know that a telemarketer is on the line!
Poor Mr. CottonBear's name is not at all common in Georgia. It gets mangled daily! He goes by several nicknames and has even, on occasion, resorted to spelling his first name phonetically!

:hi: Bonjour!
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Trigger Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:26 PM
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20. Yeah, my last name is very
common in south Louisiana, but in Mass no one can pronounce it. It's pretty funny. And no telemarketers ever got it right. That's when I know to tell them they got the wrong number or to hang up. :)
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:21 PM
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31. Ah, you must be a Michaud!
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 03:31 PM by Love Bug
My father's people are all Michauds originally from the Montreal area. My dad was the only one to marry a "yankee" and become a US citizen. And yep, only Canucks or those with a knowedge of French can pronounce it.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:04 PM
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37. I can't figure out why noone can pronouce my simple German name
I was gonna post it earlier, lets just say is a common name on the Cote des Allemandes and most people mangle it to the opposite of True.

I just donn't get it. Five letters. Follows common rules for handling vowels in English.

It's funnier than hell (and helpful with the telemarketers).

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Trigger Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:59 PM
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26. Huh. I just looked up the definition of Creole
and, contrary to my belief it was mostly persons of mixed race, etc., it can mean white people whose desendants came from France directly. That would include me. I'm a Creole. I can't believe I didn't realize this before. Coming from a Cajun area, where white peopel with French last names call themselves Cajun, I called myself one too. But my family comes from Poirrers france
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:18 PM
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27. See! You learn something new each and every day on DU!
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 03:18 PM by CottonBear
I read that interesting fact about Creoles and Cajuns while visiting my in-laws in New Orleans.

Congratulations: you're a Creole! :party: :) :party: :) :party: :)
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Trigger Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:21 PM
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30. Yeah, a BIG new fact.
I'm gonna have to tell my family about this. Their heads will explode. :silly:

DU is the best!! Thanks for enlightening me!!

:hi:
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:20 PM
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29. They also used Creole
in Mexico to mean white people from Spain. So apparently there are several different meanings.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:25 PM
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32. They won't accept that definition on N'wawlins
It's definitely taken to mean someone of mixed African and European heritage.

Anwwho, I'm an Acadian-German-various mutt. French was my father's first language in Thibodeaux, but when he moved up to N'wawlins, the nuns would be him in the classroom if he spokes his "ignorant French", and the kids would beat you on the playground for the same reason.

As a result. I don't know more than is ncessary to order. I can say "je suis un vrais acadien du Louisiana, mai je ne parle pas francais" in a wonderful accent, however, courtesy of on elective semester of French.

I'm looking forward to celebrating the tri-centenial of my family in Louisiana in about twenty years.

While I'm part of the Cote des Allemandes part of Louisiana culture, the French bashing pisses me off to no end.
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Trigger Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:31 PM
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33. Yes, see I thought I wasn't crazy.
In Lafayette, Creoles are African-European types too. Very different from the apparent official definitions of Creole.

French was my grandparents' first language in Eunice. Mais, yeah! They had the whole "beat it outta ya" by nuns too. My parents' generation understands French but can't speak it and I don't really know much of it at all, even though I took it for years in school. But there is a bright spot in my hometown; elementary schools are doing French immersion. Seven years olds can speak French as well as my 86 year old Paw Paw. :)
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Ryano42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:31 PM
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21. Umm...I am German/Irish...
But if you guys start cooking anything would please let me know? Even poutine from the Quebec folks?

I think all of your guys' cuisine absolutely ROCKS. :9

I could bring some BEER...we do that. :)
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:58 PM
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34. German/Irish/African
are the main (non-French) components of N'wawlins.

So, you'd fit right in. Bring some Abita Amber.

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:35 PM
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22. Cajun by marriage.
When I hear somebone running down the French I usually just whup ass and ask questions later.
Sometimes I don't even ask questions.
If I can't handle it, Miz t.'s brothers can.
I'm glad I married her, so they won't whup MY ass.
They generally springloaded to the whup-ass mode.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:31 PM
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40. LOL!
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:36 PM
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23. I'm none of those
so I'll skip this thread.
Not checking in here.

Except I think French bashing shows the basher has a small intellect and a small peepee as well. It's very stupid. most of the English we use comes from French. English was only 2000 words until the French took over England for a couple hundred years.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:38 PM
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25. It pisses me off.
I generally try not to engage France-bashers IRL, but when I do I tell them that they have the French to thank for bailing their Anglo ancestors' asses out in the Revolution.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:00 PM
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35. I live on the outer edge of Cajun country
So have had a good amount of exposure to that interesting culture. As far as I know I have little if any French blood in me, though.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:02 PM
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36. Je m'en fous completement
Les francais et canadiens-francais ne s'entendent pas particulierement bien.

Translation: I blow it off completely. French-Canadians don't get along particularly well with the French.

:P
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:43 PM
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41. I have a French last name and am of Huguenot descent
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 04:43 PM by Momgonepostal
I wouldn't say French bashing sends me into a tizzy, but it is annoying. Most of the people who say this kind of thing are knuckle dragging freeper types who I don't take very seriously anyway.

The whole thing is hard for me to relate to because I think ethnic and racial slurs are very rude and distasteful. Of course when you say that you're accused of being PC. :eyes:

Even more ridiculous is that the French appear to have been right about the Iraqi war, but stupid people still continue with the French cracks.

The "freedom fries" thing is just stupid beyond belief.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:25 AM
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43. I am 1/8 French.
I am 12.5% pissed off about it.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:59 AM
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44. Je suis Britannique, mais je parle Francais un peu
J'ai commencé apprendre Francais récemment
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:09 AM
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46. The wife is from VT about 5 miles from Quebec, as for Francophone
bashing she usually responds with a pretty mean right cross, family full of farmers and puck heads...go figure.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:41 AM
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47. none o'the above...but native of Louisiana......
...,lived here all my life in fact and was pissed the fuck off at all the French bashing...especially when it was time to celebrate the Louisiana Purchase and were snubbed by * when he was asked to be present at some of the events scheduled...heh..well I was glad that asswipe didn't visit here actually but the reason behind their decision not to was fuckin' pathetic. :eyes:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:48 AM
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48. i'm scots/german but i'll check in for hubby...
between all the blood in his veins he's probably 5pts french :thumbsup: "a true american mutt" in his words, oh, with a pint of swiss blood for the Heidi Factor
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