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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:15 PM
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Who is OU’s victim in the Sugar Bowl?


USC?
OSU?
LSU?

Maybe the only other unbeaten TCU?

What will the score be on each of those match-ups?
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:18 PM
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1. It's too early to tell, but it won't be
TCU.

Personally, I hope it is LSU (or maybe not with the way OU is playing).

Who do you think OU would most fear playing right now?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:21 PM
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2. OU may be unbeatable
Don't think they fear anybody. Miami looked tough last year. This team is way tougher. Right now, may be the best I've ever seen. Got to play the games, though. USC ought to be able to win out in a weak Pac-10. Winner of Michigan-Ohio State to Rose; loser to Fiesta (unless Purdue shocks the world this Saturday).
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:27 PM
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7. OU has looked good, but they almost
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 12:29 PM by GumboYaYa
fell to a mediocre Bama team and there have been a few games where they struggled early. I'm not ready to declare them the greatest team ever, yet.

I have not seen USC play a whole game yet, so I have no good basis for judging them. From what I have seen of them, I saw amazing team speed on defense. A good defense can always keep you in a game. If USC can hang close to OU, the pressure could get to OU.

LSU has also been playing some great football and has an amazing defense. If LSU made it to the Sugar Bowl, it would essentially be a home-field for them. The thought of tens of thousands drunk Cajuns yelling for the Tigers, should cause OU to pull for LSU's opponents the next few weeks.

I have been extremely underwhelmed by OSU's performance this year. I have seen several games where they played and IMO they do not have the team speed to hang with OU, USC, and LSU. I bet OU is licking their chops for a chance at OSU.

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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:54 PM
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12. The best team you've ever seen?
Did you see the '95 cornhuskers?
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:21 PM
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3. Either Ohio State or Michigan.
Both are dangerous because neither has played their best football yet.

Neither is in OU's class. Nobody is in OU's class.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:22 PM
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4. GO SOONERS!!!!
Another 77 - 0 victory maybe???
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:23 PM
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5. Thus far...
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 12:24 PM by AWD
OSU and USC are the only two teams thatcan get in on their own. It'll be VERRRRRY close if they both win out. LSU needs both to lose, and TCU is already declared out. They can't get in, because a series of teams need to lose, and the math adds up that Ohio State and Michigan need to lose twice...and they play each other, rendering that impossible.

My own numbers show this;
-If USC, OSU and LSU all win out, USC goes no matter what.
-If OSU and USC both win out and LSU loses once, it's going to be down to tenths-of-a-point.
-If USC and OSU win out, LSU loses once and Washington State loses once, Ohio State goes.

But I'd like to point out that MANY experts declared Miami the winner by at least 2 touchdowns last year.

Do not count those chickens yet.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:26 PM
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6. If TCU stays unbeaten and doesn't get there...
And, yes, I KNOW the argument about their "relative strength-of-schedule" and all that...but, if they don't get to face Oklahoma, it won't bode well for the BCS continuing in its current form without Congress--even THIS Congress :eyes: --intervening in the process. (Funny how the same Repubs in Congress who claim monopolistic ownership of radio and TV stations by Cheap Channel isn't illegal are adamant that the NCAA and CFA not allowing the Mountain West Conference, the WAC, and Conference USA in the BCS constitutes a monopoly. :eyes: )

Having said that, if Southern Cal wins out--and I feel pretty sure that Oklahoma will do so--those two will meet in the Sugar Bowl. While it will be the actual #1 v. #2, hopefully, it will also force the aforementioned powers-that-be to open the BCS up to ALL the Division 1-A conferences, as all of their champions deserve a shot at the "process" of bowls establishing the top ten finishers. After all, if they still want to resist a Div. 1-A playoff, fairness in the BCS is the only "other" way to do it!

B-)
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:29 PM
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8. It's not just "relative SOS"...
....TCU has the 95th hardest schedule. More than half the teams in Division 1-A could go unbeaten with that schedule.

If Akron U scheduled Kent State 11 times and won all 11, do they deserve to play for the National Championship?

Weak divisions should not be rewarded for being weak.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:31 PM
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9. Totally agree.
Switch the schedules of Florida, Michigan State, Missouri or any other number of teams with TCU's schedule and TCU is lucky to have a winning record. All those other teams would be undefeated with TCU's schedule.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:32 PM
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10. Agreed. TCU should not go
Sorry, TCU fans. Can't send someone with that weak a schedule.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:44 PM
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11. Ohio University made the Sugar Bowl??!!
WOO HOO!!!!




Hey, MY OU is 200 years old!! how old is the ou in Oklahoma??
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:55 PM
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13. My heart tells me LSU, but my head says USC.
I think OSU will lose to either Michigan or Purdue.

Being an LSU fan, I hope LSU won't lose again, but looking at their schedule, it's going to be tough (expecially with the SEC Championship Game). And even then, they'd have to leapfrog USC and/or OSU.

If LSU does win out, however, including the SEC Championship against a likely Top 5 team, they'll be on a roll. Four more tough wins might be enough to move them up enough to leapfrog USC (though I don't think it would happen if OSU beats Purdue and Michigan). Their SOS would improve, as would their standing in the eyes of both the computer polls and the poll voters.

But it all boils down to winning the remaining games, starting with Alabama this weekend. Same goes for OSU and USC. Even a lowly Arizona is capable of beating a USC on any given day. The annals of college football are filled with teams who got close.
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Jivenwail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:07 PM
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14. The only team that deserves to be there
The current NATIONAL CHAMPS


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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:08 PM
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15. Does it matter?
I think this is the year Stoops gets number two.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:57 PM
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16. I would think it would be USC, however,
last night I was reading on a sports board where there is an outside chance it could be Texas????. I not quite sure how that would be possible, however, I wouldn't think Texas would relish the thought.

As far as the Sooners are concerned, this might not be the best team that OU has fielded. The 74 Sooners had 13 All-Americans, 16 players drafted and won a NC. Leroy Selmon, NFL Hall of Fame was DE on this team.

Not sure if any of you watched the OU - Texas A&M game, but there was a comment by an ESPN guy that said OU ran up the score. I just heard Stoops weekly news conference and he mentioned that many of the defensive starters only got 20 snaps the entire game. 20 snaps is normally not even a half. A&M was going 3 and out the entire game so the defense barely got any playing time. Jason White only played the first half, OU took a knee on first down on the 3 yard line with 8 minutes to go, then thought that was too obvious, so they told the team to go half speed and not really try and block(keep in mind, the scout team played most of the fourth quarter). Futhermore, they let the clock run the majority of the fourth quarter, except when they was a change of possesioin. It certainly doesn't sound like Stoops was trying to run up the score.
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